Mammonize it: LCMS at the White House:
'via Blog this'
Transforming Church Network promised to transform the synod and it did.
The Chicago Way is ---“Pay to Play”. Adjust the particulars (of conscience/faith) and sell out the folks for Money.
Funds are denied to those that will not adjust for the right social contract.
The LCMS NID adoption agency, recipient of taxpayer funds, placed children in same sex homes, (9-15-2011)---- that item conveniently disappeared into the memory hole.
ICHABOD, THE GLORY HAS DEPARTED - explores the Age of Apostasy, predicted in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, to attack Objective Faithless Justification, Church Growth Clowns, and their ringmasters. The antidote to these poisons is trusting the efficacious Word in the Means of Grace. John 16:8. Isaiah 55:8ff. Romans 10. Most readers are WELS, LCMS, ELS, or ELCA. This blog also covers the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Orthodoxy, and the Left-wing, National Council of Churches denominations.
Monday, November 7, 2011
Fox Valley Jimmie Anonymously Defends Anonymous Attacks
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| Fox Valley Jimmy |
Fox Valley Jimmy said... Jackson writes on his blog:
"This is a bit too obvious to mention - these sob-sisters have always posted anonymously, yet they attack people by name."
Huh?
So, it's cool to attack people anonymously on your blog (i.e, half the people who comment on your posts), but elsewhere it's immoral? Just like it's bad for people to get non-synodical degrees, except when you get one? Or how it's bad to slander people, except when half the stuff on your blog is a lie. Ok, I get it.
I look forward to the self-righteous and hypocritical response over at the Ichabode!
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GJ - I look forward to the page-read figures when the foxes and vixens of Appleton are busy writing.
Strangers to the WELS cult need to realize that the clergy think they have a right to engage in ad hominem attacks whenever their false doctrine is questioned. The readers who post on this blog like to address the issues of false doctrine, the purpose for this little Internet effort.
No one reads Ichabod, Appletonians agree. There were 2,000 page-reads today. I write all my own comments, they claim - which I means I took time to write 15,000 comments in the last few years, many of them coming (as if by magic) from Garland, Texas (hometown, Don Patterson, a co-inky-dink) and Appleton (the rotten CORE of WELS).
The Latin Professor Comments on WELS - Yes, He Is a WELS Pastor
This pusillanimous little church body doesn’t do much at all, and what she does, she doesn’t do very well, but a couple of things she does extremely well –
a.) brainwash her teachers and pastors into thinking that she is as perfect and clean as the wind-driven snows of northern Wisconsin, and
b.) punish severely and thoroughly anyone and everyone, sooner or later, who either refuses to be brainwashed thusly, or breaks free of the WELSian mind-control, or, even worse, breaks free and then, horror of horrors, encourages others to attempt to do so!
The Appleton Fakes Reveal Their Paucity of Common Sense, Reading Comprehension, and Logic.
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| When Appletonians pontificate, even the babies face palm. |
Jackson is now doing his typical thing of distracting from the real issue and claiming that I was justifying impersonation on this blog when I said that the fake-Brett Meyer quote was not slander. That is not true. IMPERSONATION IS WRONG. Let me be clear about that. My point was only that it was not slander. Slander is telling lies about someone in an attempt to make them look bad. My point was merely that whoever pretended to be Brett Meyer was not engaging in slander because they were not telling lies about his positions on things. Rather they were making him look bad by telling people what he normally says. Jackson as usual is simply changing the subject in order to distract from the real issue. Also, why does he have a picture of J.I. Packer? What does the LCMS' acceptance of the ESV have to do with any of this?
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GJ - Some people think that Joel Lillo is in on this. The Appleton gang are all peas in a pod, so it does not matter. WELS funded Church and Change because the leaders of Church and Change were synod officers. Oh, it is so much fun to spend other people's money.
Fox Valley was developed as an all Church and Change doctrinal slum. Steve Witte served two different congregations in the same area. How often does that happen? Ethical leaders avoid that, but ethical leaders are in short supply in these last days of an insane, old world.
The members and pastors sat on their hands, letting a brush fire turn into a forest fire. Now they are watching it burn down while their cluck their tongues.
Above is one of those self-absolving excuses that energize WELS. Impersonating someone is not just wrong - it is a crime. For some reason, that crime keeps happening with the same group of thugs. The post excuses the crime, even though the whole idea was to create a bad impression using the disguise of another person.
The pastors involved pretend not to know who is doing what, but that is typical GA double-talk. They were born forgiven, so that allows them to do whatever they want. No wonder the only doctrine they defend is their toxic UOJ opinion. Nothing gets a WELSian frothier than justification by faith. It is almost like transporting the Pharisees to the 21st century.
This is a bit too obvious to mention - these sob-sisters have always posted anonymously, yet they attack people by name. That is the template for the WELS Shrinkers. They hide behind their "WELS Grapevine" and drop stinkbombs on their fellow pastors - by name. They always use personal attacks. John Lawrenz did not like the Harold Sauer paper, so he said to me, "His parish is dead!" Meanwhile, Lawrenz was denouncing Sauer for "naming names." Of course, Sauer was naming the false teachers in WELS, the Church and Chicanery brotherhood. Sauer's paper was quite kindly, just as he was.
The WELS Grapevine said Corky criticized their precious Church Growth and amalgamation because he was "brain-damaged." The former seminary president, Schuetze, opposed closing NWC because "he was senile."
Luther Rocks: Calling All Saints.
Pietists Shun Joe Krohn
Luther Rocks: Calling All Saints:
When I started up this blog last May, my first post was a Youtube video of some goofballs at a concert on a hillside. Someone cleverly put a soundtrack to it as a primer on starting a movement. I saw some truth in that video and harnessed the idea of it to this blog as an encouragement for those struggling with the same issues in American Lutheranism. As you know for those who have followed the postings, I have chronicled my journey from experiences at Holy Word here in Austin which are not unlike many churches across America today who are incorporating the anti-gospel emergent church template into their ministries; i. e. church growth methods which come from an emphasis on works righteousness, decision theology and a need to transform the church into palatable consumption for today's society. Anyone who has bought into this program really is no different than those who support the Roman Catholic Papacy.
