Friday, May 11, 2012

Brett Meyer Offers If Then Quotations - Rationalism in Favor of UOJ




Here are some “If – then” quotes supporting UOJ

Deutschlander:
The point of this passage is essentially the same as the point of the previous passage. Once again, notice the all-embracing, already accomplished character of the passage: the world is reconciled! Not, the world can be reconciled, or has reconciliation available to it. That reconciliation is entrusted to us in the Word. But it would be folly to speak of the reconciliation as entrusted to us, if, in point of fact, the reconciliation had not yet occurred; if prior to committing the word of reconciliation there is no reconciliation, then the word entrusted to our proclamation is a lie. And far be it from us to rend the sacred mantel cast over us in the Word, to make His Word and His Act of reconciliation of no effect until we have done something or until we have believed something.
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if the penalty has already been paid in the sacrifice of Christ, then for God not to forgive sin would be unjust; He would be demanding a second payment for the same offence.
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Buchholz:
9 This very important truth—that faith is appropriative and not causative—can be illustrated thus: A sports fan may say, “I believe that my team will win the World Series this year.” Such faith does not bring about the desired outcome. The person’s belief doesn’t cause anything to happen. In this case, the “faith” expressed is merely a hope or a wish that something will happen. Likewise, if a team wins, and a jaded, cynical fan refuses to believe it, that fan’s erroneous belief doesn’t change the reality of what happened.
Faith is simply trust. Faith must have an object, something that it holds onto. That object may or may not be real or true, but faith doesn’t make it real or true. Faith that holds onto something untrue is misplaced—no matter how sincere it may be. Christian faith appropriates and holds onto the reality of God’s justification completed in Christ. It does not cause justification or forgiveness to take place. It simply grasps God’s justification that is already a reality.
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Kurt Marquart


Marquart:
If God’s eternal foreknowledge does not forbid these millions of judicial acts, why should it forbid the one great world-embracing judicial act in the Cross and Resurrection, which is the real and objective basis for all the millions of individual “applicatory” judicial acts? Justification is by definition a judicial act.
(in the section – 5. Indefensible theses of Mr. Larry Darby)




Becker:
If all are condemned because of the sin of one man (18a), and all are justified because of the right action of one man (18b), and if all are set down as sinners through one man’s disobedience (19a), then we can certainly expect that all men will be set down as righteous through one man’s obedience (19b). If the action (described in 19b is something that takes place when a man comes to faith, then these words are not true because all do not come to faith, and while many, polloi/, are called, few, o0li/goi, are chosen. To say that “all” here means “all who come to faith” is to commit the same sin that is committed by Calvinists when they say that the “all” for whom Christ died are “all who are elect.” The “all” of 18b are the “all” of 18a and of verse 12.
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By the resurrection the sins for which he was “numbered with the transgressors” were formally declared by the Father to be completely paid for. Christ was no longer “guilty” but free from all liability to punishment. But the sins for which he had been condemned were the sins of the world, and because Christ is the substitute for all men we can say that if one was justified, the all whose substitute he was were also justified in his resurrection, just as Paul can say, “If one died for all, then were all dead” (2 Co 5:14).
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Even more significant is the Septuagint’s use of a related word, il9 asthr& ion, as a translation for trep%ok@,a mercy seat. The mercy seat was the place where an atonement was made for the sins of the people by the blood that was sprinkled there by the high priest. The word for atonement is rp%uk@,i which is derived from rpak@ f which basically means “to cover.” Thus when the blood was sprinkled on the mercy-seat a “covering” was made by which the sins of the people were hidden from the eyes of an angry God. While it is not necessary to make our
case, I am convinced that if John had spoken in Hebrew he would have said that Christ is the Kippur, the cover, for our sins and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. But to cover sins is to forgive sins.
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We are not pressing the word beyond what it can bear if we say that, when Paul says that God justifies the ungodly, he is asserting that God declares the unbeliever just. The fact that the unbeliever by rejecting God’s verdict deprives himself eternally of the joy and comfort that this message gives does not make the declaration of God untrue, and, as Luther says, they will know someday how surely their sins were forgiven. Yet that knowledge then will only add to their torment in hell.
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Mark Zarling, MLC


Zarling:
These two brief passages clearly speak about the universal redemption Christ accomplished. And if Christ died for the sins of the world, are not those sins covered? Are they not forgiven? Do we dare call Christ a liar when He shouted "It is finished"? If Christ died for sins, the sins are forgiven. And we learned in II Cor 5:19 that forgiveness ("not imputing their trespasses unto them") is synonymous with justification.

On the basis of this brief overview of passages, what then is the Scriptural truth called universal justification? Simply this: In Christ, God has forgiven the sins of all men. By reason of Christ's perfect life of obedience and perfect sacrifice for all sins, God declares the world, believer and unbeliever alike, totally innocent. Jesus was the Substitute for all. His death is our death; His resurrection is ours. Although all are totally sinful and totally condemned because of Adam's transgression, yet because of Christ's righteousness we 7 are declared righteous. God's Word proclaims the purest Gospel possible. It is all God's abundant grace. Jesus has done it all. The world is declared innocent. And what is true for the world must be true for me! What comfort! What joy!
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UOJ refuted - from Robert Preus' last book,
Justification and Rome.

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Brett Meyer Offers If Then Quotations - Rationalis...":

While gleaning these rational tidbits from the UOJists I ran across a self condemnation.

(W)ELS CA/AZ District President Jon Buchholz wrote the landmark 2005 WELS Convention essay promoting the false gospel of Objective Justification.

Here's his definition of heresy and what follows is his fulfillment of it.

"In each example, the mark of heresy is to go as far as Scripture goes—and then to go one step further."
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"God has forgiven the whole world. God has forgiven everyone his sins." This statement is absolutely true! This is the heart of the gospel, and it must be preached and taught as the foundation of our faith.
But here’s where the caveat comes in: In Scripture, the word "forgive" is used almost exclusively in a personal, not a universal sense. The Bible doesn’t make the statement, "God has forgiven the world."

