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Thursday, July 14, 2011
WELS Excommunicated Rick Tecklin, Joe and Lisa Krohn, For Supporting the Alleged Position of WELS
There is no justice in this, not even basic fairness. I’ve
actually spent most of my career as a historian studying justice and law
(often its abuses). Even the 1740 South Carolina Slave Code stated the
following: “Natural justice forbids that any person of what condition
soever be condemned unheard.” Yet this congregation and this district
appeals board have done so, violating a principle that even slave owners
felt compelled to write into law. I am ashamed of my synod and most
especially the wolves in sheep’s clothing who have perpetrated this
travesty.
Lord’s blessings to your and your family in these difficult times. I
wish I had the power to do more than just offer encouragement.
Dr. Aaron Palmer
Dear Rick…May the Lord go with you as well. You are in our
prayers. This is all so troublesome. Your situation will need to be
dealt with. The dispute can not go on between you, the pastors who are
communing you and the leadership of the district in which you reside.
In Christ, Joe
Dear Rick,
Those holding positions in our circuit, the Northern Wisconsin District
and the synod level have abdicated their responsibility to preserve
doctrinal purity. They have lost their credibility among some they are
to serve. As enablers, those who allow the issues surrounding your
situation to continue unresolved should be held accountable.
Tony Kubek Jr
‘As enablers, those who allow the issues surrounding your situation to continue unresolved should be held accountable.’
Doesn’t that go straight to the top of the synod? To whom shall the
case be appealed? A word or two directly from Pres. Schroeder is in
order. To me alot is riding on this situation and that of the Krohn
family in Texas. These being the two most prominent cases since you
both graciously keep the rest of us informed via your blogs. How many
other similar cases are out there now flying under the radar that we are
not aware of, I wonder? To me, there is alot riding on the on the
outcome that eventually must be addressed in some sort of a higher
appeal. I think the synod leaders know the division and split that will
be brought about should a definitive answer and so-called resolution be
brought about. Although I’m not hopeful for anything to be resolved by
the Synod in convention at the end of the month, these and matters like
these should be top priority in my humble opinion. I’m just a one
girl, but one girl whose entire family are life-long WELS members who
have supported this synod in countless ways. Sad to say it but I am on
the brink of removing my membership from the WELS. Not that I want to
leave, but sadly ~ it has left me.
I received an interesting phone call this morning from a member
of Trinity Lutheran in Neenah (Pastor Englebrecht’s congregation) who I
will not identify. He was none too happy about my comments in support
of Mr. Techlin and seems to think that I am a “piece of work” to use his
exact words. Thanks for the pleasant conversation Mr. X. No morning is
complete without a good berating through my cell phone!
Dr. Aaron Palmer
With God all things are possible and it is my prayer that WELS
will take a hard look at the bad doctrines that are leading the synod
away from the Confessions, but more importantly the Scriptures. In
reality I am not at all confident in our situation based on what has
happened to Rick. Our issue is much deeper seeded with an unrelenting,
long and sordid past surrounding it. It is my honor to go with those
who have gone down before me standing on the truth of the Word.
Joe Krohn
Dr. Palmer,
When they squeal, you know you’re on the right path! From what I’ve
read from you, you are a “piece of work,” a good one! Rick, hang in
there!
Scott E. Jungen
Mr. Vik,
I will allow Luther to respond to this talking point about the eighth
commandment. I say talking point because I have heard almost the exact
statement you have made over and over again regarding this and other
similar issues:
“All this has been said regarding secret sins. But where the sin is
quite public so that the judge and everybody know it, you can without
any sin avoid him and let him go, because he has brought himself into
disgrace, and you may also publicly testify concerning him. For when a
matter is public in the light of day, there can be no slandering or
false judging or testifying; as, when we now reprove the Pope with his
doctrine, which is publicly set forth in books and proclaimed in all the
world. For where the sin is public, the reproof also must be public,
that every one may learn to guard against it.” (Luther’s Large
Catechism, 8th Commandment, Paragraph 284, http://www.bookofconcord.org / Concordia Triglotta).
I do not think any of us are commenting here or elsewhere out of an
evil desire to be vicious or spiteful, but stern words are sometimes
needed. Do not mistake indignation for malice.
Dr. Aaron Palmer
Matthew,
I hope that you are not using the 8th commandment as a veil for
indefensible doctrine and practice. I also pray that you think the best
of your brethren (cf. 1 Corinthians 13:7) and assume that we already
have contacted the individuals accused of these heinous crimes.
As tempting as it is to say what I want, I won’t. The Lord’s blessing to you.
Scott E. Jungen
Lord’s blessings to your and your family in these difficult times. I wish I had the power to do more than just offer encouragement.
Dr. Aaron Palmer
Those holding positions in our circuit, the Northern Wisconsin District and the synod level have abdicated their responsibility to preserve doctrinal purity. They have lost their credibility among some they are to serve. As enablers, those who allow the issues surrounding your situation to continue unresolved should be held accountable.
Tony Kubek Jr
Doesn’t that go straight to the top of the synod? To whom shall the case be appealed? A word or two directly from Pres. Schroeder is in order. To me alot is riding on this situation and that of the Krohn family in Texas. These being the two most prominent cases since you both graciously keep the rest of us informed via your blogs. How many other similar cases are out there now flying under the radar that we are not aware of, I wonder? To me, there is alot riding on the on the outcome that eventually must be addressed in some sort of a higher appeal. I think the synod leaders know the division and split that will be brought about should a definitive answer and so-called resolution be brought about. Although I’m not hopeful for anything to be resolved by the Synod in convention at the end of the month, these and matters like these should be top priority in my humble opinion. I’m just a one girl, but one girl whose entire family are life-long WELS members who have supported this synod in countless ways. Sad to say it but I am on the brink of removing my membership from the WELS. Not that I want to leave, but sadly ~ it has left me.
Dr. Aaron Palmer
Joe Krohn
When they squeal, you know you’re on the right path! From what I’ve read from you, you are a “piece of work,” a good one! Rick, hang in there!
Scott E. Jungen
thank you.
I will allow Luther to respond to this talking point about the eighth commandment. I say talking point because I have heard almost the exact statement you have made over and over again regarding this and other similar issues:
I do not think any of us are commenting here or elsewhere out of an evil desire to be vicious or spiteful, but stern words are sometimes needed. Do not mistake indignation for malice.
Dr. Aaron Palmer
I hope that you are not using the 8th commandment as a veil for indefensible doctrine and practice. I also pray that you think the best of your brethren (cf. 1 Corinthians 13:7) and assume that we already have contacted the individuals accused of these heinous crimes.