Reminiscere, The Second Sunday in Lent
Pastor Gregory L. Jackson
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Mid-Week Lenten Services are Wednesdays at 6 PM.
The Hymn #140 Jesus Leiden und Pein
The Confession of Sins
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual 1 Thess. 4:1-7
The Gospel Matthew 15:21-28
Glory be to Thee, O Lord!
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
The Sermon Hymn #206 Jesus, meine Zuversicht
God Afflicts the Old Adam
The Hymn #311 Jesus Christus, unser Heiland
The Preface p. 24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn #151, vss 1-3 Jesu, meines Lebens Leben
KJV 1 Thessalonians 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more. 2 For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus. 3 For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: 4 That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour; 5 Not in the lust of concupiscence, even as the Gentiles which know not God: 6 That no man go beyond and defraud his brother in any matter: because that the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also have forewarned you and testified. 7 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
KJV Matthew 15:21 Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. 22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. 23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us. 24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me. 26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs. 27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table. 28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
Second Sunday In Lent
Lord God, heavenly Father, grant us, we beseech Thee, by Thy Holy Spirit, that He may strengthen our hearts and confirm our faith and hope in Thy grace and mercy, so that, although we have reason to fear because of our conscience, our sin, and our unworthiness, we may nevertheless, with the woman of Canaan, hold fast to Thy grace, and in every trial and temptation find Thee a very present help and refuge, through Thy beloved Son, Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world without end. Amen.
God Afflicts the Old Adam
The New Testament has many passages that have troubled people for centuries. Some of them seem to show Jesus as harsh, unconcerned, even insulting. This is one of them. If we study the Gospel, then we can see that Jesus’ love and wisdom should never be doubted.
First of all, we should ask ourselves why the Word of God would place such stumbling blocks in our way, making us wonder about Jesus. This is especially worth considering, since the Holy Spirit is very concise in telling us about Christ. Much more could be written, as the ending of John’s Gospel declares. Therefore, it would have been possible for the Bible to offer us only stories that flow past us without disturbing us at all.
We think we would like God’s Word to be like one class I once took. The professor was so kind and easy-going. He was soft spoken and soft on his students. In fact, I could hardly stay awake. If the Bible never disturbed us in any way, we would be asleep all of the time, or take things for granted.
We can see that this woman already believed in Christ. She had complete trust in His ability to heal her daughter and His willingness to do so. That never wavered. So, this is an example of Jesus laying His cross on a believer. As Luther wrote:
"Observe, God and men proceed in contrary ways. Men set on first that which is best, afterward that which is worse. God first gives the cross and affliction, then honor and blessedness. This is because men seek to preserve the old man; on which account they instruct us to keep the Law by works, and offer promises great and sweet...But God first of all terrifies the conscience, sets on miserable wine, in fact nothing but water; then, however, He consoles us with the promises of the Gospel which endure forever."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 69. Second Sunday after Epiphany, John 2:1-11.
In this miraculous healing, Jesus was first asked by a woman to heal her daughter, who was “grievously vexed with a devil.” But Jesus did not even answer the woman! Where was His love and compassion? She continued to cry, and His disciples intervened to ask Him to care of things. The request of the disciples implied that they wanted Him to grant her prayer, because His answer seemed to be a clear “No.” Jesus said He was sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. She was a Canaanite woman, a non-Jew. He was not sent to minister to her.
First Jesus refused to answer her. Then He told His disciples that His mission was to help the house of Israel. Next, the woman worshiped Him and implored His help. But He answered in a way that would be taken by many to be quite insulting: “It is not right to take away the children’s bread and give it to the dogs.” The children belonged to the house of Israel. She did not.
Three different times Jesus failed to grant her prayer for her daughter. The Canaanite woman responded in faith, “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the master’s table.” She was saying, “It is true that I do not qualify to receive help, so I am no better than a dog. But there is so much at the master’s table that I might get a crumb.”
Then Jesus said, “Great is your faith.” The woman’s daughter was healed at that moment.
In various miracles of healing, different points are made to give us spiritual wisdom. When the centurion’s son was healed, the main point was that Jesus could heal with His Word, without being present. However, that happened in this miracle without any emphasis upon the Word.
When the Gerasene demoniac was healed, the evil spirit confessed Jesus as the Son of God.
In this miracle, the healing revolved around Jesus’ reluctance to answer the woman or give her what she desperately wanted for her sick daughter. In fact, this is how God often treats us. He teaches us to look at Him as our kind, gracious, heavenly Father, and to see ourselves as His beloved children. He admonishes us to ask Him for everything, all our needs. And yet, when we pray to God, our prayers do not seem to be answered many times.
God does this to discipline us and to destroy our self-confidence. That is not a typographical error. Self-confidence often means pride, conceit, self-centeredness. When God delays answering our prayers and does not seem to hear or care about us, we begin to despair of ourselves. That is a good thing. When we think we can manage things ourselves, when we make demands, we can become extremely ungrateful.
One aspect of our fallen nature is very clear. Simply receiving things in abundance will make us spoiled, ungrateful, even resentful. Times of privation, when we have almost nothing, make us thankful for what we have. Some of the most grateful Americans are those who came through the Depression and WWII. Others are immigrants. One Polish immigrant came into the city treasury department in New Ulm, paid his real estate taxes, and said, “I want to tell you how thankful I am to be able to pay my taxes in America.” The workers were stunned and pleased to have a happy tax-payer in the office.
If we think we can take of ourselves through our strength, cleverness, and hard work, then our confidence in God will decrease. In contrast, if we give up on ourselves and throw ourselves on the mercy of God, then we will give Him alone the glory for the solution to our affliction.
The miracle in this lesson offers us two examples. First of all, the Son of God does not seem to listen and yet, after a period of waiting, He says, "Be it done as you desire.” Second, the woman is not deterred by waiting or the apparent shunning of her cause. Accepting the designation of “dog,” she responds, “Even the dogs get the scraps from the table.” She is held up as an example by Jesus Himself, “Great is your faith.”
In contrast, many are those who pray to God but become discouraged. What is discouragement but a lack of courage? Courage and patience are closely related. Aristotle wrote that courage and patience are so closely related that one must be the daughter of the other.
Praying in faith means having the spiritual wisdom to realize that God will answer prayers according to His wisdom. Faith in God means trusting that His nature is completely different from ours. His thought are completely different. “My ways are not your ways; My thoughts are not your thoughts.” God may delay answering our prayers to strengthen us in faith and to kill our confidence in our own abilities, wisdom, and strategies. If we are thankless, He may wait long enough to make us thankful. If we have decided exactly how He should accomplish our will, He may grant a prayer in such a convoluted way that we have to concede, “God alone did this.”
