The Universal Objective Justification advocates would like everyone to believe they are all grace. Ponder the
ridiculous blabber in the E. Preuss quotation in the graphic. Jack Cascione had that on his website, where I kelmed it, until it began appearing on this blog. Suddenly, that wonderful UOJ essay by Robert Preus disappeared faster than a case of Jim Beam at a COP meeting.
Preuss declared that everyone is forgiven before birth - certainly a supersaturation of grace. And where is the Word of God in this? Nowhere to be found. Faith means believing that this absurdity is true. Even then, faith is mocked because there is really no content to faith when the Promises arrive before the Word or faith.
Therefore, the UOJ fanatics have nothing to offer but works. They are the greatest. Ask them. No, do not bother. They will fill in all the details. They will name their relatives and wait for a gasp of approval. They will point to their glorious achievements for Holy Mother Synod. They will harshly condemn anyone who disagrees with them as heretics, divisive, lazy, and "hurting the synod."
That is also why the UOJ synods have become bi-sectsual. They have no Gospel and cannot explain the simplest concepts of the Bible to their victims. They take shelter in the Babtist faith. Yes, that is a great irony. They spend a lot of time condemning everyone else for unionism, but they salivate at the thought of Babtists teaching them evangelism.
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| Parlow, Jeske, Kelm, Patterson. WELS leaders of Enthusiasm - UOJ and Church Growth. |
Newly elected DP Patterson, one of the jelly-tele-tubbies of WELS, organized a group of church workers to attend the Exponential gathering in Orlando, Florida. My informant told me that five went with Team Patterson, but doubtless many others from WELS and Missouri also attended. The ELS does some of it, too, while abhorring WELS participation.
Here is a link to the 2012 Exponential.
Eight WELS workers went to the Andy Stanley Babtist worship festival - Drive. I linked the spontaneous, but organized dance planned for 2009. It was awesome!
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| Not a Photoshop - Andy Stanley explaining about two men being the new Babtist marriage style. I think Andy is profoundly damaged by something in his family or his life. |
Andy is cooking one up for 2013 too. The LCMS and WELS COPs should meet there - and be honest about it.
Because they have short-circuited the Means of Grace, the SynConference leaders have to substitute something else. Church Growth is always emitting some new fad, so those leaders are a constant source of inspiration for the sterile minds of Walther's heirs.
They are paying the Pied Pipers of Pietism to lead their members into Enthusiasm, hatred of the liturgy, and eventual Unitarian-Universalism. That is where Robert Schuller, Founder of Church Growth, took his congregation. When he was done with them, they accepted non-Christians as featured speakers at the Crystal Cathedral. And how could anyone tell the difference?
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LPC has left a new comment on your post "UOJ Is Not All Grace But All Works. Why WELS, ELS,...":
Hang on isn't Kelming the same as McCaining it?
LPC
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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "UOJ Is Not All Grace But All Works. Why WELS, ELS,...":
Embracing UOJ causes Justification by Faith to fall like a house of cards. The UOJ proponents at first try to defend it with some pretzel logic like "faith is merely the hand that accepts" or "you have already been forgiven at the Cross". The Efficacy of the Word becomes short circuited with this twisted sophistry. Just like that, they jump on the Babtist bandwagon. Besides the conferences that they attend, they want the laity to Fireproof their Marriage or a host of other guilt inducing Law pounding measures.
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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "UOJ Is Not All Grace But All Works. Why WELS, ELS,...":
I believe that one of the ways in which universal objective justification enthusiasts disrespect the Holy Spirit and his initiating and sustaining work of faith in the individual soul, is by their own limited (thinking) and words. They point out that:
"faith is merely the hand that accepts" [their common explanation]
The Holy Spirit is not at all to be regarded lightly. Nor is his work in the whole faith process "mere."
And, shall we not forget what Ephesians 2:8-9 basically says: "Grace through faith........."
In short UOJ enthusiasts end up attempting to make Holy Spirit faith in the individual soul, something which it isn't.
Nathan M. Bickel - Bay City, MI
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
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GJ - Everything they say is contrary to the Christian faith, contrary to the Scriptures, contrary to the Confessions. That is why they seek the out the Babtists - they are Gospel-starved. Some go Pentecostal, like the WELS missionaries (Taiwan) because they are Holy Spirit deprived. If they had been taught properly they would not be going after the Enthusiasts with such...ah, Enthusiasm.
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Hang on isn't Kelming the same as McCaining it?
LPC
Embracing UOJ causes Justification by Faith to fall like a house of cards. The UOJ proponents at first try to defend it with some pretzel logic like "faith is merely the hand that accepts" or "you have already been forgiven at the Cross". The Efficacy of the Word becomes short circuited with this twisted sophistry. Just vlike that, they jump on the Babtist bandwagon. Besides the conferences that they attend, they want the laity to Fireproof their marriage or a host of other guilt inducing Law pounding measures.
I believe that one of the ways in which universal objective justification enthusiasts disrespect the Holy Spirit and his initiating and sustaining work of faith in the individual soul, is by their own limited (thinking) and words. They point out that:
"faith is merely the hand that accepts" [their common explanation]
The Holy Spirit is not at all to be regarded lightly. Nor is his work in the whole faith process "mere."
And, shall we not forget what Ephesians 2:8-9 basically says: "Grace through faith........."
In short UOJ enthusiasts end up attempting to make Holy Spirit faith in the individual soul, something which it isn't.
Nathan M. Bickel - Bay City, MI
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
The universal objective justification diehards will pervert the grace of God. They have a big problem dealing with Ephesians 2:8-9. Part and parcel of their perversion is to accuse others of limiting the Atonement of Christ when they themselves limit the grace of God by not connecting His grace with the Holy Spirit's actions of creating and sustaining faith.
Instead, they desire a cheap grace that is all packaged up in the once for all sacrifice of Christ. They can't see God's grace in the Holy Spirit's action of bringing the soul to faith. [Titus 3:5 ; John 3:3-8 ; 1 Cor. 6:11]
These universalism enthusiasts don't want to admit that the Holy Spirit creates faith in whom He may. To them that is at odds with their brand of universalism teaching and preaching of forgiveness for all without being born from above by the Holy Spirit. [John 3:3-8]
When is the last time you talked with an objective justification universalist and heard him credit the Holy Spirit for His full work? It won’t happen, because they only ascribe grace with Christ and none to the Holy Spirit and His gracious work.
Nathan M. Bickel - Bay City, MI
www.thechristianmessage.org
www.moralmatters.org
I further think that while universal objective justification enthusiasts falsely accuse their opponents of limiting the Atonement, they, at the same time don't want to admit that the Holy Spirit (working with the Word) would create faith in whom He may. They can't stand the thought of some souls not coming into their come one / come all, universalist heaven. By so doing so, these universalists deny the reality of God's free moral agency gift, which is exercised by human souls to their own (soul's) eternal destruction.
Pastor Bickel,
This is an accurate assessment of those who cannot accept the fact that the Holy Spirit works only through the Means of Grace. When you point out to them that all of their efforts and programs, by themselves, will not make one believer, their response is "yeah, but .....". Without even thinking about it, they have become small m methodists. They scratch their heads wondering why the pews are not full every Sunday when the Devil's tent next door (Luther's quote) is bursting at the seams.
Their improper use of the Law becomes a treadmill for them. They are blinded to the notion that all of their planning and effort is an exercise in futility. Yet they still clamor for Law based solutions as they attempt to grow the visible church.
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