"God has forgiven all sins, but the unbeliever rejects God’s forgiveness." Again, this statement is true—and Luther employed similar terminology to press the point of Christ’s completed work of salvation.16
But we must also recognize that Scripture doesn’t speak this way."

"God has declared the entire world righteous." This statement is true, as we understand it to mean that God has rendered a verdict of "not-guilty" toward the entire world. It is also true—and must be taught—that the righteousness of Christ now stands in place of the world’s sin; this is the whole point of what Jesus did for us at Calvary.
However, once again we’re wresting a term out of its usual context. In Scripture the term "righteous" usually refers to believers."


http://www.wlsessays.net/files/BuchholzJustification.pdf

The glory of the (W)ELS.

Sermon Help for Ministers and Laity Alike


Nathan Bickel wrote about plagiarized sermons and the causes.

The cure is to take the Epistle or Gospel for the day and explain each verse. That is edifying for the preacher and the congregation.

The Vatican lectionary was supposed to be a cure, but I know of WELS pastors who bought the ELCA sermon books to help them prepare. Such brilliance - like stopping at Terminex to buy ingredients for the Sunday dinner.

Expanding the possible texts tended to alarm the ministers into relying on more crutches. The more sermonic crutches used, the poorer the sermon. The worst is the plagiarized sermon or the synodical canned sermon (normally an ad for Holy Mother Synod).

There is nothing wrong with preaching through a book of the Bible. Nor is preaching a theme wrong, as long as it is Biblical and not an ad for Frau Pfarrer's (Mrs. Pastors's) life-coach business.

Three sources are ideal:


The laity may find Lenski a bit heavy on grammar and language, but he has many excellent insights. The printed set is available and relatively inexpensive.

Laymen should be experts on the Book of Concord. It is clear and well written. I will write more about studying it later.

If the pastors and laity focus on these three sources, they will benefit and see the fruits of the Spirit.

The Word does everything -
a liberal bishop said that long ago.
Now the "conservative" Lutherans say -
Church Growth fads to everything we want.


Dateline: London.
ChurchMouse Reporting



churchmousec (http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/) has left a new comment on your post "VirtueOnline - News - Exclusives - LONDON DIARY: F...":

That is so true, more than one can imagine.

For those who have never visited London, prepare for a surprise. It has changed dramatically over the past decade as the EU borders have opened up and the general immigration policy changed under Labour.

One of the most memorable experiences was being on the Tube with SpouseMouse a couple of years ago one night. The two of us were the only English speakers in our part of the carriage. That was a very strange feeling.

Anywhere one goes in London one encounters many non-English(speaking) residents. I haven't bought anything in a London sandwich bar / coffee shop from an English person since, erm ... 2006. Poles, Chinese, French, Portuguese, Cypriots, Turks, Thais -- yes, but someone English? No.

London's (re-elected) mayor Boris Johnson is going to look into the food outlet issue during his second term. My guess is the pay is too low in the chains. Also, most of the places in Southwark, Lambeth, etc. are family-owned. (Boris has an interesting family tree, incidentally -- part English and French royalty but mostly Turkish, even though he is known for his blond hair and fair skin.)

As for the Church of England, yes, the West Indian and African faithful are keeping her alive.

Churchmouse

Wendland's NNIV Seminar:
In the Moo...d


The Society for the Prevention of Good Translations met at Mequon again. Wendland made it clear that Murdoch's NNIV is the only way to go. The NNIV is dumbed-down so far that WELS loyalists can understand it.

The feminist mytho-porno language does not bother Wendland at all. See the sentence in blue above. Dr. Moo (a Babtist!) says it is wonderfully good.

If the process is working well (see diaprax), then the opponents will have lost steam and will go along with it at the district conventions coming up.

Dr. Moo visits the cow-wash.

Color me shocked if anything other than approval of the NNIV happens from those manipulated meetings.  Everyone will wait for everyone else to say something. No one will start. If someone does, that person will soon be gone, trashed by a chorus of WELS  Kool-aid drinkers.

The only solution is to start denying them money to operate. They have feathered their nests for the ones they love best (themselves). The members will be paying for the lawsuits for decades to come, until WELS is no more.

No - UOJ.
The NNIV is the UOJ translation.

Norman Teigen - Making the Apology Mean Something

One does not just apologize
and start the same thing over again.


Norman Teigen has left a new comment on your post "Pastors Plagiarizing Platitudes":

You have brought to our attention the apology of a celebrity Lutheran blogger and the resulting praise of another celebrity Lutheran blogger who has also apologized.

I do not intend to pass judgment on the validity of these apologies. As a friend told me, if the apologies are anything less than sincere then the matter is between the penitent and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The offenses which these celebrity bloggers are guilty include demeaning the comments and views of others that differ from their own. There is, added to this, a generous helping of pious baloney.

An important part of a MEA CULPA is the promise to refrain from further offense. These two celebrity bloggers could demonstrate their commitment to peace and harmony by voluntarily agreeing to refrain from commenting for say, two years.

Might this be expected? I would wager my JC Penney card that it won't happen that these two celebrities will be silent. There is ego involved and a certain intoxication with one's own verbosity.

I say to all who have apologized, continue in a life of repentance and stop posting for two years.

Norman Teigen, Layman
Evangelical Lutheran Synod

This graphic is borrowed from someone else
who has grown tired of McCain's tirades.
I consider his hissy-fits an honor,
given the bad company he keeps.

Pastors Plagiarizing Platitudes


Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Two Encouraging Comments: From 29A and Pope Paul t...":

Pastor Jackson -

In the future, could you do an article about Lutheran pastors plagiarizing their sermons.