False teachers instruct people in how to demand and get from God exactly what they want, when they want it. God is not so weak nor so deaf that He cannot turn this around on them. They get exactly what they want and when they want it, to their destruction. They become more and more puffed up in their pride. They create their own destruction by being proud, unthankful, and conceited.
So we see in this Canaanite woman no questioning of God’s goodness. Her mission is so important that she cannot stop asking. Prayer to God requires faith. Her faith is undaunted by all the apparent roadblocks: the initial silence, the comment made to the disciples, and finally the response from Jesus Himself.
In Christ we have the source and giver of all spiritual treasures: forgiveness of sins through the cross, eternal life, the peace and joy of the Christian life, the blessings enjoyed by our children and grandchildren. Nothing is beyond the reach of God. He can bestow His wealth of blessings upon everyone.
Thankfulness and humility lead us to pray for others, to pray for what is most important for ourselves (in the eyes of God), to pray for faithful pastors and congregations.
Luther On the Cross
"If, here upon earth, the body is unwilling, not capable of grace and Christ's leading, it must bear the Spirit, upon which Christ rides, who trains it and leads it along by the power of grace, received through Christ. The colt, ridden by Christ, upon which no one ever rode, is the willing spirit, whom no one before could make willing, tame or ready, save Christ by His grace. However, the sack carrier, the burden-bearer, the old Adam, is the flesh, which goes riderless without Christ; it must for this reason bear the cross and remain a beast of burden."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, I, p. 53. First Sunday in Advent Matthew 21:1-9.
"But when our good work is followed by persecution, let us rejoice and firmly believe that it is pleasing to God; indeed, then let us be assured that it comes from God, for whatever is of God is bound to be crucified by the world. As long as it does not bring the cross, that is, as long as it does not bring shame and contempt as we patiently continue in it, it cannot be esteemed as a divine work since even the Son of God was not free from it--(suffering for the sake of the good He did) --but left us an example in this. He Himself tells us in Matthew 5:10, 12: 'Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness sake.. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven.'"
Commentary on Romans, trans. J. Theodore Mueller, Grand Rapids: Kregel Publications, 1976, p. 55. Matthew 5: 10, 12.; Romans 2:6-10
"On the other hand, we are outwardly oppressed with the cross and sufferings, and with the persecution and torments of the world and the devil, as with the weight of heavy stone upon us, subduing our old sinful nature and checking us against antagonizing the Spirit and committing other sins."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, VIII, p. 145. Sixth Sunday after Trinity, Romans 6:6 John 16:20 –
"Such people, however, do not understand divine things, they think they will suddenly enter death with Christ, whom they have never learned to know except in words. Thus was Peter also disposed, but he stood before Christ like a rabbit before one beating a drum. Notice, how the old Adam lacks courage when under the cross! The new man, however, can indeed persevere through grace."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed. John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 85. Third Sunday after Easter John 16:16-23
"But wine is sharp and signifies the holy cross that immediately follows. A Christian need not look for his cross, it is always on his back. For he thinks as St. Paul says, 2 Timothy 3:12: 'All that would live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.' This is the court-color in this kingdom. Whoever is ashamed of the color, does not belong to this king."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, V, p. 30. Thirteenth Sunday after Trinity, Luke 10:23-37; 2 Timothy 3:12
"Observe, God and men proceed in contrary ways. Men set on first that which is best, afterward that which is worse. God first gives the cross and affliction, then honor and blessedness. This is because men seek to preserve the old man; on which account they instruct us to keep the Law by works, and offer promises great and sweet...But God first of all terrifies the conscience, sets on miserable wine, in fact nothing but water; then, however, He consoles us with the promises of the Gospel which endure forever."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, II, p. 69. Second Sunday after Epiphany, John 2:1-11.
"Not only is Christ hidden from the world, but a still harder thing is it that in such trials Christ conceals himself even from His church, and acts as if he had forgotten, aye, had entirely forsaken and rejected it, since He permits it to be oppressed under the cross and subjected to all the cruelty of the world, while its enemies boast, glory and rejoice over it, as we shall hear in the next Gospel."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 67. Second Sunday after Easter John 10:11-16.
"If we would be Christians, we must surely expect and count on having the devil, together with all his angels and the world, as our enemies. They all will bring misfortune and sorrow on us For where the Word of God is preached, accepted, or believed, and where it produces fruit, the dear, holy cross cannot be wanting."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, I, p. 357. Large Catechism
"O Lord, look down from heaven, behold And let Thy pity waken;
How few are we within Thy fold, Thy saints by men forsaken!
True faith seems quenched on every hand, Men suffer not Thy Word to stand;
Dark times have us overtaken.
(2) With fraud which they themselves invent Thy truth they have confounded;
Their hearts are not with one consent On Thy pure doctrine grounded.
While they parade with outward show, They lead the people to and fro,
In error's maze astounded.
(3) May God root out all heresy And of false teachers rid us
Who proudly say: 'Now, where is he That shall our speech forbid us?
By right or might we shall prevail; What we determine cannot fail;
We own no lord and master.
(5) As silver tried by fire is pure From all adulteration
So through God's Word shall men endure Each trial and temptation.
Its light beams brighter through the cross, And purified from human dross,
It shines thru every nation."
The Lutheran Hymnal, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1941, Hymn #260. Psalm 12.
"But now, since the prince of this world and the Holy Spirit, the kingdom of Christ and the kingdom of the devil, are directly opposed to one another, and the Holy Spirit is not willing that anyone should parade his own deeds and praise himself on account of them, the holy cross must soon follow. The world will not consent to be reprimanded for its blindness. Therefore one must willingly submit and suffer persecution. If we have the right kind of faith in our hearts, we must also open our mouths and confess righteousness and make known sin. Likewise we must condemn and punish the doings of this world and make it known that everything it undertakes, is damned."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, III, p. 120. Fourth Sunday after Easter John 16:5-15.
"The deeper a person is sunk in sadness and emotional upheavals, the better he serves as an instrument of Satan. For our emotions are instruments through which he gets into us and works in us if we do not watch our step. It is easy to water where it is wet. Where the fence is dilapidated, it is easy to get across. So Satan has easy access where there is sadness. Therefore one must pray and associate with godly people."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, III, p. 1243. 1532
"This a true definition of marriage: Marriage is the God-appointed and legitimate union of man and woman in the hope of having children or at least for the purpose of avoiding fornication and sin and living to the glory of God. The ultimate purpose is to obey God, to find aid and counsel against sin; to call upon God; to seek, love, and educate children for the glory of God; to live with one's wife in the fear of God and to bear the cross; but if there are no children, nevertheless to live with one's wife in contentment; and to avoid all lewdness with others."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 884. Genesis 24:1-4.