It all comes from the same place but from a different angle or perspective. Both are anthropocentric. Roman Catholicism displaces Christ as our mediator with Mary and the Pope. Modern day Evangelicalism displaces the Word (Christ) with programs for this and programs for that all meant to entice folks into church. They say 'people come to church for the wrong reasons and stay for the right reasons'. But what is that other than a bait and switch? Not only that, what it is really saying is 'you are all too stupid to understand His Word or realize that you are on the highway to hell and need Christ and you need us to school you'.
I posted on my FB wall a few months ago an abridged version of a saying: "Hell hath no fury as a pietist scorned." It upset a few folks and needless to say we are no longer FB friends. It wasn't like we hung out all the time anyway. But you see, that is the problem. Why did they get so angry? Because they have stolen the mission of the church and made it theirs instead of who it rightfully belongs to - Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit through the Means of Grace. So naturally they take it personally when you criticize this program or that method.
I recall vividly two instances; one at Crosswalk in early 2005 and one at Christ the Rock in spring of 2009. We were experiencing a shortage of musicians. Both pastors asked basically the same question...'so what is your plan for the ministry?' My answer was the same both times. 'I will wait until the Lord reveals His plan and go with that...until then we will make do.' The responses were similar. 'If this type of worship is going to work, we are going to need a full band.' Huh, I thought...and what about the efficacy of the Word? Pastor Harris of Trinity in Austin offered this saying in Bible class today by Robert Preus (we have been studying Genesis and the promises of God): 'How dare we presume whether the Church is winning or losing'. Wise words indeed.
The sermon in church today talked about the beatitudes...'blessed are they'. Another time in my life I would have thought it was me who would be blessed for doing these things. But try as I might, it really is too difficult to do any of them well all the time. In fact I loathe them most of the time. No, blessed am I to have a Savior who did all of these things for me already so that I can take credit for them even though I am still a sinner.
St. Iranaeus said, "The business of the Christian is nothing else than to ever be preparing for death."* St. Augustine called death "the instrument by which life is reached."** St. Luther said, "Therefore the life of a Christian, from Baptism to the grave, is nothing else than the beginning of a blessed death."***
Dear Lord, May we always be mindful to have our houses in order, so that we may give testimony for the hope that we have when given the opportunity. May we always be fully dependent upon your care of our souls and the one true Church on earth. In Jesus' name. Amen.
*Fragments, XI, ANF, I, 570 **City of God, NPNF, II, 247 ***LW, 31, 35
Sunday, November 6, 2011
Impersonation, Deceit, Lying - All Characteristics of UOJ
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| Packer, a Calvinist, is the senior editor of the ESV, which is promoted and sold by the orthodox LCMS. |
The fake blog continues to lead with a fake post from someone impersonating Brett Meyer. Brett has written them to say he did not write the post they are "quoting" with "a good laugh, but a sad laugh." Tim Glende, who probably writes his own comments, defended this illegal activity by claiming it was a good representation of Brett's thought.
Here is the slimy response from Anonymous:
Anonymous said...
I'm personally a little confused by the response of Brett Meyer and Jackson to what might or might not be a fake Brett Meyer quote on this blog.
Ok, it might be fake, right? But how is it slander? I mean, whoever put it down said all the same stuff the Brett usually says and even did weird-obsessive cutting-and-pasting thing with the BOC also.
Impersonation is defined as "The crime of pretending to be another individual in order to deceive others and gain some advantage."
Therefore, when it is clearly pointed out to the fake blog, the sponsors defend their crime as justified. No wonder Rick Techlin objected to deceit and plagiarism at St. Peter in Freedom, with Tim Glende and Ski in charge.
Every week Glende and Ski pretend to be Craig Groeschel or someone else. They are afraid to give their own sermons and do their own work.
Constant lying is the chief characteristic of UOP Stormtroopers. For instance, they brag about going to Fuller Seminary and then deny that fact when this is brought out into the open (Valleskey, Bivens, Olson). They deny being members and leaders of Church and Change (Don Patterson, Paustian) while attending the Chicanery conferences.
I hope Tim Glende continues to keep his criminal activities posted for the public to see. Some day the synodical lawyers will have a talk with him about their liability. He can only hide so much, given his proclivity for bragging.
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| Ski and Glende are cornucopias of Photoshop opportunities. Breaking news: "Ski wrote his own sermon last week! Video at 10." Feature story - "One of these is wearing a new Spanks, The Tiefel, designed to keep it from all hanging out."
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UOJers hahaha. Notice how they excuse themselves saying that they represented Brett's ideas even though they impersonated him. Notice how they justify the crime of impersonating someone else by claiming they posted what Brett said etc. This is down right antinomian. They do carry out the logical conclusion of their doctrine which is to excuse sin. LPC |
All Saints Sunday, 2011
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| Art by Norma Boeckler |
All Saints Sunday, 2011
Pastor Gregory L. Jackson
The Hymn # 656 Behold a Host 2:39
The Confession
of Sins
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual
The
Gospel
Glory be to
Thee, O Lord!
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
The Sermon
Hymn # 463 For All the Saints 4:31
To Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness
The Communion
Hymn # 371 Jesus Thy Blood 4:6
The Preface p.
24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn # 657 Beautiful Savior 4:24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn # 657 Beautiful Savior 4:24
KJV Revelation 7:2 And I saw
another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and
he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the
earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the
trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I
heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred
and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of
Israel. 5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe
of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed
twelve thousand. 6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of
the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of
Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. 7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed
twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of
the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. 8 Of the tribe of
Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed
twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand. 9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of
all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne,
and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And
cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the
throne, and unto the Lamb. 11 And all the angels stood round about the throne,
and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on
their faces, and worshipped God, 12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and
wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our
God for ever and ever. Amen. 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me,
What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 14 And I
said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came
out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in
the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and
serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall
dwell among them. 16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more;
neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. 17 For the Lamb which is in
the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living
fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
KJV Matthew 5:1 And seeing
the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples
came unto him: 2 And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3 Blessed are
the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are they
that mourn: for they shall be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek: for
they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and
thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 7 Blessed are the
merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart:
for they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be
called the children of God. 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for
righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye,
when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all
manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding
glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets
which were before you.
ALL SAINTS' DAY
O almighty and everlasting God, who through Thine
only-begotten and beloved Son, Jesus Christ, wilt sanctify all Thine elected
and beloved: Give us grace to follow their faith, hope, and charity, that we
together with them may obtain eternal life: through Thy Son, Jesus Christ, our
Lord, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world
without end. Amen.
