Get whacked!
I think letter writing in WELS is a joke. The letters either get shredded or put in the local recycle trash bin.
Either way they are ignored and worse yet the folks writing the letters are put on the hit list, if you will.
Maybe the only thing left is someone standing up at a district or better yet the national convention. If that person is told to sit down then we will see if anyone else in attendance has a spine to stand up also. Just a thought.
I like the pictures on Ichabod. The animals you show are so funny. It does remind one of how people act.
[This source is so deep undercover that his code name is in hexadecimal - 29a.]
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The Time of Grace logo says 'Straight Talk. Real Hope.'
My real hope is that just once we'd get some straight talk from our synod officials on exactly what is going on synod-wide. There are so many issues that need to be addressed. No more behind the scenes actions. No more 'so and so is looking into it'. No more waiting.
The time has come for some pastors or teachers to be confronted publicly. But what is the delay? These matters should be urgent! Sound the alarm and wake up! We're losing ground with every day that goes by. Our church is slipping away from us right before our eyes. The leadership is lax, many pastors are unwilling to do their jobs, and the laypeople are getting restless.
I, for one, as lifelong member of WELS, am ready to jump ship. What can we do? To whom should we take our concerns? My real hope is that this Synod will be led back to a truly conservative and confessional Lutheran church body and the rascals in opposition to it will marked and avoided, not elevated and promoted. Unfortunately my real hope is waning.
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GJ - I was told, "Write a letter!" about Columbus, and I also spoke directly to everyone involved, only to hear a bunch of lies. My letters to DP Robert Mueller were not even acknowledged - until I copied everyone in Creation and the ELS President, George Orvick.
I wrote and spoke about the false doctrine of Church Growth and the Michigan District's support of an adulterous fake pastor. That was 20+ years ago. Church Growth has morphed into New Age Emergent Church plagiarism. The fake pastor is still in Columbus, because WELS and the ELS supported him and got him a new call.
As 29a said, letter writing will only put someone on the WELS hit list. Perhaps that was misspelled. No, not that word. The hate list. WELS really knows how to hate on anyone who tells the truth.
I recently sent a registered letter to three WELS pastors. All three were signed for, including the one I sent SP Schroeder. He finally admitted he received the letter, months later. He did not respond to the letter itself. Neither did the two WELS pastors.
So write a letter. Join the hit list.
This letter saw no definitive action in one whole year, except Pastor Ski taught Satan's Sex Ed (Groeschel again) to the whole community in pan-denominational effort.
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We must remember who we are dealing with here. If you work in an ethical, secular business environment, you can take people at their word. I used to work with a gent who was always dispensing shoddy financial advice. He took a bath in stock market downturns three times. After his son lost his house, he advised me against having my son buy a house. His co-workers had a saying, "whatever Gene says, do the exact opposite".
One bad experience could be considered an anomaly. The WELS powers that be have repeatedly proven that letter writing is not the act to engage in. I believe that it is a trap. If you don't write a letter, you will be castigated for not following their recommendation. If you do write a letter, you are placed on the hate list. This is actually a political tactic as it will draw out the opposition so that they can be identified. It would be akin to a battle where you get your enemy to fire first to reveal his position.
Writing letters to the synod is a big joke. You will be ignored or patronized (and then be shunned).
So if moving through official channels won't work, whaddya do? It's tough to know what to do about the WELS. Nothing is impossible with God, so I do believe the WELS might be fixed--but it is a quagmire. Here's one example: People over at Insipid Lutherans are saying that without UOJ, faith becomes a condition for Grace and Salvation. As far as I know this is a typical attitude towards that doctrine. But think about it: UOJ teaches that all are righteous because all have been forgiven, and yet not all will go to heaven. Only those with faith go to heaven. So isn't UOJ actually making faith a condition?
Real Lutheranism teaches that God demands a condition of perfection, which men, of course, cannot achieve. God in his mercy provided Christ, who became the perfect sacrifice and substitution; through faith alone is Christ's righteousness placed on us. Through faith alone does God forgive us our sins for Christ's sake. We can't believe on our own either. In mercy upon mercy, God provides us with his Holy Spirit through the Word to create and sustain this saving faith in us.
According to UOJ, God certainly doesn't demand a condition of perfection, since, according to UOJ, all are already righteous and yet some go to hell. So, God must demand something else besides righteousness, right? What is left but faith? Faith becomes the central focus. It's nearly belief in belief.
But back to my point, unraveling that is a messy nasty business. That is a complicated bit of verbage, even for honest theologians, and you'll notice that guys like Rydecki and Webber truly shine in ambiguity. I doubt if real Lutherans will ever win in a theological argument, because you'll never pin 'em down. (and not to harp on it too much, but watching WELS pastors get out of hot water, and backing out of their words is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. LCMS pastors too. It reminds me of watching CSPAN. Brilliant subterfuge.)
Real Lutherans aren't going to beat the Crypto-pentecostal-baptalicious UOJ Storm Troopers at their own game without becoming them. How do we untangle this mess? What I described is just one of many issues. How the heck is it even possible? At what point do we shake the dust off our feet, recognizing that we've done all we can: testify from Scripture? I don't think a mass exodus from the W(ELS) and LCMS could come soon enough.
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