"This is a true definition of marriage: Marriage is the God-appointed and legitimate union of man and woman in the hope of having children or at least for the purpose of avoiding fornication and sin and living to the glory of God. The ultimate purpose is to obey God, to find aid and counsel against sin; to call upon God; to seek, love, and educate children for the glory of God; to live with one's wife in the fear of God and to bear the cross; but if there are no children, nevertheless to live with one's wife in contentment; and to avoid all lewdness with others."
What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols. ed. Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 884. Genesis 24:1-4
"Human works and doctrines at all times yield much revenue and carnal gain, while the doctrines of God and the work of Christ bring the cross, poverty, ignominy, and all kinds of calamity, which the holiness of Herod cannot endure. Thus it happens always, that they who have ensnared and oppressed the poor with an erring conscience and with human doctrines, do not like to hear that poor, miserable consciences receive instruction, attain a right understanding, and seek the simple pure Word of God and faith."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, I, p. 376. Epiphany Matthew 2:1-12.
"The apostle says 'our,' 'our sins;' not his own sin, not the sins of unbelievers. Purification is not for, and cannot profit, him who does not believe. Nor did Christ effect the cleansing by our free-will, our reason or power, our works, our contrition or repentance, these all being worthless in the sight of God; he effects it by himself. And how? By taking our sins upon himself on the holy cross, as Isaiah 53:6 tells us."
Sermons of Martin Luther, ed., John Nicholas Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, VI, p. 180. Hebrews 1:1-12; Hebrews 1:3;
"This, mark you, is the peace of the cross, the peace of God, peace of conscience, Christian peace, which gives us even external calm, which makes us satisfied with all men and unwilling to disturb any. Reason cannot understand how there can be pleasure in crosses, and peace in disquietude; it cannot find these. Such peace is the work of God, and none can understand it until it has been experienced."
Sermons of Martin Luther, 8 vols., ed., John Nicholaus Lenker, Grand Rapids: Baker Book House, 1983, VI, p. 111. Fourth Sunday in Advent, Philippians 4:7
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Saturday, March 7, 2009
Reminiscere - The Second Sunday in Lent
Jeff Davis - Church and Changer -
Will Change Your Church,
And Charge Plenty For It
Well, smack my bottom and call me George. I found a bundle of information about Church and Chicanery leader Jeff Davis, who has NO BIO on the Church and Change website - just like Ski. But Ski has no picture there either. Now that is stealth!
Here is Jeff's business:
Cornerstone Stewardship Ministry.
Team members are WELS and Missouri, maybe ELCA - hard to tell. But one is Ron Roth, the first WELS Love Shack member to be openly Church Growth.
which Wayne Mueller said was never in WELS.
Church and Change, 2007
107 CREATING A CULTURE OF GENEROSITY IN YOUR CHURCH
Jeffrey Davis (jeff@joyfulgiving.net) What is a generous church? How do we teach God’s people to excel in the grace of giving? When a congregation is transformed by Jesus’ message that “It is more blessed to give than to receive” (Acts 20:35), what does it look like? Preaching and teaching about money is not something we should ignore. Jesus, on numerous occasions, addressed the issue of money and possessions. He knew that God’s people throughout the ages would face challenges and temptations of wealth. The formula for creating a culture of generosity is very simple – through God’s Word preach it, teach it, and celebrate it! This workshop will share ideas and give examples for churches intent on creating cultures marked by strong financial stewardship and biblically guided generosity. Jeff’s ideas for God’s leaders on creating cultures of generosity within Lutheran congregations will be helpful and biblically based.Jeffrey Davis has served the Lutheran church as teacher, administrator and presently, as consultant. He is owner of Cornerstone Stewardship Ministry, a consulting firm that teaches stewardship.108 A POSITIVE VIEW OF BELIEVERFS (sic) IS REALISTIC…AND PRACTICAL!
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WELS Kingdom Workers
BOARD MEMBER
Church and Chicanery Board Members:
Pastor Ron Ash Chairman - Ski's launching pad.
Jeff Davis Vice Chairman - "Jeffrey Davis has served the Lutheran church as teacher, administrator and presently, as consultant. He is owner of Cornerstone Stewardship Ministry, a consulting firm that teaches stewardship."
Sarah Owens Secretary
Barry Spencer - St. Markus Jeske.
Caleb Cordes
Pastor Bruce Becker - St. Markus Jeske.
Pastor John Huebner
James Skorzewski - Formerly St. Markus Jeske.
Jeff Davis
csconsultants@charter.net
Popcorn Cathedral Ally Takes Aim...
And Misses
Location Franklin, WI
@pastorski Wow. That is amazing - what a key age group to share the Good News with!
6:07 PM Mar 6th from TweetDeck in reply to pastorski
ThompsonWorld has left a new comment on your post "Clueless Times Two":
BM, I apologize for taking you at face value. Lesson for me. But I believe you are making MY point - "Market the gospel" are your words, not mine.
Are not Sunday School programs and traditional youth groups (as attended by Mr. GJ) ways to intentionally devise a plan to share the gospel with a specific demographic? I'm pretty sure that many of these programs have grown out of Confessional Lutheran soil.
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Ultimate fighting party tonight at Skis. Good food good people great night.
about 2 hours ago from Tweetie
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Bailing Water On Worship and the Liturgy
John said...
I wonder the same thing about the gimmicky children sermons. Why are these held in the sanctuary during the divine service? Most often, it seems that the children don't even grasp the concept the pastor (or lay woman) is trying to get across). It seems the real target audience is the adults. How can we minister to the kids and make the adults laugh at the same time? Hold a light bulb and give a kiddie sermon.
March 7, 2009 8:56 AM
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Benjamin Tomczak said...
Freddy ~
You asked to hear something "from the ministerium" regarding some of these issues you've been discussing. I mentioned this in a comment on some other post a while ago, but now I'll put the whole link in.
This is from the latest Wisconsin Lutheran Quarterly, by Prof. Daniel Leyrer. It's a "News and Note" comment about the role of the Lutheran Liturgy and Evangelism. And while it doesn't do what you asked for before, that is, lay out specific rules or guidelines about things, it does make a strong statement for the retention of the liturgy and the value of the liturgy itself, the Word and Sacrament in the context of the Western Rite, as a tool for proclamation and evangelism.
I received permission from Prof. Leyrer to use this article in my congregation's newsletter and posted it here:
http://stmarklutheran.wordpress.com/2009/02/05/the-lutheran-liturgy-and-evangelism/
It's well worth a couple minutes of reading.
Grace and peace,
Pr. Benjamin Tomczak
March 7, 2009 9:40 AM
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Freddy Finkelstein said...
dk, you ask my opinion of your statement: "Christians have to understand their culture and act with prudence when choosing how to worship..."