I suspect that the practice is widespread. But, "how" widespread? I've witnessed it not too long ago, because I visited the WELS website and saw a series of sermons on the gifts of the Spirit from Romans 12. Then I listened to a sermon from that series. I think it was about Samuel's mother, Hannah, if my recall serves me correctly.

Since, then, I have not been able to locate on the WELS website where the pastors can acquire their Sunday canned sermons.

Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel

www.thechristianmessage.org

www.moralmatters.org

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GJ - I have heard about the canned sermons from WELS. I am not sure where they are from. Copying sermons verbatim is fairly common, but despicable. Congregations should view it as a violation of the call, especially when a Lutheran copies from a non-Lutheran, claims the sermon as his own, and publishes the sermon on the parish website.

John Parlow has been caught doing this. When I compared his sermon to the original, his congregation stopped posting the sermon. Now people have to request the sermon from the office.

Parlow and Limmer copied an email from Hybels (Willow Creek) and sent it around as their own, changing just a few words.

Another Appleton area pastor copied Chuck Swindoll verbatim and published it in his congregational website.

Tim Glende and Ski were obviously copying Craig Groeschel sermons and giving them - same titles, same texts, same context. Glende claimed that was not true and excommunicated the member who caught him at it. WELS promotes plagiarism and lying about plagiarism. I have seen the same obvious patterns of plagiarism in their sermons, but the titles do not show up on Google searches. Either they have Groeschel's style on their own or the Groeschel sermons are now behind a firewall. Deputy Doug, the DP, approves of clergy plagiarism but blames all his troubles on my blog.

Groschel told his disciples to be honest about the sermons and graphics he gave away. He mentioned one minister being fired for not admitting to kelming his sermons. Given clergy laziness, Groeschel might have set up the fire wall.

Some have asked me to check out other sermons, since I have software to check for plagiarism all over the Net. The sermons have sounded suspect but did not register on Turn-It-In. They were original and sounded phony or they used some cloaking mechanism. One way would be to send recordings around or post the audio alone, so word matches would not show up unless other congregations copied them the same way. Another way would be to use a secure log-in (https) to hide content.

When a pastor is hotter than Georgia asphalt for one of these mega-church leaders, it is easy to tell. He borrows a motto (Ski) or joins the association (Parlow - Willow Creek). Some checking around will turn up common themes and texts.

Non-Lutherans like Groeschel are fond of sermon series with clever names. When I see a four-part series with a clever name, promoted at a Lutheran church, I suspect an alien source.


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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "Pastors Plagiarizing Platitudes":

Pastor Jackson,

Thank you. Yes, I agree - some tell-tale signs of plagiarizing sermons, are, as you say, common titles, texts and themes. Also, what I think contributes, (although) not the cause, are the designated pericopes which seem to be, synodically encouraged. There is no substitute for boring - having everyone do the same thing. Recently I remember seeing an online reference to a WELS publication by a WELS (southern state pastor) which was [is] to be an "aid" to WELS pastors. If my memory recall serves me correctly, it was giving pericope themes with some short notes, according to the particular pericope church year.

I'm suspicious of plagiarizing sermons, when a sermon is delivered with a construction content that begins with an illustration and which carries its "puppy" thematic illustration, throughout, to the bitter end. The illustration often becomes more, the content than the actual substance. It leaves the pew listener thinking to himself, - "How is pastor going to tie in, this over bloated illustration that he has spent 5 minutes constructing in his introduction? How is he going to end this with the same thing, and tie it into all his illustration airbrushed retelling of the Biblical narrative that is sandwiched between?" I think that these type sermons hinder the Spirit's influence upon the soul which needs to hear from his pastor and from God, on a particular Sunday morning.

Perhaps, I am one who expects too much, since I was a second career seminary student and had some life experience and other types of employment behind me, before being ordained and out in the parish ministry field. Regardless, though, I think that there is no excuse for sermon plagiarizing. If a young pastor does not possess the life experience and have some of his own ideas – (and, especially, the words) to present, - then, he should be spending more time reading, praying and meditating upon the Word, - and, especially exercising his faith, looking to the Holy Spirit to give him some fresh manna Word. That, may take some time, though, – precious time spent detracting from developing a “necessary” “church growth” program.

Nathan M. Bickel - pastor emeritus

www.thechristianmessage.org

www.moralmatters.org

Thursday, May 10, 2012

An Honest Way To Copy from Others


Bloggers can copy other Internet sources easily. Chrome (the browser from Google) makes that easy with a tool called Blog This!

I discovered Chrome's Blog This! and started using it some time ago. There is an orange icon with a B inside, to the right of my URL window, left of the Chrome wrench icon (tools).

When I am on an interesting article, I only need to click the B and have the page linked on my blog. There are three indications that this is from another source.

  • First, the source is in the headline. 
  • Second, the exact URL source is at the top of the page. 
  • Third, the selection ends with "via Blog This" to show that it was copied.
When quoting a source, I do my best to show exactly what I am quoting and where it is from. Sometimes I use a blue font to make the distinctions clearer.

Many pages have disappeared from the Net after being copied here. I keep them, knowing the Ichabod-effect leads to kilcreasing (the erasure of previous posts and comments).

I like to feature good comments from readers and from bloggers. Variety makes a blog more interesting.

I wondered why McCain's blog seems so sterile and boring. The answer is similar to the politician's speech. When he reads another's words, they are not his thoughts but another's. Reagan began with some ideas, had speech-writers, and then made the final effort his own with corrections and additions.



APA requires a citation and quotation marks when using the words of another. Longer quotations are marked with an indentation of the entire text. The issue is honesty, not the exact format.

Many years ago my wife and I tracked down a "Luther quote" by speaking to the author of the book where this first appeared (as far as we could tell). He did not know where it came from, he said, and there was no citation. Later, someone discovered it was a statement in a novel about Luther, as if Luther said it.

When I began assembling quotations to use in my writing, in Megatron, the legendary database, I included a complete citation with each entry. One quotation seemed wrong to Brett Meyer, so I went back to the printed source (Lenker) and discovered that it was correct but odd without an explanation about the context.

