Wednesday, May 4, 2011

Dan Johnson Asks the Intrepids



It has now been over a month since the meeting with regarding the issues at St. Peter, Freedom raised by Rick Techlin. He brought forward charges of false doctrine. Several pastors have stood behind him (see http://www.intrepidlutherans.com/2011/02/why-i-no-longer-attend-my-wels-church.html - "All the editors at Intrepid Lutheran stand behind him one hundred percent.") Therefore, someone must to be promoting false doctrine - whether it be the accused or the accusing pastors. As these accusations were made public, there ought to be a public retraction or reprimand of one of those groups. Are we to expect any more public word on this? This issue, and now the silence following it, has deeply shook my confidence in our synod - that it is really committed to pure doctrine. When there are charges of false doctrine made by pastors about pastors publicly, there cannot be dead silence following. Intrepids -- what do you know about the status of this? Dan Johnson

The Secret Revealed - Youth Do Not Want Pop's Music in Church.
Grandparent Are Right.



Jimmy James has left a new comment on your post "Cacophony Defined: WELS Emergent Church. Rock N R...":

Well....gotta give 'em credit for using the right music! (Sarcasm intended....)

Seriously, I can recall a group of young people telling me a few years back; "Why do they think these contemporary services cater to us? This is the kind of music my parents listen to! Why would I go to a service with their style of music?"

You would be amazed at the number of young people who LOVE the "old fashion" hymns, liturgy and general traditional worship of yesteryear. Remember, anything that grandma and grandpa did while growing up is "cool" with the young folks! It's been that way for generations.

I like what Bill Cosby stated many years ago; "The reason why grandparents and grandchildren get along so well together is because they share a common enemy."

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GJ - While the Syn Conference was being rocked to sleep by Fuller/Willow Creek disciples, the LCMC grew to 500 congregations and the Bishops' Synod (NALC) also sprouted up.

One bishop said to a congregation, visitors can tell when there is tension. They do not need to be told. They never come back.

The same can be said for the Wisconsin and Missouri sects, not to mention the Little Sect on the Prairie. The clergy spend so much time posturing and hating each other out of their sects that people feel the hate. The Olde Synodical Conference cannot even attract decent leakage from ELCA's come-outters (the straight kind).

The Olde Synodical Conference is not true to its own statements. People know that or sense that, in spite of 40-50 years of deceit and manipulation. The leaders are handing over their synods to the next generation, Dead On Arrival.

Cacophony Defined:
WELS Emergent Church.
Rock N Roll in Round Rock, Texas.



Warning - this morphs into "Crown Him with Many Crowns."

ca·coph·o·ny/kəˈkäfənē/
Noun: A harsh, discordant mixture of sounds: "a cacophony of deafening alarm bells"; "a cacophony of architectural styles", a "WELS pop music service."

I wish the videographer would have panned across the Easter crowd, ending with a graph showing how much money has been spent on this WELS mission, officially known as Christ the Rock Lutheran Church. The parish is also the Church From Scratch, if you slouch through the Church and Change website (which no longer exists--wink, wink--thanks to the brutal discipline of SP Schroeder). Hint - if you want a call or a big promotion, join Church and Change. You too can go overseas, or become an elderly campus chaplain, or spring back to life like Lazarus and write features for FICKLE magazine.

Craftiness, Guile, Deceit, and Peddling the Gospel


The previous post quotes J. P. Meyer and Lenski on using craftiness and huckstering in peddling the Gospel.

Those approaches remain the dominant themes in the Lutheran synods today. Craftiness (panourgia) is Satanic. Instead of being honest about issues, events, and doctrine, the ministers say:
  • I don't remember that.
  • Who told you?
  • That ca-a-a-a-n be understood correctly.
  • That is a gre-e-e-e-y area of Scripture.
  • No synod is perfect.
  • No translation is perfect.

    The craftiest parsons end up as DPs and SPs. Voting is a political process, and people like craftiness. As a DP, Jerry Kieschnick altered the will of an elderly lady, robbing her estate. His defense in court was "I am just a poor dumb pastor." The LCMS elevated him to Synod President, in honor of his craftiness.

    Gurgle pretended to be against amalgamation, until he was elected WELS SP. WELS pretended to ask everyone's opinion, then reversed the final vote. Next Gurgle, who already deceived everyone on amalgamation, told the district conventions that the plan would halt if it went overbudget. Once burned, twice shy? No, they loved it and approved what the national convention had actually voted down by a narrow margin. Craftiness works.