This, and what follows in that paragraph, are exactly the direction a critique of our own culture needs to take. In pursuing such a study, one major handicap we Americans suffer in our post, post-Enlightenment society, is direct and recent experience with paganism, and with pagan worship. We are ill-equipped to recognize it in our own culture, and to run from it the way we otherwise would. In many ways, this is what pop-music has become for Americans – a form of worship (and one could probably apply this to Westerners in general...). With the complete demise of the Great Tradition in the early 20th century, virtually all Americans today lack the intellectual tools to objectively assess popular amusements and receive them purely as entertainment, leaving non-Christians and weak Christians in our society with neither mental nor spiritual armor against Satan's perversion of them.
Everyone has heard the story of a recent missionary, who brought his family to Africa to continue a mission that had just been established among some newly converted natives. His daughter brought with her some cassette tapes of Christian pop-music, and would frequently listen to them in her living quarters. Of course, the music would waft outside of the walls, and could be heard by others. Finally, one day the village leader, unable to tolerate it, strode over to the missionary's daughter, violently snatched her cassettes away, and destroyed them. Asked later why he would do such a thing, the village leader responded, “The rhythms I heard in that music were the same rhythms we used to conjure the evil spirits.” Apparently, the village leader was formerly the village “witch-doctor,” and had a clear understanding of pagan forms and a respect for their danger.
The point isn't that “we'd better watch out, because using pop-music may conjure demons.” I don't believe that rhythms or incantations have any innate power to conjure Satan and his minions – they roam the Earth freely as it is. Rather, Satan has paralyzed certain cultures with fear, and has commanded them to use specific rhythms and incantations in their worship, to increase their burden of fear and tighten his grip about them. The point is, this village leader had the experience to recognize pagan forms, the prescience to understand their danger, and the conviction to act swiftly and decisively. He did the right thing.
In the West, in America especially, Satan doesn't use fear – at least, not in the same sense he uses fear among primitive cutlures. In our culture, he uses desire – wanton desire; and desire is precisely the message of today's popular forms. And not the message only, but the means of its propagation. It is a form of pagan worship, the object not being demonic, but man himself, and the purpose of the worship being to satiate the desires of this object. But do we have the prescience to understand the danger, and the conviction to act? I don't know. I don't know because I don't see wide recognition that popular amusements may constitute a form of paganism in our culture. Instead, I see such ideas casually and uncritically dismissed, because we are supposedly an "Enlightened Society." Instead, I see Christians inviting these forms into the church precisely because they work to satiate the desires of man.
A close friend of mine, a fairly accomplished Jazz guitarist and “Contemporary Worship” advocate, laughed once as he told me how one of his acquaintances in “praise band circles” plays in the style of Pink Floyd, “Every time I go to his church and hear him play, I can't help but think of Pink Floyd.” He thought it was funny. I responded, “You think it is no more than a laughing matter when, in the course of worship, your mind is drawn away from Christ and the Gospel, and is instead focused on Pink Floyd and their message? You think it is something to laugh about when it is the worship itself that draws you away from Christ?” He stopped chuckling. It is no laughing matter. The power of popular contemporary forms, and the associations that are immediately drawn from them, is no trivial matter, either.
(BTW, my friend is now not quite the CW advocate he once was... He still needs work, though.)
Freddy Finkelstein
March 7, 2009 10:40 AM
dk said...
Anon 8:49
No no. Don't get me wrong. I'm offended by the fooling around that goes on as well. I wrote:
"well rehearsed and reverent choir (kids or adults) singing God-centered songs"
Maybe I should've wrote "well behaved" too but I kinda included that with "reverent".
I have seen well-behaved kid's choirs (up front) that truly added to the church service. But being sensitive to our culture, knowing that the majority of people want to see a kid misbehave because it's 'cute' I think you're probably right. In another age where discipline was a virtue--one where the culture respected the musical offering of our kids, I would have to suggest that kids in front would be totally fine.
You know another thing that is totally shameful is when you can tell that the kids are trying hard and out of innocence they do something silly. People laugh. What does that tell the kids about the hymn they are singing to God? I agree with you John about the kiddy sermons. get rid of em. When I was a kid I could tell when I was being patronized.
These C&Cers speak with the same condescension that the politically liberal use.
March 7, 2009 12:05 PM
Why Drop the Name Lutheran?
Norman Teigen has left a new comment on your post "The FIC Church and Chicanery Count: March Issue":
I think that WELZ is the only Lutheran synod that does not include the word 'Lutheran' in the title of the official house organ. I am thinking of: The Lutheran, The Lutheran Witness, The Lutheran Sentinel.
Why is this so?
Norman Teigen
ELS layman
(although I am member of the ELS, I am not to be considered as a spokesman for the ELS).
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GJ - Norm and readers - if you look at my stealth list on the left - The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name - you will find many examples from the Church and Chicaneries.
Lyle Schaller and other experts have advised them that denominational labels are a downer for the I-hate-church group targeted by Becoming Missional or Emerging Church. The targeted people need bad Rock and Roll music and gourmet coffee, but no confessional identity.
Why do you think that Ski's sandbox is called The CORE? The really trendy folks get rid of the church name, too.
No one really objected when the change was being made by the Changers. You could have heard an ant wetting cotton during the debate, because there was none. The Conference of Pussycats blinked once or twice and took another nap, dreaming of another Schwan to come along.
My Harley Davidson Witness - Almost
I saw someone wearing a Harley-Davidson hat at the mall. I wanted to offer a hug and say, "I am so glad Jesus rode a hog." But I looked at the 19-inch biceps, the hairy deltoids, the pack of unfiltered Camels, the skull-and-crossbones tattoo, and decided against it. I thought, "Maybe her boyfriend would be offended."
How To Be Relevant
You guessed it. This is where Emerging, Becoming Missional, CGM is heading.
Sexed.
http://vimeo.com/3337196.
The FIC Church and Chicanery Count:
March Issue
Which promoters of Church and Change or Church Shrinkage are in the March, 2009 issue of The Northwestern Lutheran Forward in Christ?
He wrote about floods.
There may be others, but they do like to work stealthily. That is handy, because no one is sure who is C and C, but the Chicaneries sure know who is against them.
Thank You For All the Information
I would like to thank all of you by name, but I do not know a lot of names. I know a few, and they are people who are not bigshots in WELS. They are laity.
WELS created an inversion over the last few decades. Only the Fuller/Willow Creek zombies and their robotic lay followers could have any influence. They are quite impressed with themselves and their power network. For a long time they had a grip on all communication. For instance, there was a massive effort to keep people from learning about the first WELS pan-denominational worship workshop at Carthage College (ELCA): only the ELS was excluded!
Now people can learn the facts in minutes, and quite a few people are providing the data.