Two Encouraging Comments:
From 29A and Pope Paul the Plagiarist



Two people greatly encouraged me today. One urged me to continue writing on justification by faith. Many people are participating in studying the issue, and I enjoy doing my little part. Unlike the UOJ Hive, I am only too happy to represent the other side of the issue. That has clarified the issue for many people.

I enjoy writing about justification by faith, because that was Luther's Biblical theme. Justification by faith is the Gospel. UOJ is Pietistic, rationalistic nonsense.

Another message of encouragement came from a rant posted by the Tim Glende crowd. It sounded like Paul McCain again, but they all sound alike. The Glende blog is the Groundhog Day of cowardly, badly spelled invective, endlessly repeating itself.

Eighth Commandment
One of McCain's pals cited the Eighth Commandment against me because I called SP Harrison's campaign manager a plagiarist and Romanist. When I pointed out the way McCain appeared to write articles he was only copying, the LCMS pastor said, "That's his MO."

I know about the modus operandi of plagiarists. I deal with them from time to time. That does not make stealing the original words of another person legal or ethical. At a university, plagiarism can be the sole cause for expulsion, whether done by a faculty member or a student. But a supposed editor at a church publishing house? - that is a lot of money to pay for copy and paste.

For sale on eBay.
The digital age has made copying much easier and faster.


McCain's St. Mark Plagiarism
In one recent case, the citation came at the end, marked only as a link to "Source." In APA, that means the article was based on the insights of that source, but using the writer's own words.

Instead, McCain's post was verbatim from The Catholic Encyclopedia. I had no idea at the beginning of the article that he did not write a word of it. Secondly, I did not know it was verbatim from The Catholic Encyclopedia until I opened up a second window and compared paragraph after paragraph. And yet, McCain linked it on LaughQuest as an article from HIS blog to read.

Five or more words in a row, from another source, should be clearly marked as quotations from that source.

Bugenhagen Plagiarism
I suspected that more of this was going on, so I did a tiny bit of checking and found another McCain post, on Bugenhagen,  copied directly from a Lutheran blog (Northwoods Lutherans) - no citation at all. But Paul wanted LaughQuest readers to study HIS momentous words, so he linked his post on LQ.

Chrysostom Plagiarism
I did another quick check tonight and found McCain's Chrysostom post extremely well developed, with tons of extra research information at the end. The Chrysostom opening is stolen from here (Concordia and Koinonia), and not attributed. The rest of the article is from The Catholic Encyclopedia, which is named at the beginning. However, it is not clear that the rest of the post is verbatim from the Roman Catholic source.

Take Your Own Medicine, Pope Paul
McCain just congratulated Rolf Preus for apologizing. The time has come for McCain to repent and apologize for defrauding his readers and sources. He is stealing the work of another to pose as a scholar with a vast knowledge of many subjects.

Even Ski and Glende know how to copy and paste. Their spelling and editing is almost as bad as McCain's. No wonder he feels at home on their blog.



bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Two Encouraging Comments: From 29A and Pope Paul t...":

So Rolf Preus apologized over his past statements about the non-orthodoxy of the LCMS? Also, I just looked at Cyberbrethern for the last week, and didn't see any comments on Rolf's apology. Did McCain make the comments on LaughQuest? Thanks for filling me in:

http://cyberbrethren.com/ 


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In March of 2005, shortly after Reverend David Mahsman and Mr. Leonard Pranschke lost the positions they held in the Missouri Synod, I posted here on Luther Quest an unkind and unbrotherly attack on these men, gloating over their misfortune, and saying I was “overjoyed” that they lost their positions. Dredging up in my mind the synodical conflicts of the past where these brothers and my dear father were at odds, I thought that I was somehow honoring my father by attacking these men. I was wrong. I was not honoring my father at all. I was dishonoring myself.

Our love of orthodoxy and the pure doctrine of God’s word is love for the truth that God, for the sake of Christ’s holy and vicarious obedience and suffering, forgives us all our sins and sets us at peace with him. The faith that receives this forgiveness and peace is the faith that issues into a love for the brethren and a desire to live at peace with all men, especially our fellow Christians. When a minister of the Word writes mean and hurtful things that militate against the gospel of reconciliation he does positive harm to the cause of the gospel. For that I am sincerely sorry.

I apologize to Rev. Mahsman and to Mr. Pranschke. What I wrote was mean-spirited. I am sorry I wrote it and I retract it. I never should have written it.


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Now that's an apology. Thank you, Rev. Preus.

We, fellow sinner/saints, rejoice with you that the blood of Jesus, His son, cleanses us from all sin.

Thanks be to God.

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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Two Encouraging Comments: From 29A and Pope Paul t...":

Rev. David Mahsman and Mr. Leonard Pranschke were longtime Bohlmann acolytes. Mahsman was editor of The Lutheran Witness and Reporter and Pranschke held various positions in the Purple Palace and headed up the law firm that the LCMS Inc. retained:

Jesus First leader Jon J. Coyne wrote about Rolf in 2005:

http://www.jesusfirst.net/2005May01.htm

Snippet: I will also share one statement by Rev. Rolf Preus, a former LCMS pastor and brother to Christian Preus (current member of the BOD), Rev. Daniel Preus (former LCMS 1st VP) and Rev. Klemet Preus (writer for Consensus). Pastor Rolf Preus writes on a public website the following:

“There is life outside of Missouri! But as a former member of "our" Synod I must say that I am overjoyed at the fact that Pranschke and Mahsman have both been fired. The wheels of justice grind very slowly. But they grind very fine . . .”