    Soon there will be no Lutheran schools left. They are all Christian academies now. Instead of training members in the liberal arts and Lutheran doctrine, they are selling private education to the masses, so the right people can have jobs and extra money.

    In doctrine, Syn Conf pastors will say the Reformation was based upon justification by faith. However, when challenged, they advocate Universalism as pure and untrammeled as Karl Barth's - everyone is absolved. Rather than welcome doctrinal clarification, they refuse to discuss the central article of the Christian faith. They also threaten and intimidate those laity who clearly profess the Book of Concord's confession of truth.

    The WELS Church and Changers pretend to go out of business (a lie told by Gurgle, now by Schroeder) and carry on merrily. Their counterparts in the LCMS, Little Sect, and abhorrent CLC (sic) follow the same path. But they all openly support one another.

    Meanwhile, the Book of Concord pastors and laity hide their names and communicate in secret, because of the enemies of sound doctrine will retaliate against them. One obvious example, already published, is Tim Glende's bullying of a member who brought up legitimate concerns about deceit, craftiness, and plagiarism.
  • The Wisconsin Sect Ignores the Good Parts of J. P. Meyer's Ministers of Christ



    "The type of minister to which we referred above as using entertainment in order to lure the people is employing panourgia, and is therefore guilty of committing secret things of disgrace. The Gospel is the word of Truth. To resort to ruses in proclaiming it, even though with the best of intentions, is heaping shame on the Truth. Not only are the truth and lures incompatible in their nature, but to use lures in connection with the Gospel ministry treats the Truth, the eternal Truth of God, as though it were inefficient, not attractive enough in itself."
    John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ, A Commentary on the Second Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, Milwaukee: Northwestern Publishing House, 1963, pp. 62. 2 Corinthians 4:2.

    "Because such is Paul's ministry, he cannot, on the one hand, stoop to trickery or an adulteration of the Word, to practice the hidden things of shame; nor can he, on the other hand, ever grow weary of administering so wholesome and glorious an office."
    John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ, 1963, p. 65. 2 Corinthians 4:2.

    "What he has to announce is not designed to lead men to a deeper understanding of nature, it is not science; nor to train them in the rules of hygiene, to produce a more healthy population; nor to teach them to procure greater wealth, or to get more satisfaction and enjoyment out of life; it is not even to elevate them to more idealistic views and to morally cleaner habits. No, he addresses himself strictly to the troubled consciences, promising them relief and peace."
    John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ, 1963, p. 65. 2 Corinthians 4:2.


    "The very fact that we, being such cheap and fragile implements, continue in our service unbroken is proof of the excellency of God's power, and is an incentive to renewed cheerful efforts on our part."
    John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ,, 1963, p. 72. 2 Corinthians 4:7.


    "Paul...is speaking about methods of preaching the Gospel. He means to say that you can introduce methods into your Gospel work which on the surface do not appear as shameful, but which in reality disgrace the Gospel. He is harking back to 2:17, where he spoke about kapeleuein, about 'selling' the Gospel. To use a coarse illustration: Some ministers in their eagerness to bring the Gospel to the people, resort to entertainment to attract the crowds, in order to get an opportunity to preach to them. If you would tell such ministers that they are ashamed of the Gospel and that by their methods they disgrace it, because they manifest a lack of trust in its efficacy, they would resent the charge. Are they not doing all in order to promote the Gospel? The disgrace their methods bring upon it does not appear on the surface; that is why Paul speaks of secret things of shame."
    John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ,1963, pp. 62f. 2 Corinthians 4:1-6; 2:17.

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    Panourgia means craftiness, as Lenski explained:

    Crafty conduct is paired with “adulterating the Word of God.” These two ever go together. He who is not honest with himself will not be overhonest with the Word. The reverse is also true—and the writer may be permitted to say that he has witnessed it too often—he who is not really honest with the Word cannot be trusted very far with his conduct. Δολόω = to catch with bait, to fix up something so as to deceive and to catch somebody. It is used with regard to adulterating wine. So here: “adulterating the Word of God,” not leaving it pure lest people reject it but falsifying it to catch the crowd. Of all the dastardly deeds done in the world this is the most dastardly. None is more criminal nor more challenging to God himself. Not adulterating the Word of God had its edge against the falsifiers who had come to Corinth, who also cast aspersions upon the genuineness of Paul’s teaching.
    Lenski, R. C. H.: The Interpretation of St. Paul's First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians. Minneapolis, MN. : Augsburg Publishing House, 1963, S. 955.