To Hunger and Thirst for Righteousness
Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they
which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
The beatitudes are
remembered by all of us as a very special set of verses. Many have tried to
translate them better than the English Luther Bible (the KJV).
How happy… - awful.
Those who hunger and thirst
after righteousness are blessed… - misses the main point.
Robert Schuller wrote a book
called The Be-Happy Attitudes. That really sums up his entire ministry, now
overshadowed by Joel Osteen, and other grinning wolves.
The beatitudes are peaceful
and comforting, yet end with…
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye,
when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all
manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding
glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the
prophets which were before you.
The moderns do not like that
verse, because they shun the cross and all teaching about the cross. But there
it is plainly revealed – the Gospel is associated directly with persecution and
slander “for My sake”, just as it was in Old Testament times – and it is a
blessing.
We are inclined to say, “I
am sorry your congregation kicked you out, said you had lost your faith, and
refused to listen to you or even hear your questions.”
Jesus says, “Blessed are
you…”
We have a very smart and
independent dog named Sassy Sue. She barked at our earthquake and warned us,
although we did not know what the commotion was. When I take her to the post
office, and turn left, she looks at me. She knows the dog park is a right turn.
Whenever I do something contrary to her expectations, she looks at me and
questions me. If I send all the dogs out to the deck, she stops twice to look
at me. She is saying, “Not me, just them. Right?”
So the entire Christian
Church has always questioned this. We are moved and inspired by examples from
the past, such as Luther kidnapped and locked up to keep him from being burnt
at the stake. To this day falsehoods about him are published as the truth. So
we say, “That is our hero, the Reformer.” And if we get punched in the mouth,
as Luther said we must, for the sake of the Gospel, we say, “Not me, just them.
Right? I am supposed to have smooth sailing.”
This is directly related to
the key verse, Matthew 5:6
Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they
which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
As Luther taught, there are
only two kinds of righteous – righteousness from within (based on our works) or
righteousness from the outside (based on Christ alone).
Jesus’ mission was to teach
faith in Him, so he accepted the consequences of taking away the righteousness
based on human works – the cross. They did revile and torture Him for healing
the sick or raising the dead. They did not crucify Him for His kindness to
widows and the poor. They raged against Him for saying, “Forgiveness comes from
trusting only in Me. It is not your righteousness, but My righteousness that
you need.”
The wrong righteousness
always explodes in claims about works. When I questioned the conservative groups
working with ELCA while criticizing ELCA, one ELS pastor phoned me and yelled,
“Do you realize how hard I have worked to get congregations to join us?”
When the feminist editor of
The Northwestern Lutheran came under scrutiny for her views, many responded,
“Do you know how much her family has done for the synod?”
Pastors have said to me, “I
did this!” I kidded one who oriented the entire worship area to face another
direction, “Now you can say – I turned this church around!” He really liked
that claim. It was superficially truthful and delightfully misleading.
Few are the leaders who say
with Lenski (once a district president) – “Programs come and go, but the only
thing that builds up the church is the Word.” How many leaders say that today?
None. Not a single one.
This is strange to me, since
my father was a baker and both parents grew up on a farm – Lutherans love to
brag about their relatives, claiming an associated righteousness. They assume
that I know who all the minor stars of their minor sects are, so they name them
and wait for me to gasp in amazement. I should say, “You are his grandson!”
Denominational history (all denominations) that the children of famous church
workers are often the worst characters, like trust fund babies, living off the
work of their ancestors.
The problem with works
righteousness is that it kills the appetite for true righteousness. I always
wondered as a child why appetizers filled people up and yet were called
appetizers. I thought they were appetite-killers, except my appetite was hard
to kill in those days. Besides, I found most offerings less than appetizing –
salty fish eggs on a dry cracker. What did I do to deserve this?
Therefore, to take away the
satisfaction of works-righteousness, Jesus said, “You are not righteous. You
are white-washed tombs full of dead men’s bones.” (Not loving? Just the
opposite.)
The works-salesmen had a lot
of trouble with their foundation in life being yanked out from under them. The
more trained they were in the religion of the time, the more they resisted
Jesus. They hated His message and tried to trap Him. The first three Gospels
show the hatred, and John 9 shows how comical it could be (truly one of the
funny chapters of the Bible – the Keystone Kops chapter).
That is still true today –
the clergy and the theologians are the ones who resist the Gospel the most.
They want to interpose their philosophies and say, in effect, “I will follow
the form that I have constructed in my mind. The plain words must be turned
into complicated concepts that only a few of us can understand.”
Nevertheless, there is only
one Gospel. The most terrible and effective use of the Law is to say, following
John 16:8 – “You do not believe, and that is a sin. That is not only a sin, but
the foundational sin upon which all others sins are based.”
Jesus taught, The Holy
Spirit will convict the world of sin – because they do not utterly trust in Me.
(Jackson Living Bible Translation)
Sin is not believing. Faith
in Jesus is forgiveness.
I go through Sam’s Club on
tasting days. The best time is before lunch, when I am hungry. They usually
have around 10 stations, where meat and bread and ice cream are offered. I
tried some fresh mixed nuts one day and said, “Hmm. I am still deciding. I need
another cup.” The woman laughed and gave me another one.
However, if I go after
lunch, all those complicated chemicals in the body have taken over and removed
the appetite for anything. The food which looks attractive is odious.
The best meal we ever ate –
we still talk about it. We were driving in our frozen van on a cold night, when
everything was closed. We were shivering and hungry. We stopped at our favorite
Chinese restaurant, but too late. They were closing. All they could do was give
us a big tub rice and eggs and two plastic forks. We sat in the car, eating the
food, which was quite good, but leveraged by the cold and our famished state.
Every bite was delicious and satisfying.
Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they
which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Someone recently asked,
“What does justification mean?”
That word borrows a term
from the legal system. When we believe in Christ, we are justified by faith in
Him. God judges us free from all sin, because we receive in faith the
righteousness of Christ.
We hunger and thirst for
righteousness when we deal with the consequences of our sin and our need for
forgiveness.
We hunger and thirst when we
encounter many false claims about forgiveness and salvation. False teachers
lead us through error’s maze.
People mock those who
cherish justification by faith. They say, “Weren’t you Mormon, then Catholic,
then Pentecostal, then one Lutheran and then another?”