Later Rev. Preus continues his statement with these words:

“Back in 1989 (during the days when the LCMS had an adjudication system) Ralph Bohlmann engineered the firing of my father as president of CTS (Concordia Theological Seminary) in Ft. Wayne through his lackeys on the BOR (Board of Regents) at CTS by means of a fraudulent "honorable" retirement. During my father's efforts to regain his office through the adjudication system of the synod, Mahsman regularly distorted the facts of the case by means of selective reporting that deliberately left out crucial information. He, Pranschke, and many other members of the permanent bureaucracy at the Purple Palace regularly carried water for Ralph Bohlmann in Bohlmann's vendetta against CTS, Robert Preus and anyone else in the confessional movement who might threaten Bohlmann's hegemony over the LCMS. Mahsmann pretended objectivity in print while spreading rumors about how the BOR "honorably" retired Robert Preus to spare him embarrassment.”

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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Two Encouraging Comments: From 29A and Pope Paul t...":

The Rolf Preus situation might explain the recent remarks in the DP's sermon at the Ft. Wayne Call Service, namely, about how it is "twisted" for one pastor to take another brother to task via blogs in the name of correcting that brother. See comments here:

http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/05/stern-warnings-from-concordia-ft-wayne.html

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bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Two Encouraging Comments: From 29A and Pope Paul t...":

Apology from Pr. Rolf Preus

http://www.lutherquest.org/cgi-bin/discus40/show.cgi?tpc=13&post=264820#POST264820

Ultra-Orthodox Jews Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse - NYTimes.com



Ultra-Orthodox Jews Shun Their Own for Reporting Child Sexual Abuse - NYTimes.com:


The first shock came when Mordechai Jungreis learned that his mentally disabled teenage son was being molested in a Jewish ritual bathhouse in Brooklyn. The second came after Mr. Jungreis complained, and the man accused of the abuse was arrested.
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Old friends started walking stonily past him and his family on the streets of Williamsburg. Their landlord kicked them out of their apartment. Anonymous messages filled their answering machine, cursing Mr. Jungreis for turning in a fellow Jew. And, he said, the mother of a child in a wheelchair confronted Mr. Jungreis’s mother-in-law, saying the same man had molested her son, and she “did not report this crime, so why did your son-in-law have to?”

By cooperating with the police, and speaking out about his son’s abuse, Mr. Jungreis, 38, found himself at the painful forefront of an issue roiling his insular Hasidic community. There have been glimmers of change as a small number of ultra-Orthodox Jews, taking on longstanding religious and cultural norms, have begun to report child sexual abuse accusations against members of their own communities. But those who come forward often encounter intense intimidation from their neighbors and from rabbinical authorities, aimed at pressuring them to drop their cases.

Abuse victims and their families have been expelled from religious schools and synagogues, shunned by fellow ultra-Orthodox Jews and targeted for harassment intended to destroy their businesses. Some victims’ families have been offered money, ostensibly to help pay for therapy for the victims, but also to stop pursuing charges, victims and victims’ advocates said.

“Try living for one day with all the pain I am living with,” Mr. Jungreis, spent and distraught, said recently outside his new apartment on Williamsburg’s outskirts. “Did anybody in the Hasidic community in these two years, in Borough Park, in Flatbush, ever come up and look my son in the eye and tell him a good word? Did anybody take the courage to show him mercy in the street?”

A few blocks away, Pearl Engelman, a 64-year-old great-grandmother, said her community had failed her too. In 2008, her son, Joel, told rabbinical authorities that he had been repeatedly groped as a child by a school official at the United Talmudical Academy in Williamsburg. The school briefly removed the official but denied the accusation. And when Joel turned 23, too old to file charges under the state’s statute of limitations, they returned the man to teaching.

“There is no nice way of saying it,” Mrs. Engelman said. “Our community protects molesters. Other than that, we are wonderful.”

Keeping to Themselves

The New York City area is home to an estimated 250,000 ultra-Orthodox Jews — the largest such community outside of Israel, and one that is growing rapidly because of its high birthrate. The community is concentrated in Brooklyn, where many of the ultra-Orthodox are Hasidim, followers of a fervent spiritual movement that began in 18th-century Europe and applies Jewish law to every aspect of life.

Their communities, headed by dynastic leaders called rebbes, strive to preserve their centuries-old customs by resisting the contaminating influences of the outside world. While some ultra-Orthodox rabbis now argue that a child molester should be reported to the police, others strictly adhere to an ancient prohibition against mesirah, the turning in of a Jew to non-Jewish authorities, and consider publicly airing allegations against fellow Jews to be chillul Hashem, a desecration of God’s name.

There are more mundane factors, too. Some ultra-Orthodox Jews want to keep abuse allegations quiet to protect the reputation of the community, and the family of the accused. And rabbinical authorities, eager to maintain control, worry that inviting outside scrutiny could erode their power, said Samuel Heilman, a professor of Jewish studies at Queens College.

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UOJ Fanatics Will Not Give Up Their False Doctrine


I asked the UOJ fanatics, again, "Why are there no UOJ hymns?"

Nevertheless, the UOJ fanatics will never give up.

The main reason is their philosophical framework. For instance, one rationalistic claim is - "I will only believe what can be reproduced in a laboratory, so there are no miracles."

Our son's godfather, with two doctorates in science from Yale, responded, "Of course they cannot be reproduced in a lab. That is the definition of a miracle." He thought the self-serving claim was funny.

Given that assumption, there are no miracles, no Incarnation, no atoning death of Christ, no resurrection.

The Synodical Conference (tm) assumption is philosophical, not Biblical. Their philosophy is the definition copied from the English translation of a Halle professor's book. The translator was a Calvinist superstar in America, and the Halle professor (Knapp) was the last of the Pietists at Halle. The subsequent professors were Rationalists who denied most or all of the Biblical truths.

When the Walther group went to school, training was rationalistic and the church was run by rationalists. The alternative was Pietism, so they associated with one abusive Pietistic leader, then with another one (Martin Stephan) who studied at Halle. The DNA of UOJ is easy to trace, from Knapp to Stephan to Walther.