In the past, anyone who questioned this C and C inversion was forced out, frozen out, or given a Sisera counseling session. Questions at a clergy meeting met with denunciations or coffin-like silence. Now, I am told, people read Ichabod daily and laugh very hard. My source used a more graphic expression.
The laity like to imagine themselves as leaders. That means they need to lead, not wait around for the pastor to do something right and mean it. Too many pastors are welded to the Church and Change promotion system. How they howled when I quoted them!
Kudu Don Patterson wrote to me that he had issues with C and C, but when John Lawrenz oozed about doing new things in the Third World, Patterson responded: "Pure gold. Thank you, Brother John. May your Fuller tattoo and my Willow Creek tattoo meet in Paradise." (I added the last sentence, just for fun.)
I would love to see a list of WELS leaders, especially Love Shackers, who have never studied at Fuller, Fuller Evangelism Institute, Fuller Missions, Win Arn, Kent Hunter, Willow Creek, or Trinity Divinity in Deerfield.
One of the all-time upper lip curlers is study at a Missouri Synod school. Orthodoxy in WELS requires a sneer whenever Missouri is mentioned, accompanied by a story which shows how vastly superior WELS is to big brother. However, Paul Kelm, age 64, earned a drive-by DMin at Concordia Seminary, St. Louis, and that got him a job at The Love Shack. Why didn't upper lips curl into a sneer for that?
Get This Man Another Grant
WELS Popcorn Cathedral of Rock Training Program.
Long day. Presenting, questions, talking with people. Later tonite UFC party at the house. Lots of our church people coming over should b Gr8
4 minutes ago from twitterrific
[Blogger spell-check report: Epic Fail. All systems down.]
Up way too early on a Saturday morning. At FVL for evangelism workshop. Skis (sic) presenting. Gotta run the computer.
about 9 hours ago from Tweetie
After checking out the schedule for launching The CORE website, which is a disgrace by itself, and noting the Saturday work load, I can come to only one conclusion:
A day of work for Ski consists of 30 minutes effort and hours of partying. Apparently he needs his pricey executive assistant to run the computer during his presentation. A PowerPoint clicker only costs $60. I can only guess what his presentations are like from my study of The Wind in the Willows:
A. A few party songs by Ski.
B. The day Andy Stanley got to meet me.
C. My sports triumphs in the WELS educational system.
D. More party songs, written by Ski.
E. A comparison of brews, by Ski.
F. Why Craig Groeschel's sermons sound so much like mine, by Ski.
G. Closing comments about foundations, grants, and goal-setting, by Ski.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Anything Goes District Evangelism":
The info presented here is from the 2008 workshop. Today was the 2009 workshop (and James Skorzewski was a presenter). There were about 20 workshops today. If I can find my schedule I will post it.
My reaction to this year's 2009 workshop is similar to the original poster's reaction to last year's workshop.
WELS has died :(
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Meet one of the undertakers:
Anything Goes District Evangelism
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?2601&collectionID=1509
Be prepared to choke down the vomit as you read the descriptions of some of the workshops.
Yes, my snowbound, faithful lay fellow NWD members, understand that your church contributions are being used to promote this garbage. You might want to ask your congregation president and board of elders why.
Diet O. Worms
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District Workshop
The 2008 District Workshop for WELS Congregations will be held at Fox Valley Lutheran High School in Appleton on March 8. The course listing brochure and registration forms are available below in the "District Workshop Info" folder. [GJ - This workshop is designed for all the poopy-butts who skipped our Church and Change conference last year. Below is last year's agenda with commentary.]
Commission Members
Chairman: Rev. Randall Styx [GJ - He should open a mission in Hell, Michigan.]
2008 Workshop for Congregations
Northern Wisconsin District
March 8, 2008
Fox Valley Lutheran High School
5300 N Meade, Appleton, WI
Registration 8:00 a.m.
Worship 9:00 a.m.
Session 1 10:00 a.m.
Lunch 11:35 a.m.
Session 2 12:35 p.m.
Session 3 2:10 p.m.
Closing devotion 3:45 p.m.
On your registration sheet, please indicate your choice for three workshop sessions plus two alternates.
1. Everything you always wanted to know about your synod; Q&A with the president – Rev. Mark Schroeder, WELS President
Here’s your chance to get all of those nagging questions about the synod answered. In this informal question and answer session, you can ask Synod President Mark Schroeder about anything having to do with the state of the synod, decisions of the last synod convention, and future plans for what we do together to carry out our common mission. (While financial questions are permitted here, please attend the Open Forum on Synod Finances if that is your primary interest.)
2. Open Forum on Synod Finances – Ron Hillmann, NWD
Synodical Council member, and Todd Poppe, WELS Chief Financial Officer
What is the current financial status of our Synod? How great is our debt, and where did it come from? What has happened since the Convention? Get answers directly from those who know. [GJ - Do not bring any sharp objects, please!]
3. Organizing Congregations for More Outreach
– Pastor Michael Hintz, Administrator – WELS Commission on Evangelism
Congregational organization will not save anyone – only the Gospel can do that. But effectively organizing the congregation’s work of evangelism can help to bring the Gospel to a greater number of people and give the Holy Spirit more opportunity to work saving faith in the hearts of people. In this workshop, we will give attention to 1) practical organization for evangelism in your congregation, 2) formulating a long-range plan that will serve to focus your work, and 3) helpful ideas for involving more members in your outreach efforts. [GJ - No comment needed. MBO. Burp.]
4. Involving Young Adults in Mission – Pastor Wayne Schulz
Connecting with and engaging twenty-somethings for the Lord's service. We will examine what some of their attitudes are toward Christianity and the church. We will encourage engaging them to engage their peer group. [GJ - Making disciples who make disciples who make disciples. No, not that way, silly.]
5. Family Evangelism
– Pastor Stuart Zak, Evangelism Coordinator- Northern Wisconsin District
Sons and daughters, grandchildren, brothers and sisters, nieces and nephews, parents and grandparents, spouses... our greatest opportunity and responsibility to do evangelism often is in our family. There are some natural barriers that can hinder us from being effective and there is confidence in God's Word that overcomes all barriers. This workshop helps identify some "do's and don'ts" in communicating Christ with your own family.
6. Revitalization and our Lutheran Elementary Schools
– Greg R. Schmill, Forward with Lutheran Schools Consultant
This presentation explores the key questions surrounding the revitalization and strengthening of our Lutheran elementary schools: What does it mean to revitalize? Why we need to revitalize? Who should revitalize? What can a congregation do on its own to revitalize its school? Why would a congregation involve Parish Assistance/Forward with Lutheran Schools (PA/FWLS)? What does PA/FWLS have in place to help revitalize and strengthen schools?
