Thursday, November 3, 2011

Mark Jeske, Time of Grace:
Samuel Huber's False Doctrine Regurgitated



AC V has left a new comment on your post "Readers Respond to the Wizard Mark Jeske: WELS LCM...":

Time of Grace layin' it all out there:

Time of Grace on Facebook:

Jesus is already pure, and now he says you are too. Do you look at yourself as pure? Or does your guilty conscience endlessly remind you of what a piece of trash you are? You are pure. He made purification for you! When you lay your head on the pillow tonight, you can say, "I am pure." Not on the basis of your own performance, but on the basis of HIS performance.

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That kind of theology is exactly what the orthodox Lutheran theologians at Wittenberg condemned Samuel Huber for only 15 years after the Book of Concord was published:

“And to make his (Huber) opinion plain enough to us, he then asked us, how we would deal with people, if we came to a place, where nothing had been taught about Christ before. Then we answered him that we would start with the Law; make it clear to them that they were poor sinners and under the wrath of God, which they should recognize with penitent hearts. If they now were sorry for their sins, God offers through the Gospel His grace and remission of sins in Christ, wishing to make them righteous and saved, as far as they would accept it in true faith. To this Dr. Huber responded: No, this would not be the true way to preach to the unbelievers, but he would begin by saying this: You have the grace of God, you have the righteousness of Christ, you have salvation. - Concilia Theologica Witebergensia, Frankfurt an Mayn 1664, p. 554.

Link - from Bethany Lutheran College!, E. Teigen's course:

http://hans.blc.edu/~eteigen/Theology_&_Church_History_files/Justification%20and%20Easter.pdf



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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Readers Respond to the Wizard Mark Jeske: WELS LCM...":

Another Time of Grace gem:

One of the great gifts that our Bethlehem birthday boy came to bring is to switch on the lights for people, then and now, who are blind and stumbling around in darkness. - "Messiah is Coming"

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150369746438006&set=a.461286403005.263920.186323323005&type=1&theater



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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Readers Respond to the Wizard Mark Jeske: WELS LCM...":

Medical quacks partners with Time of Grace? Posted under "We're excited to share this great video with you from Dr. Tom Potisk, friend and partner of Time of Grace and a member of Pastor Jeske's home church. Enjoy!"

Martha Torreson As an RN, ND who practices with significant emphasis on spiritual care, I was interested in what Dr. Potisk had to say...much good to encourage healthy living. But am somewhat concerned that he doesn't seem to accurately reflect a medical model (I understand he comes from a chiropractic practice), and of more concern is the subtle mixture of some New Age religious beliefs in his wholistic approach...lacking in glorifying God in these beings (our lives) that He created and that He redeemed, and that He will raise to live eternally in the New Heaven & New Earth! Just trying to add to this "healthy" discussion in Christian love, most sincerely!!

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Readers Respond to the Wizard Mark Jeske: WELS LCM...":

Censorship at Time of Grace:

We're excited to share this great video with you from Dr. Tom Potisk, friend and partner of Time of Grace and a member of Pastor Jeske's home church. Enjoy!

Time of Grace, Spiritual Growth for You and Me www.youtube.com
http://www.wholehealthhealing.com/?p=478. Time of Grace is my favorite Christian spiritual growth media source.
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Debbie Johnson, Hannah Arneth, Jane Sternberg and 5 others like this. 2 shares

Tom Potisk Thanks TOG! My intention with this video/article is to introduce my fans to your wonderful mission. Keep up the fantastic work! 7 hours ago

Nancy-Elizabeth Wentzel Dr. Potisk, I see from your blog post on your website that you have a book called "Wellness Wins!" that promotes many of your holistic health philosophies. http://www.wholehealthhealing.com/?p=478

I was just wondering if all the spiritual wisdom in your book is strictly speaking from a Christian point of view, or if you draw on ideas from other faiths as well (I noticed a mention of Deepak Chopra, for example.) Thanks for any info you can provide! 4 hours ago

Elizabeth Woodfin Moll Thank you for your post, Emily - you are not the only one with serious concerns. 3 hours ago

Nancy-Elizabeth Wentzel Hey, where did Emily's post go? 3 hours ago

Craig Gerke Thank you for your previous post, Emily. It was deleted. I thought Time of Grace's social media policy was to engage in conversation. Apparently certain conversations are not welcome. Sad. 2 hours ago

Nancy-Elizabeth Wentzel Yes, I don't understand why Emily's post was deleted. It seemed like she was just raising some legitimate questions/ concerns about Dr. Potisk's teachings and spiritual stance. Would someone from Time of Grace be able to address this...? about an hour ago

Time of Grace Our policy, shortened, is to "Support each other as together we share the love of Jesus Christ" and to "promote community and HEALTHY discussion". We try to be very understanding with posts and opinions and comments, but if you do not adhere to that policy (i.e., supporting each other with healthy conversation) then we will remove your comments to protect the rest of our ToG family who is adhering to that policy with respect and Christ-like love. about an hour ago

Craig Gerke Thank you guys for the response! I'm not sure what the previous poster Emily said that was unhealthy?

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Parlow, Jeske, Kelm, Patterson.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Mark Jeske, Time of Grace: Samuel Huber's False Do...":

Lest we lose the direct link to the UOJ "Messiah is Coming" book, here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150380994913006&set=a.461286403005.263920.186323323005&type=1&theater



And lest someone retort with a "But that's Subjective Justification," here's Time of Grace's mission as published on Facebook:

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