A guru from India can order his disciples to do anything he pleases. There is a life-long bond with the guru that the disciples cannot break. Cell groups, which Walther and his friends joined, are quite similar. They create a morbid dependency in the disciples and a dictatorial attitude in the guru. Stephan benefited from the departure and death of the original cell group leader. They transferred their dependency to him and saw no wrong in all his manifestations of adultery and syphilis.

The deceptions of the Synodical Conference (tm) have continued this dependency. They cannot admit to the criminal behavior of Walther, but create an idol out of his life and works. Bishop Stephan's STD is not a divinity degree but a documented fact. That outbreak among the young women of Perryville and St. Louis allowed the disciples to break with the guru. Even then, the opposition was mixed. Supporters of Stephan were left behind so the Walther mob was 100% on the attack.

Walther took over. As one WELS wit recently wrote to me, "The bishop came over on the ship with the pope." Walther became the infallible pope of the Synodical Conference.

Therefore, the assumption is clear - "If Walther is wrong, then the Synodical Conference was built upon false doctrine and lies. Holy Mother Synod is infallible, so the founders must be infallible." Borrowing a line from the pope, they say--in effect--"The Holy Spirit would never allow Holy Father Walther to make a mistake."

That is why the deceiving leaders make people think of Walther as the solution to false doctrine, going so far as denying his signed, sworn obedience to bishop-for-life Stephan.

That explains why the story of the sudden confessions of two mistresses was cooked up by Walther and his very close friend - then repeated, in spite of evidence to the contrary. Today it would be the equivalence of claiming that America suddenly found out that Obama was Black, when his wife confessed the truth. Even the hagiogrpahers have to admit, "They knew all along. There was no violation of private confessions."

Attacking UOJ as false doctrine is undermining all the invented history of the Synodical Conference (tm). That also proves that the Synodical Conference (tm) elevates the claims of Pietists above the Scriptures and Confessions.

When cornered, the UOJ Enthusiasts cite Pietists like Rambach to support their arguments, and use the Synodical Conference errorists to prove UOJ is correct. The fact remains - many SC leaders used and promoted justification by faith materials that were true to the Bible and Confessions. Gausewitz is one irrefutable example, but he has been kicked under the bus and forgotten. One might as well argue that something is true because a Martian named Igg-E said so.



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Joel Lillo, Fox Valley, WELS has left a new comment on your post "UOJ Fanatics Will Not Give Up Their False Doctrine...":

"A Lamb goes uncomplaining forth, the guilt OF ALL MEN bearing; and laden with the SINS OF EARTH, none else the burden sharing!"

Sure sounds like UOJ to me!

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GJ - Thank you for proving my point, Joel. The UOJ Enthusiasts merge the atoning death of Christ with justification by faith. They affirm and deny that they teach the absolution of the world, apart from the Word, the Means of Grace, or faith.

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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "UOJ Fanatics Will Not Give Up Their False Doctrine...":

Ichabod -

The reference (example) in this article to miracles (etc.) and the linkage of rationalistic thought with those who believe and teach UOJ - "Universal Objective Justification," reminded me of a portion of a past online topical message of mine:

"Miracles" - "Why some people have a difficult time accepting their reality:"

........One of the greatest of all miracles is Creation. [Genesis 1:1f-2] If a person cannot believe the first verse of Holy Scripture, he or she will always have problems believing in miracles and accepting their reality. If a person cannot believe in a one supreme eternal, all knowing and all powerful God, he or she will always be plagued with doubt about their existence and future. People often neglect to realize that Creator God is not confined by the natural laws that He, Himself, put in place. For instance, God not only created the law of gravity, but, He, Himself, is not confined by it. He has often, (as recorded in Scripture) worked His specific miracles outside the laws of nature -- being (of course) above nature.......

........So much for the ability of humans to deny and dismiss their Maker. Essentially, a soul in its unregenerate state, does not have the ability to believe, understand and appreciate and practice the Christian Faith, or give homage to the One Triune God, who dispenses faith, to whom He may..........

http://www.thechristianmessage.org/2012/01/miracles-why-some-people-have-difficult.html

Essentially, those who claim genuine faith, but cannot readily accept the miracles of Scripture, have no (objective) business calling themselves Christians, and even labeling themselves, Lutherans.

As to this article's Walther reference:

I could not help but think that synod Lutheran hierarchies need to put things right and disavow the historical revisionism of its Walther beginnings. Official synodical publications need to begin to accurately reflect the stark reality, rather than to continually sugar coat Walther. I doubt very much if rank-in-file Lutherans can explain who Stephan was, and the connection he and Walther had - plus all that transpired with the European migration of Lutherans to America.

Finally, I can't help but think of one of the major reasons that Pastor (missionary) Loehe, withdrew his active presence from American Lutheranism (apart from his Saginaw Valley - Michigan influence). Even back then, he could see no point in investing his energies and the Lord’s work, knowing that headstrong erring Christian Lutherans, were already headed in untoward (cockroach type) directions.

Nathan M. Bickel

www.thechristianmessage.org

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A Blogger Named 2138 - On Justification



As far as justification “already accomplished,” the Large Catechism, 3rd Article, says, 

“38] For neither you nor I could ever know anything of Christ, or believe on Him, and obtain Him for our Lord, unless it were offered to us and granted to our hearts by the Holy Ghost through the preaching of the Gospel. The work is done and accomplished; for Christ has acquired and gained the treasure for us by His suffering, death, resurrection, etc. But if the work remained concealed so that no one knew of it, then it would be in vain and lost. That this treasure, therefore, might not lie buried, but be appropriated and enjoyed, God has caused the Word to go forth and be proclaimed, in which He gives the Holy Ghost to bring this treasure home and appropriate it to us. 39] Therefore sanctifying is nothing else than bringing us to Christ to receive this good, to which we could not attain of ourselves.”