7. From Bottles and Bibs to Blessings – Ann Potter, Director of Our Shepherd Childcare and Family Ministry Center
If your ministry will (does) include infants or preschoolers this workshop is for you. If you are in the planning stage we will offer helpful information and resources. If you are already offering this unique ministry let's get together and share ideas, successes, and hindsight advice. Topics will include: licensing regulations, policies, discipline, Christian curriculum ideas and resources, staffing, outreach ideas, and much, much, more.
8. Your Sunday School is Dead – Who Will Do the Funeral? (Transforming your Children’s Ministry into the best hour of a child’s week)
– Robert and Mary Beth Knippel
Children are bombarded by vibrant media—television, video games and MP3 players. Should we be surprised that the “Sunday School” model may be due for an overhaul? Take from this workshop all you need to conduct Sunday school’s funeral and begin a new chapter in Children’s ministry. Touch their senses with music, crafts, drama, intentional shepherding and develop deep and lasting relationships with their Savior Jesus. Christ-Light curriculum is utilized! [GJ - Certified Fuller Seminary promoter. Church and Change presenter, same presentation: 302a.... Your Sunday School is Dead–Who will do theFuneral? –Bob and Mary Beth Knippel. SS was a Baptist movement copied by the Lutherans. WELS should experiment with Luther's doctrine and the Means of Grace.]
9. How Healthy is Your School? – James M. Sievert
Is yours a healthy school? What does a healthy school look like? This workshop presents tools that can be used to assess the health of a school and the reasoning behind the tools.
10. Which Niche? – Choosing an outreach children’s ministry
– Pastor Paul Steinberg
We hear about so many congregations doing exciting and growing outreach minded children’s ministries. We can’t do them all. Share and discover an idea to take home and try where you are. Hear about after-school ministry, unique part-time ministries and slants on standard ministries. Share your ideas and experience. Big and small churches will leave with an idea and motivation to give it a shot. A CD with free ministry resources including PowerPoint visual Bible lessons will be given to all participants. [GJ - Is he wearing his Favre jersey for this one? Steinberg - St. Markus Church and Changer, giving the same presentation as he did at the last C and C conference. If the mountain won't go to Mohammed, Mohammed will go to the mountain.]
11. Helping Our Families Succeed – Pastor Bill Heiges
A church is only as strong as its families. The state of the family in today's world is vastly different from the days of Leave It To Beaver and Father Knows Best. Today Blended families and Single Parent families may outnumber traditional families in our churches. How can we reach them with God's Word and help them succeed? This presentation will offer solid solutions and resources any church can use to strengthen their families. [Church and Changer]
12. A Movie is Worth a Million Words – Pastor Nathan Krause
Using movie clips for sermons and church presentations - In this day and age of visual communication and entertainment there is no better way to leave a lasting impression with worshippers and group attendees than with the perfect movie clip. Learn how to find, manipulate and use video clips for worship and presentations. [GJ - Fresh from his Church and Change appearance.]
13. Women’s Ministry Ideas and Plans – Jane A. Schlenvogt
Are you hoping to approach women’s ministry to women in a fresh way? We’ll look at holding a focus group to discover your areas needs and ideas will be shared for creative planning and events.
14. WELS Women as Christian Leaders – Kathie Wendland
During the "Heirs Together of God's Gracious Gift of Life" Bible study preparation it became clear Scripture does not generically prohibit woman as leaders in the LORD's church. However, during that study it also became clear that many of us, men and women, have been confused by the world's concept of leadership and the world's understanding of headship. This session will look at Christian leadership and the blessings that honoring Scripture's headship principle bring to women leaders as Scripture defines those concepts. This WILL be an active participation Bible study! [GJ - Women teaching men - very Biblical.]
15. Getting Messy: Organizing Congregational Events – Deb Rothe
Get some ideas, timelines, and plans that are going to get your members to bring friends and those friends to come back to your church. It makes your comfy cozy congregation a bit messy and a bit awkward and saves souls – are you willing to get messy? [GJ - Um. No. I am willing to trust the Word.]
16. Myths on Children’s Grief – Kenneth Wenzel, WLIM Chaplain
Review how children grieve the death of a loved one differently from adults. Learn what myths hurt the grieving process and how to watch our for hurtful sayings. Understand how to help a child or the family of a child in the grieving process. Strengthen the skill of your compassion.
17. Let’s Go to a Special Ministries Conference – What did you say?
– Robb Robbert, Special Ministries District Coordinator
October 3-5, 2008 - National Special Ministries Conference will be held at the Sheraton Milwaukee Brookfield Hotel. If you or anyone in your congregation or community has interest in any of the 8 areas of Special Ministry (Cognitive disability, Deaf/Hard of Hearing, Blind, Elderly, MILITARY, Care for Called Workers, Mental Health issues, Prison/Jail Ministry) please come to this workshop at FVL and you will learn much more about the conference and will receive ½ off the registration fee for the October Conference. This year at the FVL workshop we will also be highlighting the Deaf and Hard of Hearing Ministry.
18. Do You Belong in Jail?
– Chaplain Dan Krause, Wisconsin Lutheran Institutional Ministry (WLIM)
There is an exciting outreach ministry right in our own Northern Wisconsin District. Laypersons and called workers are conducting visits, Bible studies and services in a variety of institutions (nursing homes, jails, prisons, hospitals, etc.). This presentation will present what is currently being done by several of the participants and leaders in this ministry. A survey will be done prior to the workshop to research and help coordinate some of our work being done by individuals, congregations and organizations in our NWD.
19. How to facilitate (lead) a small group Bible study,” Or “Leading a Bible Study in Jail, or Anywhere
– Duane D. Anderson, Lead Trainer for WELS – JMTT
This presentation includes seating arrangements, dynamics of small groups and related issues, need for qualitative questions, and how to encourage responses to questions. The second part is an in-depth presentation of how to develop Bible-based, study guides that can be completed within one hour. Duane Anderson is a Trainer for the WELS Jail Ministry Training Team.
20. Web Streaming your Services and Events – Cheaper Than You Think
– Martin Spriggs
Do you have members who can’t be in church on Sunday, but would like to “participate” anyway? How about college students or military? Would prospects like to “try out” your service before actually attending in person? Would relatives of your school children like to watch a school play or sporting event. This is all possible with web streaming. If you have a high speed internet connection in your church or school it’s really quite easy and cheap. Come learn what you need and brainstorm what the possibilities are. We will do an actual web stream in the class. Tell your friends so they can tune in and see you live…on the web. [GJ - I explained how to do this already, and I didn't charge a registration fee.]
21. Reaching the Disconnected Through Internet Technology
– Martin Spriggs
The world has gotten smaller and so have our congregations...not necessarily in size, but in our ability to stay in touch though internet technologies. Your ability to connect the disconnected can be enhanced with technologies like audio and video streaming, dynamic web sites and digital voice technologies. So if you are looking to "regain the straying", help prevent members from getting disconnected, or simply wanting to minister to those separated from you by distance (college or military members), come learn how technology can help.