In fact, those who have
sought the truth in many places are the ones who value the plain words of the
Gospel the most. They have been knocked around so much that they know where
certainty lies. They hear the voice of the Shepherd, who knows them by name.
And they follow.
On All Saints Sunday we
remember those believers who have died before us – as saints in the Biblical
sense. They became righteousness through faith in the Good Shepherd, who led
them to green pastures.
KJV Psalm 23:1 {A Psalm of
David.}
The LORD is my
shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down
in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he
leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through
the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with
me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table
before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my
cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy
shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the
LORD for ever.
Quotations
"But when we are speaking of the subject itself, it is
certain that the doctrine of gracious reconciliation, of the remission of sins,
of righteousness, salvation, and eternal life through faith for the sake of the
Mediator is one and the same in the Old and in the New Testament. This is a
useful rule which we must retain at all costs: The doctrine, wherever we read
it, in either the Old or New Testament, which deals with the gracious
reconciliation and the remission of sins through faith for the sake of God's
mercy in Christ, is the Gospel."
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p.
459.
"Therefore God, 'who is rich in mercy' [Ephesians 2:4], has
had mercy upon us and has set forth a propitiation through faith in the blood
of Christ, and those who flee as suppliants to this throne of grace He absolves
from the comprehensive sentence of condemnation, and by the imputation of the
righteousness of His Son, which they grasp in faith, He pronounces them
righteous, receives them into grace, and adjudges them to be heirs of eternal
life. This is certainly the judicial meaning of the word 'justification,' in
almost the same way that a guilty man who has been sentenced before the bar of
justice is acquitted."
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p. 482.
Ephesians 2:4
"Yet these exercises of faith always presuppose, as their
foundation, that God is reconciled by faith, and to this they are always led
back, so that faith may be certain and the promise sure in regard to these
other objects. This explanation is confirmed by the brilliant statement of Paul
in 2 Corinthians 1:20: 'All the promises of God in Christ are yea and amen, to
the glory of God through us,' that is, the promises concerning other objects of
faith have only then been ratified for us when by faith in Christ we are
reconciled with God. The promises have been made valid on the condition that
they must give glory to God through us."
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p. 495.
2 Corinthians 1:20
"Therefore this apprehension or acceptance or application of
the promise of grace is the formal cause or principle of justifying faith,
according to the language of Scripture."
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p.
502.
"We must note the foundations. For we are justified by faith,
not because it is so firm, robust, and perfect a vritue, but because of the
object on which it lays hold, namely Christ, who is the Mediator in the promise
of grace. Therefore when faith does not err in its object, but lays hold on
that true object, although with a weak faith, or at least tries and wants to
lay hold on Christ, then there is true faith, and it justifies. The reason for
this is demonstrated in those lovely statements in Philippians 3:12: 'I
apprehend, or rather I am apprehended by Christ' and Galatians 4:9: 'You have
known God, or rather have been known by God.' Scripture shows a beautiful
example of this in Mark 9:24: 'I believe; help my unbelief.'"
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p. 503.
Philippians 3:12; Galatians 4:9; Mark 9:24.
"For we are not justified because of our faith (propter
fidem), in the sense of faith being a virtue or good work on our part.
Thuse we pray, as did the man in Mark 9:24: 'I believe, Lord; help my
unbelief'; and with the apostles: 'Lord, increase our faith,' Luke 17:5."
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p. 506
Mark 9:24; Luke 17:5.
"But because not doubt but faith justifies, and not he who
doubts but he who believes has eternal life, therefore faith teaches the free promise,
which relies on the mercy of God for the sake of the sacrifice of the Son, the
Mediator, and not on our works, as Paul says in Romans 4:16: 'Therefore it is
of faith, that the promise might be sure according to grace.'"
Martin Chemnitz, Loci Theologici, 2 vols.,
trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1989, II, p. 507.
Romans 4:16
"Thus when we say that we are justified by faith, we are
saying nothing else than that for the sake of the Son of God we receive
remission of sins and are accounted as righteous. And because it is necessary
that this benefit be taken hold of, this is said to be done 'by faith,' that
is, by trust in the mercy promised us for the sake of Christ. Thus we must also
understand the correlative expression, 'We are righteous by faith,' that is,
through the mercy of God for the sake of His Son we are righteous or accepted."
Melanchthon, Loci Communes, “The Word
Faith.” Cited in Martin Chemnitz, Loci
Theologici, 2 vols., trans. J. A. O. Preus, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing
House, 1989, II, p. p. 489.
American Catholics prep for new Mass translation - Yahoo! News.
Did These Yahoos Graduate from Mequon?
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American Catholics prep for new Mass translation - Yahoo! News:
Many clergy are upset by the new language, calling it awkward and hard to understand. The Rev. Tom Iwanowski, pastor of St. Joseph Roman Catholic Church in Oradell and New Milford, N.J., turned to the section of the new missal that calls funeral rites, "the fraternal offices of burial."
"How can I say those words? It doesn't make sense," said Iwanowski, who has been a priest for 36 years. "It separates religion from real life."
In the new translation, in the Nicene Creed, the phrase "one in Being with the Father," will change to "consubstantial with the Father." When a priest prays over the Holy Communion bread and wine, he will ask God for blessings "by sending down your spirit upon them like the dewfall."
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Saturday, November 5, 2011
C. F. W. Walther - The 200th Anniversary Deception.
WELS Member Asks for a Walther Icon.
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Narrow-minded Lutheran has left a new comment on your post "C. F. W. Walther - The 200th Anniversary Deception...":
What is really confusing is the melding of two heresies. We were all forgiven at the cross(Universalism), yet we have to make a decision to accept it (Arminianism). What's wrong with Scripture and BOC? Christ atoned for the world's sin at the cross. The Holy Ghost gives the sinner Faith in the Gospel through Word and Sacrament. It's no wonder the Synodical Conference is imploding. They call themselves Lutherans, yet practice Crypto-Calvinism, Arminianism, and Anabaptism.
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GJ - Narrow-minded, when someone understands the efficacy of the Word in the Means of Grace, these deviations stand out like a bug moving in a bowl of raspberries and cream.
This amalgamation of heresies shows that:
- Basic education in Lutheran doctrine is missing, all the way up to the leadership levels.
- The clergy are only being attracted to like-minded individuals - Pietists like Groeschel and Andy Stanley, Babtists like Rick Warren, Universalists like Leonard Sweet.