    KJV 2 Corinthians 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness (panourgia), nor handling the word of God deceitfully (Δολόω); but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

    KJV Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
    every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness (panourgia), whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

    Lenski again on craftiness:
    ΙΙανουργία is the ability to do anything, and this word is used in the evil sense of stooping to use the basest means, any and all such means, to gain one’s evil ends—“craftiness.” The outstanding example is the serpent and his deception of Eve in the Garden of Eden; ἐκ in the verb intensifies: “completely deceived.” Jesus used the same example in John 8:44. It is so effective because it is the first deception that entered our world, and because its results were so terrible. All other deceptions are the repetitions of this original, most fatal one, are the outcome of this radical deception.
    Lenski, R. C. H.: The Interpretation of St. Paul's First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians. Minneapolis, MN. : Augsburg Publishing House, 1963, S. 1238.
    KJV 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty (craftiness, panourgia), so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

    Lenski on hucksters:
    He certainly chose a telling word when he describes the many as (peddling the Word of God) καπηλεύοντες τὸν λόγον τοῦ Θεοῦ. A κάπηλος is a huckster, which is suggestive in a number of directions. He peddles cheap wares, he haggles about the price, he is known to cheat because he does not expect to return, he is out for his own personal gain. The ancient hucksters, for instance, peddled wine and adulterated it so that the verb that is derived from this noun came to mean adulterating wine, food, and the like. Philosophers used it a few times in characterizing the sophists as spurious philosophers; Paul is thought to adopt this use here. “Huckstering” is too common for such a restriction; Paul is not speaking philosophically to philosophers. He is using a word which everybody understands, a homely figure.
    Lenski, R. C. H.: The Interpretation of St. Paul's First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians. Minneapolis, MN. : Augsburg Publishing House, 1963, S. 903.
    KJV 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt (GJ - peddle) the Word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

    Various Call Situations - From Anonymoose -
    Dateline, Canada, Eh?



    A friend brought me a copy of the May 2011 The [ELCA] Lutheran. In it was an interesting article on "Congregation / Pastor matches: A Work in progress" (pp 20-25). The following quote is for your consideration: "Michael W. Rinehart, bishop of the Texas-Louisiana Gulf Coast Synod, took part in the meeting to assign this year's seminary graduates to regions (see page 25) and synods. He reported in his synod's newsletter that about 203 of the 1,200 to 1,400 vacant ELCA congregations have indicated an interest in a new graduate. About 250 people will graduate from ELCA seminaries in 2011, and 'quite a few of them have restrictions' on where they can go, Reinhart said. The conference ended up with about 209 candidate available for 203 vacancies, "about as close as I can remember it,"'he said " (p. 22).

    Well, that does raise the question of the difference between 203 and 250 graduates, or 47 real people (which is 18,8% of the pool of 250 graduating seminarians).

    From the article it sounds like a lot of those are disappointed. One seminarian reported that "some of her classmates have already been told they will soon receive profiles of congregations interested in calling a recent seminary graduate. ... Still she admitted that reality suggests that recent graduates may need a 'back up plan' to carry them through times when they are without a call" (p. 23).

    Then there was the self-serving statement from Stanley N. Olson, president of Wartburg Theological Seminary, that the "number of retirements is expected to increase soon" (p. 23). Where have we heard that before? [GJ - Stan and I were in class at Yale.]

    Of course there is the wringing of hands than new pastors "may owe tens of thousands of dollars in college and seminary loans." So the ELCA is trying to establish an endowment of $200 million to provide full tuition for everyone studying for rostered ministry in the ELCA. What planet are they living on; what are these people smoking? Also, not a word about those grads without a call.

    The funniest comment was: "The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod is able to place all of its seminary graduates, about 200 each year, said Glen Thomas, executive director of the LCMS Board for Pastoral Education" (p 25). Maybe the ELCA did not ask the "right" question or maybe Thomas is just lying.

    Then there is the blurb on "10 Years Together" (p. 9). May 1 will have marked the 10th anniversary of full communion between the ELCA and the Episcopal Church and the ELCIC and the Anglican Church in Canada. So Hanson and the Canadian Anglican primate, Fred Hiltz will preach at Holy Trinity Lutheran in Buffalo, NY, and ELCIC National Bishop Susan Johnson and Episcopal Presiding Bishop Katherine Jefferts Schori will preach at St. Paul's Anglican in Fort Erie, Ontario. Apostates together; how nice.