22. The Use of PowerPoint to Enhance Sermon Presentation
– Pastor Mark Hannemann
PowerPoint can help the congregation follow the sermon message so they can better understand and retain it. Some basics will be presented for those not currently using this visual aid. Pastors who use PowerPoint are urged to bring samples to share so we can learn from one another. [GJ - Most professionals have been Power-Pointed to death. Most adult education experts avoid death by PP. WELS is always last to know.]
23. Faith Focused Finances and Your Congregation – Rev. David A. Kehl,
Administrator of WELS Commission on Adult Discipleship
What effect has our materialistic culture had on our congregational focus? What does consistently addressing personal finances have to do with making disciples? What can be done to build up healthy financial stewardship within congregations? This workshop will give participants an overview of the main themes and tools of Faith Focused Finances – a suite of resources to develop an atmosphere of stewardship and generosity in a congregation. The participants will leave with ideas and perhaps plans on how to use these tools in their area. [GJ - Here is a clue. The Bible says nothing about manufacturing disciples. Once again, why not experiment with trusting Gospel motivation? There are no apples where there are no trees.]
24. Using MIDI Technology in Worship
– Mr. Carl S. Nolte
What is MIDI and how does it work? This presentation will give a brief
overview of the technology called MIDI. Different programs and
applications will be demonstrated to show how it can be used in worship to
accompany choirs, instrumentalists, and the congregation. HymnSoft, a
MIDI program from NPH, will be discussed.
25. Using MIDI in Real Time to Involve More Members in Worship Music
– Sharon Winslow
Would you like to:
· create opportunities for more instrumentalists to play during worship?
· involve your teens with a new way to serve, utilizing their natural proficiency in technology?
· electronically add more variety to the sound of your worship music while retaining the spontaneity of real time performance?
· provide more technical, classical, contemporary or orchestral accompaniments for your choir, handbells, ensembles or soloists?
· give your organist a variety of new sounds to play live, as well as an “emergency back-up” for when the organist is absent?
26. In the Beginning – How to Start and (sic) Alternative Worship Experience
– Pastor James R. Skorzewski
What does contemporary worship mean? How do you start a contemporary service? There are changes taking places all over the worship world. Is it possible to use some “contemporary” ideas in a worship service and still remain Lutheran? In this session I will discuss what has worked for us at St. Marcus Lutheran Church in Milwaukee. [GJ - Is anyone surprised that this description has a typo? The pricey executive assistant probably reduced the typos by a factor of five.]
27. How to Change Your Church Without Killing It
– Pastor Mark Walters
We know that we’ve got the one thing needful for a post-modern culture – the unconditional forgiving love of Jesus Christ. Yet we also know that connecting with that culture many times means making changes to our traditional approach of “doing church”. Why does the one organization that should be most readily adaptable to change seem to be the most resistant? How do we move forward in bringing as many people with us as possible? This workshop seeks to explore some of the pre-conceived notions about change while giving participants basic tools to think about as they initiate and manage change in their congregation. (This workshop was originally scheduled for 2007, but was not able to be presented at that time.) [GJ - This has Church and Change written all over it.]
28. A Christian Response to Contemporary Biotechnology
– Robert Balza, Jr.
Modern biotechnology has ushered in an era of in vitro fertilization, pre-implantation genetic diagnosis, cloning and embryonic stem cell research. How should a Christian react to all of this? The goal of this course is to get past the dense scientific trade jargon, and provide a clear intellectual framework for considering these technology in the context one’s own moral sensitivities and in the light of Holy Scripture. – (Robert Balza Jr is an assistant professor of biology at Wisconsin Lutheran College and a member of St. John’s Lutheran Church in Wauwatosa, WI. He holds a PhD in biochemistry from the Medical College of Wisconsin. He has published and continues to work in in the field of developmental biology.)
29. Christian Estate Planning /and/ Practical Money Management –
Arnie Nommensen
All aspects of Christian estate planning and vehicles that can be used for Christian giving, during lifetime and at death.
30. Church Architecture – Coordinating Form and Function –
Pastor Randall Styx
Are you thinking about a new building? …about remodeling or expanding your building? This workshop presents food for thought for the earliest stages of the planning process. Will your building design your mission and ministry or will your mission and ministry design your building?
Who may attend? Anyone. We especially encourage church leaders to come, but all are welcome, even non-members. (Non-members, please register using the name of the WELS church with which you associate.)
Please note the Workshop Numbers of the topics you wish to attend and enter those numbers on the Registration Form as your choices and alternates. Register early for a better chance of getting your choices. Registration deadline: Feb. 27.
Please note that you are registering for workshops, not for timeslots. Most topics are planned to be presented multiple times. In a few cases, however, a particular topic will be offered only once or twice, depending on the availability of the presenters. The number of times a topic is offered will also depend on how many register. The details will not be known until the registration deadline.
What if I miss the registration deadline? You may “late register” on the day of the Workshop, but some sessions may be filled by that time, or cancelled if not enough people registered for a particular workshop.
What if I can attend only a part of the day? How do I avoid being scheduled for a session when I can’t be there? Please make this known on your registration form. If your choice is available when you can be there, you will be scheduled accordingly.
Can I find out before March 8, what my schedule is? No. We simply do not have the time or resources to provide that information.
What does it cost? The registration fee is $50 per congregation, regardless how many from a congregation attend. We hope this encourages congregations to send many of their members to the Workshop. If you plan to attend, please let your Treasurer or Pastor know you are coming and to where to send the registration fee. If you wish to eat lunch at the high school, each individual will need to purchase a lunch ticket at $5.00 each.
Do I need to bring anything? No. We will provide a [Thrivent] folder and have [Thrivent] pens or [Thrivent] pencils available. You may bring paper and other things [as long as they don't compete with Thrivent].
What if I cannot come after I have registered? Please let us know. That way we won’t turn people away from a class that would be full only if you attend.
Can I register by e-mail? Yes. Just be sure to include all the information asked for on the registration sheet. The e-mail address for registration is:
pastor@stjohnlutheran-valmy.org
.Please include only one person per e-mail, unless you are asking for exactly the same sessions and want to attend them together. Please enter “2008 Workshop registration” as the subject. Pastor Styx routinely deletes e-mail messages he does not recognize without opening them. If you don’t use this subject identifier, your message will probably be deleted. The deadline for e-mail registration is the same as for the standard form: February 27.
Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Run Kids - Ski At Fox Valley Today":
Mr. Worms, that is a good link to what the WELS is up to.