- Those initiated in the UOJ cult are almost invulnerable to exegesis and the Confessions, since they always start with Huber/Knapp/Wallther assumptions. That seems to be the core of seminary training, except for "We are the greatest and most orthodox Lutheran synod ever. Repeat. We are the greatest and most orthodox Lutheran body ever. Repeat."
AC V has left a new comment on your post "C. F. W. Walther - The 200th Anniversary Deception...":
Regardless of which proof texts are used, the question is: "Do you have/own/possess the forgiveness of your sins without faith?" UOJ says, "Yes, but it doesn't do you any good unless you have faith" Scripture and the BoC says, "No, you do not have/own/possess the forgiveness of your sins except by faith alone through the gospel in Word and Sacrament."
The UOJ-er would say, "We have Subjective Justification, so what's the big deal?" The big deal is that when UOJ is emphasized over so-called Subjective Justification, which UOJ always does because it is considered in WELS to be THE gospel, then either you have confusion because of the terms or more likely - and this is what we're seeing - heretical practices that turn the sacraments into ordinances (i.e. "we're just remembering the forgiveness that Christ gave us on the cross 2,000 years ago") and the Ministry of the Keys into powerless words (i.e. "an unbeliever locks himself out of heaven" [Oct. 6, 2011 Meditations devotion] and "you must forgive your unrepentant, abusive husband because Jesus did a la UOJ.")
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GJ - In every case - Richard Jungkuntz as the prime example - justification without faith becomes the Gospel, God's grace, and all things bright and beautiful.
Jungkuntz, who feared the loss of UOJ in WELS, dishonestly promoted the historical-critical method at Northwestern College, moved on to Springfield and the LCMS doctrinal board for the same mission, and chaired the first gay seminary in America - Seminex, the official seminary for the Metropolitan Community Church. They even had a homosexual professor - Deppe.
The Seminex professors moved to the Lutheran School of Theology (ELCA) in Chicago, making it even more radical.
People need to understand the beginnings of UOJ and also where it ends up.
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LutherRocks has left a new comment on your post "C. F. W. Walther - The 200th Anniversary Deception...":
I was wondering if you guys felt the earthquake up your way. They said it was felt in Joplin.
Seems things are getting worse at HW too. A member who solos there frequently and who has not shunned me on FB posted a vid of what he will be singing today. The song is crocked full of works and decision theology.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxB80fgTnDE&feature=related
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Quiet WELsian et. al.
The issue is not grammer etc. We are discussing my comment at the Real Icahabod. It will be to your advantage to skip the ad hominem on Dr. Jackson. That is, if you want to take the high moral ground for which you criticise him for having less.
I do not check my grammar most times because when I comment, a.) I am usually in a hurry b.) I only check my grammar if I am writing a paper for an international conference etc. There I have no choice but to waste time in that exercise.
The real issue is this God does not merely passively foreknow that he will create faith in us, but he makes a decision to predestine us from the foundation of the world as Ephesian says. He cannot have passive knowledge of something he will do, since he must actively decides to cause faith in the believer
Then you can answer my question , on what basis does God predestine a person, is it according to Decree?
A simple yes or no will do.
Personally, I believe that Walther and Waltherians made a serious blunder in engaging in predestinarian controversy that was present during Walther's era.
Also It is clear to me that you are not very familiar with his (Walther's)theology. I would encourage you to read the man on your own and not listen to Jackson on him or anything else for that matter
I have read and re-read his Law and Gospel and I have read his essays. I do not care if I have not read all of his work, I am satisfied that in what I have read I have compelling evidence that he was a.) responsible for the synodical fragmentation of Lutheranism in USA, b.) He was a Huberite and a quasi-Universalist, c.) He absolutely was not familiar that Calvinism is not only an ism - it is actually a rational paradigm in which he fell.
Walther and Waltherians are actually Calvinistic in paradigm. The Calvinism sneaked in through Pietism. That is my contention about you UOJers.
So let me cut to the chase that I might understand your position
What do you teach is the basis of predestination? Does God predestine people according to his decree?
LPC
The issue is not grammer etc. We are discussing my comment at the Real Icahabod. It will be to your advantage to skip the ad hominem on Dr. Jackson. That is, if you want to take the high moral ground for which you criticise him for having less.
I do not check my grammar most times because when I comment, a.) I am usually in a hurry b.) I only check my grammar if I am writing a paper for an international conference etc. There I have no choice but to waste time in that exercise.
The real issue is this God does not merely passively foreknow that he will create faith in us, but he makes a decision to predestine us from the foundation of the world as Ephesian says. He cannot have passive knowledge of something he will do, since he must actively decides to cause faith in the believer
Then you can answer my question , on what basis does God predestine a person, is it according to Decree?
A simple yes or no will do.
Personally, I believe that Walther and Waltherians made a serious blunder in engaging in predestinarian controversy that was present during Walther's era.
Also It is clear to me that you are not very familiar with his (Walther's)theology. I would encourage you to read the man on your own and not listen to Jackson on him or anything else for that matter
I have read and re-read his Law and Gospel and I have read his essays. I do not care if I have not read all of his work, I am satisfied that in what I have read I have compelling evidence that he was a.) responsible for the synodical fragmentation of Lutheranism in USA, b.) He was a Huberite and a quasi-Universalist, c.) He absolutely was not familiar that Calvinism is not only an ism - it is actually a rational paradigm in which he fell.
Walther and Waltherians are actually Calvinistic in paradigm. The Calvinism sneaked in through Pietism. That is my contention about you UOJers.
So let me cut to the chase that I might understand your position
What do you teach is the basis of predestination? Does God predestine people according to his decree?
LPC
Jerry Sandusky, Former Coach At Penn State, Is Charged With Abuse - NYTimes.com
Thirteen years of abuse - first two Penn State locker room cases - 1998.
Jerry Sandusky, Former Coach At Penn State, Is Charged With Abuse - NYTimes.com:
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GJ - Hang the enablers by their thumbs. This story is too atrocious to copy any of the content.
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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Jerry Sandusky, Former Coach At Penn State, Is Cha...":
There are similarities between this grotesque account and the (W)ELS clergy who, contrary to the Synod's official false doctrine of Universal Objective Justification, reject UOJ and confess solely justification by faith alone (JBFA) but turn a blind eye when faithful Christian families are excommunicated from their Synod for staying faithful to JBFA.
