Bankrupt church wants donations for pastor’s sick wife ferried in limo | The Lookout - Yahoo! News:
Some members of a bankrupt Orange County, Calif. megachurch are expressing outrage after fielding an email request for congregants to deliver food to waiting limos so that it can ferried to the founder's sick wife. The appeal comes weeks after a lawsuit charged that the founder of the Crystal Cathedral house of worship, Rev. Robert Schuller, and his family had been paying themselves lavish salaries and other benefits while the church was in financial straits.
"They've completely depleted the church's funds," one member, Bob Canfield, told the Orange County Register. "But they have shown that they have absolutely no remorse for what they've done. They're still being chauffeured around in limos. We, the congregants, have nothing."
An email sent recently by Crystal Cathedral administrators said that Schuller and his wife, Arvella, "would appreciate meals over the next three to four weeks." It added: "They are to be sent to the church in order to be transported to Arvella. The limo drivers could pick up the dinners or meet in the Tower Lobby around 4:30 p.m."
Arvella Schuller has been suffering from pneumonia, and the email asked that the food be low in sodium and include items such as fruit, meat, soup and eggs.
Crystal Cathedral Ministries filed for bankruptcy last month. A lawsuit filed by creditors alleges thatthe Schullers borrowed more than $10 million from the church's endowment fund, and used it for salaries and regular church expenses.
"R.H. Schuller used his control and influence to cause the [cathedral] to enter into the agreements that benefitted himself and his family, to the detriment of the creditors and in breach of his fiduciary duties" to the church, the suit charges.
A spokesman for the church, John Charles, said the food request was in keeping with the church's commitment to Christian charity. "As Dr. Schuller always says, 'Find a need and fill it,'" he said. "I think that's what we were trying to do here."
But Canfield sees things differently. "These are millionaires who have limos and chauffeurs," he said. "Why in God's name would they want the congregants to deliver meals? It's ludicrous."
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One wonders why such a once thriving church as Schuller's seems now to be crumbling.
A church that once filled a drive-in theater, then a huge glass sanctuary along with world wide television exposure is now failing.
It was all about Schuller. One had to send his money to him, via Hour of Power.
Jeske seems to speak more of our state as sinners, and of Christ, and Him crucified. YET, Jeske never refers the watchers of Time of Grace to their local W/ELS pastors/congregations for further instruction/information. Doesn't this mean that one is to go only to Jeske through Time of Grace? This is different from Schuller/Hour of Power how?
Jeske certainly has no mega church in Milwaukee. One wonders whether this fact doesn't show all the more that Time of Grace is all about him.
Maybe folks are realizing that the message that they are receiving from some has nothing whatsoever to do with their salvation and are bolting.
One wonders why such a once thriving church as Schuller's seems now to be crumbling.
A church that once filled a drive-in theater, then a huge glass sanctuary along with world wide television exposure is now failing.
It was all about Schuller. One had to send his money to him, via Hour of Power.
Jeske seems to speak more of our state as sinners, and of Christ, and Him crucified. YET, Jeske never refers the watchers of Time of Grace to their local W/ELS pastors/congregations for further instruction/information. Doesn't this mean that one is to go only to Jeske through Time of Grace? This is different from Schuller/Hour of Power how?
Jeske certainly has no mega church in Milwaukee. One wonders whether this fact doesn't show all the more that Time of Grace is all about him.
Maybe folks are realizing that the message that they are receiving from some has nothing whatsoever to do with their salvation and are bolting.
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Let's see if Daniel Baker gets deleted/banned at ToG:
Time of Grace
Pastor Jeske is in the studio today taping some great videos to help you prepare your hearts for Christmas. Can you think of 3 people who you will share Christ-mas with this year? Stay tuned for more tools on sharing this amazing message of peace and joy!
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I think a great way to "prepare" during this Adventide is to make use of the gift of private Confession and Absolution. We don't often think of it as such, but it is rightly considered a sacrament in the Lutheran Church and its gifts of Spirit-given repentance and forgiveness beautifully compliment the penitential season of Advent. Coupled with frequent reception of the Holy Supper and hearing the Proclaimed Gospel during the Divine Service, what better Means are there to "prepare the way" for the King of Kings than Those that He has given us!? 3 hours ago
Let's see if Daniel Baker gets deleted/banned at ToG:
Time of Grace
Pastor Jeske is in the studio today taping some great videos to help you prepare your hearts for Christmas. Can you think of 3 people who you will share Christ-mas with this year? Stay tuned for more tools on sharing this amazing message of peace and joy!
Like · Comment · 14 hours ago ·
Hannah Arneth, Michelle Wenslaff, Jt Tjr and 5 others like this.
Daniel Baker
I think a great way to "prepare" during this Adventide is to make use of the gift of private Confession and Absolution. We don't often think of it as such, but it is rightly considered a sacrament in the Lutheran Church and its gifts of Spirit-given repentance and forgiveness beautifully compliment the penitential season of Advent. Coupled with frequent reception of the Holy Supper and hearing the Proclaimed Gospel during the Divine Service, what better Means are there to "prepare the way" for the King of Kings than Those that He has given us!? 3 hours ago
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GJ - Note that the Time of Grace blurb is very Schuller-CG-like, all about the man, not the Messiah. I am sure the Baker comment will be erased now that it is posted here.