This is from the list of offerings: 14. WELS Women as Christian Leaders – Kathie Wendland,
"During the "Heirs Together of God's Gracious Gift of Life" Bible study preparation it became clear Scripture does not generically prohibit woman as leaders in the LORD's church. However, during that study it also became clear that many of us, men and women, have been confused by the world's concept of leadership and the world's understanding of headship. This session will look at Christian leadership and the blessings that honoring Scripture's headship principle bring to women leaders as Scripture defines those concepts. This WILL be an active participation Bible study!"
Kathie's quote, "Scripture does not generically prohibit woman as leaders in the LORD's church."
Here's her WELS presentation about how women will be made leaders in the church or the church will lose them. http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2009/02/church-door-symposium.html
Here's Luther's stance on this very popular garbage being fed to all churches: Martin Luther states in “Lectures on 1 Timothy” (Luther’s Works, Vol. 28) 1 Tim. 2:11. “Let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. I believe that Paul is still speaking about public matters. I also want it to refer to the public ministry, which occurs in the public assembly of the church. There a woman must be completely quiet, because she should remain a hearer and not become a teacher. She is not to be the spokesman among the people. She should refrain from teaching, from praying (ie: leading in prayer) in public. She has the command to speak at home. This passage makes a woman subject. It takes from her all public office and authority.”
In Christ,
Brett Meyer
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Anything Goes District Evangelism":
The info presented here is from the 2008 workshop. Today was the 2009 workshop (and James Skorzewski was a presenter). There were about 20 workshops today. If I can find my schedule I will post it.
My reaction to this year's 2009 workshop is similar to the original poster's reaction to last year's workshop.
WELS has died :(
Run Kids - Ski At Fox Valley Today
Ski borrowed a shirt and tie from Goodwill.
From the pricey executive assistant, Ski's editor:
Up way too early on a Saturday morning. At FVL for evangelism workshop. Skis (sic) presenting. Gotta run the computer.
about 2 hours ago from Tweetie
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(DP, Anything Goes District in Northern Wisconsin)
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GJ - OK, I give up. What evangelism has Ski done in the last few months? Presenting Craig Groeschel's thoughts as his own? Talking to people at Starbuck's? Showing the Wizard of Oz? The 30 minute service followed by the three-hour party? The totally awesome website?
Paul Is Appealing,
But Peale Is Appalling
Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Same Old Baloney: Leadership Principles for Church...":
Norman Vincent Peale must fit in here somewhere because I hear the New Age doctrine of Possibility Thinking in what the Church Growth pushers say when they gather on the corner of Maple and Straight to Hell Dr.
Same Old Baloney:
Leadership Principles for Church Growth, Emerging Church, Becoming Missional
I attended a national business conference where John Maxwell was the featured speaker. The CEO brought his children, so I was ready to charge him with child abuse. The poor little kids were taking notes. Maxwell, knowing who wrote the checks, knelt on the stage and spoke directly to the children. Their ecstatic father was transported with delight.
Innocent and beguiled, told that he was a great speaker, I ordered two Maxwell books before the conference. When they arrived after the conference, leather-bound, they made a fast trip to the return bin at the post office.
I complained to someone who heard all the greats at the headquarters of a retail giant. All media celebrities, from Al Gore to famous entertainers and sports stars, are regulars for the Saturday sessions.
I moaned, "How can someone so famous be such a hot air merchant?"
The retailer explained to me, "There are only about 50 things to say about leadership. They all recycle the same things, over and over. One speaker is as good as the next. Believe me, I have heard them all."
Over the years I have listened to plenty of tapes, starting with Management by Objective by Peter Drucker. That is why I smelled a rat when WELS leaders began talking the same line as I heard from LCA leaders. Fuller professors ape MBO: they are the Prime Movers in treating the Church as a business. In that regard they have done well for themselves but served the Lord very poorly indeed.
Sidebar: The best take on all this came from a lifelong union member at General Motors, who was in my class. I had a struggle naming one book he had not read and remembered well. He said, "They are always looking for the Type A personality, but now they realize that those domineering bullies are the ones who wreck their companies." If someone had taken his advice at the moment, a wise investor would have sold all stocks short - long before the meltdown.
A business philosophy is the core--to coin a term--of all these apostate trends: Church Growth, Emerging Church, Becoming Missional. If I cared to attend Catalyst, Drive 08, Exponential, or any other pan-denominational lovefest, I would hear a lot of Andy Stanley recycling John Maxwell recycling Peter Drucker. In fact, the business conference I attended earlier was led by Evangelicals, Pentecostals, and Roman Catholics who merged business with their Prosperity Gospel, giving me the uneasy feeling that I was indeed at another Fuller seminar. (I attended one when asked by a member of St. Paul, German Village. There Robert Schuman brought a bevy of the beguiled. Soon after, Schuman was selling Thrivent insurance. Maybe they weren't beguiled.)
WELS and Missouri continue to use the same business model employed so successfully by Fuller Seminary. McGavran and C. Peter Wagner started at the top by inviting the world mission executives of all the denominations to their scrofulous school. Once they bewitched the executives, it was easy for the useful idiots to refer downward. (Referring upward is much more difficult.) If the boss thinks it is a great idea, the sub-boss will think it is a great idea and recruit his junior managers, who will get funds for the pastors and laity to attend the same brain-washing sessions.
WELS and the LCMS teach these apostate trends in unison, with the tiny ELS and CLC shouting their little Amens. Sweet spoke at Our Lady of Sorrows in St. Louis and the sem president swooned. Sweet spoke to the Church and Changers while Paul Kelm stood unmoved by pleas he was polarizing the synod. Stetzer is speaking to Missouri and WELS in 2009. Is it possible both sets of Church Shrinkers listened to him at the same pan-denominational lovefest? VP Don Patterson (Kudu Don) organized a troop of WELS people to attend that conference.
The Purposeful Church by Rick Warren, John Maxwell, Peter Wagner, Reggie McNeal
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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Same Old Baloney: Leadership Principles for Church...":
What is interesting is that these MBO concepts are a failure in the secular business world as much as they are in any congregation. I was also a union member for many years at a division of GM. The assessment of GM by one of your students is quite correct. GM had all kinds of programs, slogans, acronyms along with the type A managers. They even had mission and vision statements. The plant where I once worked is an empty shell with a For Sale in front. The Lutheran congregations that try this nonsense will probably end up the same way. At my WELS congregation, we are constantly bombarded with this claptrap about leadership, available at workshops and conferences. Yet, there is not even a hint of an offering of any serious doctrinal studies in the Lutheran Confessions for our laity. Go figure.
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GJ - Ask for a study of any part of the Book of Concord and the pastor will sneer. Our little congregation just finished a study of the entire Book of Concord. We are now studying doctrinal comparisons. It's all available (free) at our Ustream website address. In the future we will study Pietism (many weeks) and the Leadership Principles of John Maxwell (5 minutes).