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GJ - Corruption of doctrine also means corruption of behavior. WELS, Missouri, and the Little Sect turn a blind eye to many kinds of abuse against their own members. WELS lied to the court when a minor girl sued Fred Adrian's congregation and WELS for being seduced by the married vicar. The judge issued WELS an order from the bench to tell the truth about many other scandals. (Lying to the court is perjury, a felony.)
DP Robert Mueller and VP Paul Kuske were deeply offended by the notion that they should not place a known wolf (doctrine and behavior) in a flock, but they did it anyway. The Michigan District is just bursting at the seams with people who want their wives and daughters violated by the clergy.
The Michigan District is very mission-oriented. If a pastor drives his car into a light pole in a drunken stupor, he is sent to Russia, where no one is supposed to notice.
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The questions asked in this article could be asked of the Wisconsin Synod, especially the Michigan District. The pastors who pretended not to know are still in leadership positions, including DP Seifert.
When will the District Presidents step down? Church is almost as important as football. Except for the antinomians in WELS, there are still rules.
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Jerry Sandusky's autobiography, 'Touched,' is still available at The Penn State Bookstore
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2011/11/jerry_sanduskys_autobiography.html
These Luther Quotations Are Copied
From One of the Most Read Posts
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Trials
"One Christian who has been tried is worth a hundred who have not been tried, for the blessing of God grows in trials. He who has experienced them can teach, comfort, and advise many in bodily and spiritual matters."
Martin Luther, What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, III, p. 1381. Genesis 27:28-29.
"In order to keep your faith pure, do nothing else than stand still, enjoy its blessings, accept Christ's works, and let him bestow His love upon you. You must be blind, lame, deaf, dead, leprous and poor, otherwise you will stumble at Christ. That Gospel which suffers Christ to be seen and to be doing good only among the needy, will not belie you."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, I, p. 110. Third Sunday in Advent. Matthew 11:2-10.
"We have the comfort of this victory of Christ--that He maintains His Church against the wrath and power of the devil; but in the meantime we must endure such stabs and cruel wounds from the devil as are necessarily painful to our flesh and blood. The hardest part is that we must see and suffer all these things from those who call themselves the people of God and the Christian Church. We must learn to accept these things calmly, for neither Christ nor the saints have fared better."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 263. Sunday after Ascension, Exaudi. John 15:26-16:4.
"Therefore God must lead us to a recognition of the fact that it is He who puts faith in our heart and that we cannot produce it ourselves. Thus the fear of God and trust in Him must not be separated from one another, for we need them both, in order that we may not become presumptuous and overconfident, depending upon ourselves. This is one of the reasons why God leads His saints through such great trials."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 21. First Sunday after Epiphany. Luke 2:41-52.
"Secondly, God permits His saints to suffer these trials as an example for others, both to alarm the carnally secure and to comfort the timid and alarmed...But when we see and hear that God has in like manner dealt with His saints and did not spare even His own mother, we have the knowledge and comfort that we need not despair in our trials, but remain quiet and wait until He helps us, even as He has helped all His saints."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 40f. First Sunday after Epiphany, Second Sermon. Luke 2:41-52.
"Now it is the consolation of Christians, and especially of preachers, to be sure and ponder well that when they present and preach Christ, that they must suffer persecution, and nothing can prevent it; and that it is a very good sign of the preaching being truly Christian, when they are thus persecuted, especially by the great, the saintly, the learned and the wise."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 97. Fourth Sunday after Epiphany. Matthew 8:23-27.
"Not only is Christ hidden from the world, but a still harder thing is it that in such trials Christ conceals himself even from His church, and acts as if He had forgotten, aye, had entirely forsaken and rejected it, since He permits it to be oppressed under the cross and subjected to all the cruelty of the world, while its enemies boast, glory and rejoice over it, as we shall hear in the next Gospel."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 67. Second Sunday after Easter. John 10:11-16.
"There is another temptation also in the time of trouble which was punished severely among the people of Israel and which alas is common as compared to the other temptation and equally irrational. That temptation occurs before God's Word is heard; this after we hear the Word, namely thus: when we know that God has promised help in the time of any trouble, but are not content with it, go forward and will not abide His promise, but prescribe time, place, and manner for His help; and then if He does not come as we expect and desire, faith vanishes."
Martin Luther, Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, I, p. 366. Epiphany. Matthew 2:1-12.
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GJ - These comforting quotations are far removed from the self-centered bragging of the Evan-jellyfish, who are spineless and poisonous. For a time large crowds gather to hear them boast about their great success, creating a fake sense of intimacy with their audiences. Like Schuller and Osteen, their faces grow into the mask they assume for broadcasts.
Why are the "conservative" Lutheran seminaries turning out clones of Schuller, Osteen, Driscoll, and Groeschel?
Answer - the schools are charging a fortune in tuition to turn their students against Biblical, Lutheran doctrine. Fraudulent professors turn out fake Lutheran pastors.
Proof That the Olde Synodical Conference Was,
And Continues To Be, Pietistic
The marks (notae) of Pietism are obvious:
- Cell groups are the real church while the congregation is a convenient gathering place for groups.
- Shunning.
- Doctrinal indifference and unionism.
- Halle University, the mother ship, created to promote the movement.
Fill in the blank in the following sentences, to test your Pietism I.Q.
Bishop Martin Stephan was a _______ who attended Halle University, gloried in his cell group ministry, and founded the Missouri Synod.
C.F.W. Walther was a ______ who belonged to a Holy Club and associated with Martin Stephan, usurping the leadership role while continuing the ______ cell groups for many years.
J.K.W. Loehe was influenced by the Reformed and attended the University of Berlin. Influenced by the writing of Hollaz, Loehe emphasized the Confessions, Holy Communion, and the pastoral office. The Loehe missionaries invited the Perryville ______s to join them in forming a synod. Loehe's man started the Ft. Wayne seminary, but Loehe was shunned and erased from LCMS history because he was not a ______.
Adoph Hoenecke was a ______ who graduated from Halle University, but his study of the Confessions watered down the ______ influence after graduation. He joined the ______ Wisconsin Synod, which was started by a unionistic mission society.
The Little Sect on the Prairie came from the ______ Norwegian tradition, which is why they are hotter than Georgia asphalt for UOJ.
Today ELCA teaches UOJ, with an emphasis on universal absolution, promoting cell groups and unionism, because they are also from the ______ tradition.