“54] We further believe that in this Christian Church we have forgiveness of sin, which is wrought through the holy Sacraments and Absolution, moreover, through all manner of consolatory promises of the entire Gospel. Therefore, whatever is to be preached concerning the Sacraments belongs here, and, in short, the whole Gospel and all the offices of Christianity, which also must be preached and taught without ceasing. For although the grace of God is secured through Christ, and sanctification is wrought by the Holy Ghost through the Word of God in the unity of the Christian Church, yet on account of our flesh which we bear about with us we are never without sin. 

55] Everything, therefore, in the Christian Church is ordered to the end that we shall daily obtain there nothing but the forgiveness of sin through the Word and signs, to comfort and encourage our consciences as long as we live here. Thus, although we have sins, the [grace of the] Holy Ghost does not allow them to injure us, because we are in the Christian Church, where there is nothing but [continuous, uninterrupted] forgiveness of sin, both in that God forgives us, and in that we forgive, bear with, and help each other. 
56] But outside of this Christian Church, where the Gospel is not, there is no forgiveness, as also there can be no holiness [sanctification]. Therefore all who seek and wish to merit holiness [sanctification], not through the Gospel and forgiveness of sin, but by their works, have expelled and severed themselves [from this Church].”

Christ paid for the sins of the world and won the treasure of forgiveness to be distributed through the Gospel to all who would believe. (Not sure I'd call that justification, though.) There is enough forgiveness to cover every single person, if all the world would believe! When a child is baptized, or someone hears the Gospel and comes to faith, a full measure of that beautiful treasure is distributed to that new believer. Faith is the difference-maker, but faith is not something the new believer “did.” It was all the Holy Spirit’s work, through the Gospel, where and when it pleases him.

Yet I don’t believe that, at any time in the above scenario, God looks/looked down on the unbelievers, without faith, and declared them “justified” or “forgiven.” To me, that extra “step” in Justification, apart from faith, cheapens the moment that someone is brought to faith though Word and Sacrament.

Keeping UOJ out of the picture (at least for me) makes the desperation of our original sinful state, and the working of faith in my heart by the Holy Spirit, all that more incredible. With UOJ, my pre-conversion state doesn’t seem to me quite so desperate, since I’m already “objectively justified,” which sounds pretty good to me, even if I never came to faith.

I don’t know. Just some rambling thoughts. Feel free to dig in.




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GJ - I have no idea who 2138 is.


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Pastor emeritus Nathan Bickel has left a new comment on your post "A Blogger Named 2138 - On Justification":

Ichabod - Thank you for the wonderfully presented article! Here, are my thoughts:

Luther states, of the Christian:

".....For although the grace of God is secured through Christ, and sanctification is wrought by the Holy Ghost through the Word of God in the unity of the Christian Church, yet on account of our flesh which we bear about with us we are never without sin......"

.......Thus, although we have sins, the [grace of the] Holy Ghost does not allow them to injure us, because we are in the Christian Church, where there is nothing but [continuous, uninterrupted] forgiveness of sin, both in that God forgives us, and in that we forgive, bear with, and help each other.......

Luther states, of the unbelieving non-Christian:

........But outside of this Christian Church, where the Gospel is not, there is no forgiveness, as also there can be no holiness [sanctification]. Therefore all who seek and wish to merit holiness [sanctification], not through the Gospel and forgiveness of sin, but by their works, have expelled and severed themselves [from this Church].”.....

Pastor Jackson -

I think that you summarized Luther's correct Scriptural understanding, with the one sentence you offered, following Luther's explanation:

"Christ paid for the sins of the world and won the treasure of forgiveness to be distributed through the Gospel to all who would believe." [Your words]

It is my firm understanding, that there is a "world of difference" to say that Christ "paid for the sins of the world" versus the erroneous teaching that he "absolved the world" through Christ's all atoning sacrifice. The major error of UOJ adherents, is, that they confuse this major distinction and (then) extend their (damning) error by attaching "imputation" into their sordid understanding and public teaching and preaching.

Finally, what would the Apostle Paul's ministry been like if he possessed this erroneous and damning UOJ mentality? Under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, he would not have penned the following:

2 Corinthians 5:15 - "......he [Christ] died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again."

Back up 4 verses (for context) and note what is attributed to the Apostle Paul (again, under direct inspiration of the Holy Spirit). Note his evangelistic (ever urgent) fervor to preach the Gospel:

2 Corinthians 5:11 - ".....Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men;....."

A Christmas sermon without (going "full circle"), preaching sin and the full terror consequences of the law, vis-a-vis the damning (eternal) consequences of sin, is not a faithful preached representation of the Gospel. Yet, I recall sitting in a Lutheran church with a mixed crowd of church and non church members, having to hear this sermon, of which message, smacked UOJ and did not truly distinguish between believers, unbelievers; belief and unbelief. Such, I'm sad to say is usually the same case of attending Lutheran funerals, with mixed member and non member, (non-Christians), attending........

Nathan M. Bickel - pastor emeritus

www.thechristianmessage.org

www.moralmatters.org




Special Interests Run the Feds and the WELS

His Beatitude, Bishop Ski of The CORE Bar and Grill


norcal763 has left a new comment on your post "WELS Rustoleum - Warning! Graphic!":

The parallel between WELS and the Federal Government is fitting. Both institutions are 'led' by soft men who answer more readily to Special Interests than to the interests of their calling. I don't need to elaborate concerning the SI's to whom the government answers, but WELS leaders pay a lot of attention to Thrivent.

Both WELS and the Federal Government draw leaders who hail from educational backgrounds where affiliations with Secret Societies (complete with humiliating hazing rituals) are endemic. The implied threat of mutually assured destruction of reputation is very effective in assuring that inappropriate behavior continues without consequence.

Whole Lot of Scandals Going On:
Lutherans Are Not Alone in Skimming Funds

Jan Crouch is on the right.
Big hair and red-eye do not blend well.

Paul Crouch likes his urban cowboy suits.

