Maranatha Student:
Where our college/seminary was located (Watertown, WI) was an old-line Lutheran college. Northwestern. Since merged with Martin Luther in Minnesota.
In 1968 a group of students went on their campus, into dorms, to "witness" to those WELS heathen!! Rock, drunkeness, porn and about everything that was NOT allowed at Maranatha were in evidence. And we were confronted with the fact that many of these guys were going on to seminary and into the pastorate.
After our visit we were told we could talk to students out on campus, but never again allowed in the dorms. We had been TOLD that the WELS was the most conservative/hyper or "x" of the Lutherans, but I've found most MoSyn to be in REALITY more conservative.
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'Dr. Bob' Griffin
www.sovereigngracechurch.com
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GJ - UOJ favors alcoholism because drunks know they are already forgiven. Northwestern College was famous in WELS for allowing underage drinking, drinking to excess, and many other excesses. I posted this because it was information found on the Net. Of course, now we know it is true because an official denial was posted immediately afterwards.
WELS logic: If one Starbucks makes real whipped cream, then WELS is still perfect.
If Maranatha expects young women to dress modestly, their posts must be full of lies about WELS.
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M Schottey has left a new comment on your post "Maranatha Remembers":
No, but a 40 year old story coming from a legalistic source isn't what i'd call classy investigative journalism.
2nd-- Because it happened at Northwestern does not mean it was 'allowed' as you put it. Just as it is not 'allowed' at MLC today.
In fact, a bigger problem is getting people to see that you cannot solve a 'morality problem' with constant and empty sanctification preaching, or using the Gospel as a new Law.
I know many young men who were the type of men you are deriding, and they have repented and been forgiven.
Not all of us can be perfect from the start as you and your baptist friend seem to be.
Does a lack of drinking on campus or ankle length skirts make you a better Christian?
If it does...please post a picture of yourself in an ankle length skirt.
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GJ - I had to feature this because it is so typically WELS, except for the fact that the author signs his name.
Sig Becker, according to Herman Otten, was disgusted with the alcoholism and adultery of the WELS ministerium. Recently, I heard of a well-traveled WELS businessman who said the WELS clergy were the worst behaved, adulterous, and loutish of all the clergy he knew across the country. But of course, when the former SP was asked about a pastor in Arizona living in adultery, he went after the supposed source of the news. The adulterer was left alone.
One WELS pastor's wife, a graduate of DMLC, complained about the Score Reports at NWC. Her husband, a WELS circuit pastor, roared with laughter. Perhaps Mike could explain the Score Reports in a comment.
I would dissect all the logical fallacies from the post above, but I have some homework to grade. Readers can judge for themselves.
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