Answers to the above test - the correct word for every single blank is Pietist.
The Olde Synodical Conference Pietists Today
- They refuse to allow doctrinal discussions, because they hate the Confessions and embrace doctrinal indifference.
- They love Church Growth and Emergent Church because both forms of Enthusiasm promote cell groups, the real church in their eyes.
- Liturgical worship and Biblical sermons are disappearing because Pietists always favor unLutheran worship.
- If a pastor or layman wants to discuss doctrine, that person is shunned and insulted, along with his family members. Anyone who persists in questioning Pietism is expelled as a "trouble-maker" or worse.
- The pastors go along with this abuse because they are afraid of being shunned and expelled.
- The LCMS, WELS, and ELS happily work with ELCA because they share the same doctrinal foundation - UOJ - and the same repudiation of the Scriptures. Nevertheless, they act holier than thou because Pietists need to keep up appearances. What is more fun than denouncing ELCA while grabbing funds for working with them?
- The three Bibles promoted by the Conference partners are: LCMS - the Calvinist ESV; WELS - the Universalist porno-mytho-NIV; ELS - the Babtist NKJV.
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The effects of doctrinal indifference are severe. On one hand most (W)ELSians will avoid any discussion of doctrine where Scripture and the Confessions are the sole arbiters. On the other hand they will gladly enter into a doctrinal discussion when everything is open to consideration and no interpretation is condemned. An example would be the so-called Bible studies where everyone shares what the verse or chapter means to them and the Pastor, layman or laywoman leading the group simply acknowledges each opinion as a viable alternative.
The result over time is abhorrent to anyone who holds God's Word as the supreme authority and not open to personal interpretation. A prime example is the Synod President's brother, Pastor Neal Schroeder's question at the 2011 Emmaus Conference in Washington state. He asked the Synodical CEO's whether the Lutheran church should continue to teach that God works solely through the Word purely taught and Sacraments rightly distributed. He proposed that God also works through the Word impurely taught and Sacraments wrongly distributed. He had an Eastern European example to fortify his position which he admitted was contrary to the historic Lutheran confession. A few LCMS pastors mumbled, "no,no, no" but most of the attendees had no reaction and simply waited to see if there was a counterpoint from the Synod presidents.
It is a subjective determination as to how far down the road to utter apostasy the (W)ELS has gone. But the appalling lack of public repudiation for all of the unChristian and anti-Lutheran doctrine and practice which is running rampant speaks volumes to the speed at which they are making the journey.
2 Peter 1:20-21, Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
The effects of doctrinal indifference are severe. On one hand most (W)ELSians will avoid any discussion of doctrine where Scripture and the Confessions are the sole arbiters. On the other hand they will gladly enter into a doctrinal discussion when everything is open to consideration and no interpretation is condemned. An example would be the so-called Bible studies where everyone shares what the verse or chapter means to them and the Pastor, layman or laywoman leading the group simply acknowledges each opinion as a viable alternative.
The result over time is abhorrent to anyone who holds God's Word as the supreme authority and not open to personal interpretation. A prime example is the Synod President's brother, Pastor Neal Schroeder's question at the 2011 Emmaus Conference in Washington state. He asked the Synodical CEO's whether the Lutheran church should continue to teach that God works solely through the Word purely taught and Sacraments rightly distributed. He proposed that God also works through the Word impurely taught and Sacraments wrongly distributed. He had an Eastern European example to fortify his position which he admitted was contrary to the historic Lutheran confession. A few LCMS pastors mumbled, "no,no, no" but most of the attendees had no reaction and simply waited to see if there was a counterpoint from the Synod presidents.
It is a subjective determination as to how far down the road to utter apostasy the (W)ELS has gone. But the appalling lack of public repudiation for all of the unChristian and anti-Lutheran doctrine and practice which is running rampant speaks volumes to the speed at which they are making the journey.
2 Peter 1:20-21, Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Friday, November 4, 2011
Bruce Church Describes Another Sobbing, But Not Starving Pastor
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Schuller family food insecurity reminds me of a WELS pastor whose salary was cut by $5,000, from $44,000 to $39,000 per year, but yet he got free medical and stayed free at parsonage, and his wife had a great job, too. Then he was complaining about food insecurity during announcements after a church service, wondering where he'd get the money to buy groceries. The members at that point all got food insecurity, too, but not of the same kind. They felt they were about to lose their breakfast!
His pay got cut for not doing evangelism. Also, one could add that he's the one that drove his kids all over the place for school, soccer, hockey, YMCA, etc. In other words, he was being soccer mom instead of his wife doing that, and no pastor can afford the time for that.
I have said before the pastor got docked $4,000, but that was in error. I realize it was $5,000. I just spit out a figure without doing the simple math. Oops!
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GJ - To pay rent on a house, one would have to earn about $1200 a month to net $900 a month for rent. Free utilities are worth another $500 a month (gross). Employees get medical coverage but business owners pay a fortune for their own; nevertheless, medical coverage is worth a lot. With his wife earning a good salary and benefits, the couple is earning $100,000 a year with many tax advantages. Meanwhile, the congregation is paying a fortune for the husband to be the wife and take care of the domestic chores.
ChurchMouse on the University of Notre Dame
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Joe, I have read your ongoing story here on Ichabod and offer my humble prayers for you and your family. I cannot imagine what you folks are going through. Rest assured, God's grace will guide you to a better church home in time.
As to Notre Dame, with apologies to Dr Jackson, I can speak only with assurance about what goes on at the Golden Dome. If these bizarre events have been observed (questionable), then they would appear to be a warning.
Seven years ago, the university invited Tarik Ramadan to be a guest professor for a semester. He had some visa problems which prevented that happening. A number of ND professors were outraged. Meanwhile, the French newspaper Le Monde -- left-of-centre -- featured a number of articles detailing why Ramadan had to exile himself to Switzerland. His views were too extreme for the French government, which was, at the time, seeking to build new mosques for a growing Muslim population.
Back at ND, and on a more mundane scale, a number of things have occurred on campus over the past 40+ years which are, frankly, not befitting our Lord Jesus Christ -- or His mother. This includes acts by students, faculty and alumni.
Feel free, Dr Jackson, not to publish this, but if there are weird things happening -- which I doubt on a rational level (however interesting the accounts) -- they might be 'appearing' to those who have a need for repentance.