Among the issues Apprising Ministries covers is the heretical Word Faith (WF) movement as it heads toward acceptance within the mainstream. Elephant Room 2 will likely continue to be the source of division within the contemporary evangelicalism this year because the main claim to fame for this conference was, in my opinion, the pass given to Word Faith mogul T.D. Jakes.
This was a door that should never have been opened because now ostensibly mainstream evangelicals like two-time ER veteran Steven Furtick openly says T.D. Jakes Is My Favorite Preacher In The World and Joel Osteen Is A Great Man Of God. Sadly, people like Joyce Meyer—another Furtick fav—and Joel Osteen are tip-of-the-spear with WF-lite man-centered self-esteem messages ala Robert Schueller  (sic).
In addition, such as these claim this human potential skubalon is given to them by direct revelation from God Himself. The twist added on by these WF spiritual snake oil salesmen is the so-called prosperity gospel. This is not guilt-by-asscoiation, it is guilt-by-endorsement, which moves the Trinity Broadcasting Network—upon which that WF trio endorsed by Steven Furtick regularly appear—closer to the heart of the Christian community.
Now we come to the latest issues in the oft-sordid happenings around TBN. Thanks to growing syncretism and things like ER2 this becomes much closer to your mainstream evangelical church than you may have known. It kind of begins in October of 2011 as Paul Crouch, Jr. Resigns from Family-Founded TBN. He rather suddenly:
announced his resignation from the Trinity Broadcasting Network, the well-known Christian television ministry his parents Paul and Jan Crouch founded 38 years ago. (source)
Then February of this year found TBN Embroiled in ‘Sordid’ Family Lawsuit when:
The granddaughter of Trinity Broadcasting Network founders Paul and Jan Crouch has accused some of the network’s directors of illegally distributing “charitable assets” worth more than $50 million for their personal use. Brittany B. Koper, the daughter of Paul Crouch Jr., was TBN’s chief financial officer until last September. She says she was wrongfully fired after she refused to cover up the alleged distribution scheme. (source)
According to a report in The Orange County Register it appears that Koper’s grandfather and uncle Matt Crouch immediately played the classic Word Faith “touch not the anointed of the Lord” card. OC Register staff writer Teri Sforza tells us that right as the news of alleged fraud was breaking:
On Thursday, Feb. 9 — the same day that our story ran online —  Paul Crouch and his son, Matt, were having a live chat on TBN’s “Behind the Scenes.” Paul was reminiscing about how TBN began back in 1973 — God spoke to him as he was driving on MacArthur Boulevard — and the conversation took a turn that Koper’s attorney finds somewhat menacing. “You know what’s funny Dad?” Matt said (at minute 8:38 on the video).
“There have been a few attempts in the TBN history to upset TBN, to stop TBN, to — there have been a few fools in the 38, 39 year history, coming up on 40 years, and you know what, any attempt at stopping TBN — they have no idea who they’re actually pushing into the corner. You and Mom get pushed in a corner, God help you. That’s a lesson I’ve learned from you, seriously.”
Paul Crouch responded: “God help anyone who would try to get in the way of TBN, which was God’s plan. … I have attended the funerals of at least two people who tried…. “Boy, anyone that’s ever tried to get in the way of this network – don’t. Don’t try it. Don’t try it, I’m telling you. You’re playing with fire. God says ‘I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.’ And TBN, you know what, just plain old TBN as a great network entity is proof of the sovereignty of God and the power of God against hell and high water. This network stands as a monument to the faithfulness of God. He did it. Jan and I were just simple little kids — we didn’t even know what we were doing. It was God’s idea. He did it all.”
Crouch then appealed for donations. “Anyone have a need?” he asked. “Plant a seed. Get to the phone.” The comments were directed at no one in particular, but they resounded with Koper. (source)
I also noticed that particular episode has since vanished from the TBN archives. Today the Christian Post is reporting TBN Family Feud Heats Up as Network Fires Back Against Fraud Accusations:
The Trinity Broadcast Network (TBN) said Tuesday that a civil lawsuit filed against it by the founders’ granddaughter and the company’s former finance director is “meritless and contrived,” adding more arguments to what has become an epic scandal involving the largest Christian television network.
Brittany B. Koper, granddaughter of TBN founders Paul and Janice Crouch and their company’s former director of finance, has filed a civil lawsuit alleging that the network knew and kept quiet about broad financial inaccuracies benefiting its founders…
[T]he network claims the Kopers were fired for stealing $1.3 million to buy real estate and cars and make family loans, and only came back with their own allegations later, in retaliation. (source)
In closing this, for now, The New York Times brought out another angle of this spiritual “he said-she said” by focusing on the obvious opulence of TBN in Family feud reveals luxuries at largest Christian TV network:
For 39 years, the Trinity Broadcasting Network has urged viewers to give generously and reap the Lord’s bounty in return. The prosperity gospel preached by Paul and Janice Crouch, who built a single station into the world’s largest Christian television network, has worked out well for them.
Mr. and Mrs. Crouch have his-and-her mansions one street apart in a gated community here, provided by the network using viewer donations and tax-free earnings. But Mrs. Crouch, 74, rarely sleeps in the $5.6 million house with tennis court and pool. She mostly lives in a large company house near Orlando, Fla., where she runs a side business, the Holy Land Experience theme park.
Mr. Crouch, 78, has an adjacent home there too, but rarely visits. Its occupant is often a security guard who doubles as Mrs. Crouch’s chauffeur. The twin sets of luxury homes only hint at the high living enjoyed by the Crouches, inspirational television personalities whose multitudes of stations and satellite signals reach millions of worshipers across the globe.
Almost since they started in the 1970s, the couple have been criticized for secrecy about their use of donations, which totaled $93 million in 2010. (source)
Yet still Paul Crouch was on TBN saying, “Anyone have a need? Plant a seed [send us money]. Get to the phone.”
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