I would not recommend that university to anyone.
Churchmouse
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GJ - I am happy to publish this. I have been following events at Notre Dame for decades, and I have reported on them. Two of the homosexual worship professors were atheists, and one of them was likely murdered, with the crime scene cleaned up by the future president of ND, an ethics professor.
I thought giving an honorary degree to Obama was ND's low point, because of Obama's virulent pro-abortion stance. The "conservative" Lutherans are just as hypocritical, working with Thrivent and ELCA. Appleton is headquarters for Church and Change, and for Thrivent.
The traditionalists say that the Notre Dame board is simply money-minded and completely apostate. Two of my fellow theology students (Roman Catholics) were disgusted that I believed in the Virgin Birth of Christ and His actual resurrection. One is teaching at a Catholic college today. The other is president of a famous Catholic college.
The world-wide state of Christian apostasy is the reason for this blog. The apostates do not want me to write about them.
"When the Son of Man returns, will He find faith?"
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Bankrupt church wants donations for pastor’s sick wife ferried in limo | The Lookout - Yahoo! News
Bankrupt church wants donations for pastor’s sick wife ferried in limo | The Lookout - Yahoo! News:
Some members of a bankrupt Orange County, Calif. megachurch are expressing outrage after fielding an email request for congregants to deliver food to waiting limos so that it can ferried to the founder's sick wife. The appeal comes weeks after a lawsuit charged that the founder of the Crystal Cathedral house of worship, Rev. Robert Schuller, and his family had been paying themselves lavish salaries and other benefits while the church was in financial straits.
"They've completely depleted the church's funds," one member, Bob Canfield, told the Orange County Register. "But they have shown that they have absolutely no remorse for what they've done. They're still being chauffeured around in limos. We, the congregants, have nothing."
An email sent recently by Crystal Cathedral administrators said that Schuller and his wife, Arvella, "would appreciate meals over the next three to four weeks." It added: "They are to be sent to the church in order to be transported to Arvella. The limo drivers could pick up the dinners or meet in the Tower Lobby around 4:30 p.m."
Arvella Schuller has been suffering from pneumonia, and the email asked that the food be low in sodium and include items such as fruit, meat, soup and eggs.
Crystal Cathedral Ministries filed for bankruptcy last month. A lawsuit filed by creditors alleges thatthe Schullers borrowed more than $10 million from the church's endowment fund, and used it for salaries and regular church expenses.
"R.H. Schuller used his control and influence to cause the [cathedral] to enter into the agreements that benefitted himself and his family, to the detriment of the creditors and in breach of his fiduciary duties" to the church, the suit charges.
A spokesman for the church, John Charles, said the food request was in keeping with the church's commitment to Christian charity. "As Dr. Schuller always says, 'Find a need and fill it,'" he said. "I think that's what we were trying to do here."
But Canfield sees things differently. "These are millionaires who have limos and chauffeurs," he said. "Why in God's name would they want the congregants to deliver meals? It's ludicrous."
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One wonders why such a once thriving church as Schuller's seems now to be crumbling.
A church that once filled a drive-in theater, then a huge glass sanctuary along with world wide television exposure is now failing.
It was all about Schuller. One had to send his money to him, via Hour of Power.
Jeske seems to speak more of our state as sinners, and of Christ, and Him crucified. YET, Jeske never refers the watchers of Time of Grace to their local W/ELS pastors/congregations for further instruction/information. Doesn't this mean that one is to go only to Jeske through Time of Grace? This is different from Schuller/Hour of Power how?
Jeske certainly has no mega church in Milwaukee. One wonders whether this fact doesn't show all the more that Time of Grace is all about him.
Maybe folks are realizing that the message that they are receiving from some has nothing whatsoever to do with their salvation and are bolting.
One wonders why such a once thriving church as Schuller's seems now to be crumbling.
A church that once filled a drive-in theater, then a huge glass sanctuary along with world wide television exposure is now failing.
It was all about Schuller. One had to send his money to him, via Hour of Power.
Jeske seems to speak more of our state as sinners, and of Christ, and Him crucified. YET, Jeske never refers the watchers of Time of Grace to their local W/ELS pastors/congregations for further instruction/information. Doesn't this mean that one is to go only to Jeske through Time of Grace? This is different from Schuller/Hour of Power how?
Jeske certainly has no mega church in Milwaukee. One wonders whether this fact doesn't show all the more that Time of Grace is all about him.
Maybe folks are realizing that the message that they are receiving from some has nothing whatsoever to do with their salvation and are bolting.
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Let's see if Daniel Baker gets deleted/banned at ToG:
Time of Grace
Pastor Jeske is in the studio today taping some great videos to help you prepare your hearts for Christmas. Can you think of 3 people who you will share Christ-mas with this year? Stay tuned for more tools on sharing this amazing message of peace and joy!
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Daniel Baker
I think a great way to "prepare" during this Adventide is to make use of the gift of private Confession and Absolution. We don't often think of it as such, but it is rightly considered a sacrament in the Lutheran Church and its gifts of Spirit-given repentance and forgiveness beautifully compliment the penitential season of Advent. Coupled with frequent reception of the Holy Supper and hearing the Proclaimed Gospel during the Divine Service, what better Means are there to "prepare the way" for the King of Kings than Those that He has given us!? 3 hours ago
Let's see if Daniel Baker gets deleted/banned at ToG:
Time of Grace
Pastor Jeske is in the studio today taping some great videos to help you prepare your hearts for Christmas. Can you think of 3 people who you will share Christ-mas with this year? Stay tuned for more tools on sharing this amazing message of peace and joy!
Like · Comment · 14 hours ago ·
Hannah Arneth, Michelle Wenslaff, Jt Tjr and 5 others like this.
Daniel Baker
I think a great way to "prepare" during this Adventide is to make use of the gift of private Confession and Absolution. We don't often think of it as such, but it is rightly considered a sacrament in the Lutheran Church and its gifts of Spirit-given repentance and forgiveness beautifully compliment the penitential season of Advent. Coupled with frequent reception of the Holy Supper and hearing the Proclaimed Gospel during the Divine Service, what better Means are there to "prepare the way" for the King of Kings than Those that He has given us!? 3 hours ago
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GJ - Note that the Time of Grace blurb is very Schuller-CG-like, all about the man, not the Messiah. I am sure the Baker comment will be erased now that it is posted here.