Friday, October 25, 2013

VP Schone - Who Approved the Gay Video Shown on YouTube and on Many Gay Sites - Gave a Chapel "Sermon" Against the Inherit the Wind Director

Schone's profile is expansive,
his taste in clothes, ghastly.

WELS' ineptly named Martin Luther College is known for taking a lot of money for a poor education, charging it up to federal student loans, and throwing students out for offending their fragile egos. Naturally, when a school knows so little about Lutheran doctrine or higher education, they ignore or praise the worst behavior while punishing those who think independently.

MLC managed to break into the news in Mankato and New Ulm for banning students from having any part in the classic theater work "Inherit the Wind," about the Scopes Monkey Trial, which centered around teaching evolution.

The school tried to deny pressure against students and the student director of the play, but Schone began "counseling" the director once a week.

I know of many instances of students forced out of the school or threatened with expulsion for nothing more than questioning something.

If you want to borrow $80,000 to have your child learn synod-think, by all means make MLC your only choice. But what use is half a degree and a pile of debt, plus a steamed ex-student filling up your rec room with his bed, video games, and Donald McGavran posters?

The Hawaiian guitar motif is so Lawrence Welk.

Change or Die!
Mark Jeske Bought Naming Rights for the Newborn and Pre-School Learning Center at Martin Luther College - WELS



WELS officials, always eager to make an extra dime with the Gospel, agreed to let Mark Jeske name the "Early Childhood Learning Center" - aka the Diaper Changing School.

Jeske reckoned he could start the children early while promoting his ELCA-LCMS-WELS program, also called Change or Die! and funded even more conveniently by Thrivent.

Jeske crowed, "We are beginning to see a seamless transition between birth, endless child-care, and loyal devotion to my media."

As most people realize, Time of Grace is designed for people with no ability to concentrate. It was test-marketed on ferrets and tweakers, who simply stared at Jeske moving from chancel to office to chancel to office, listening without comprehension or edification.

His PR director, Mark Schroeder, cheerfully called it "Valium for the soul."

Hochmuth-proof doors in the restrooms
at Change or Die! Learning Center.

"God Made Me Teach the Voters' Assembly Essential for the Means of Grace and the Call"

God should warn him about logical fallacies
and Lutheran doctrine,
because Cascione knows neither one.

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Reply to Rev. Boisclair

Thank you for the kind words. I’m not very good with compliments and have become accustomed to criticism. We all attempt to pursue what we believe to be correct. I think the creeds, objective justification, and voter polity are worthwhile pursuits. The fear of divine retribution for not speaking out, more than public service, is the primary motivation.

I think you are also aware of my efforts to publish numerically ordered cognates from the Bible in two editions of “In Search of the Biblical Order” over the past 27 years. My research recently led me to the writings of the great rabbinical author, Umberto Cassuto.

He broadened my perspective from repeated cognates throughout the Bible to the legitimacy of repeated word stems and phrases in Genesis and Exodus. A hybrid of his and my approach has led to astonishing results in the Gospels, with more than enough data for another book. The abundance of startling new information, that Kuske says he never seen before, points to Matthew as the first Gospel and template for the others. It has also revealed coordination between the four Gospels that defies comprehension. Either the Gnostics rewrote the Gospels or the Holy Spirit is the single author of all four books. Biblical exegesis is going to change.

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GJ - Cascione is starting to sound like Oral Roberts, another Enthusiast. Will God smite him if he does not feign his support for voters? What did Lutherdom do before coming to America?

Cascione is the same kind of dictator that Walther was, so he is truly Waltherian in the most sinister sense of the word.

The joke in the Midwest is - Cascione would let the voters vote, as long as they agreed with him.

Walther let the voters jabber about trivia matters. He decided alone who would go to certain parishes, so the Great Kidnapper was both the calling agency and advisor to the candidate.

The Cardinal's pope sells anti-Luther books,
just to make a profit,
but does not answer emails asking him why.
Otten promoted "The Facts about Luther" for Reformation."
Well-played, Cardinal and Pope.

Thursday, October 24, 2013

Cascione Gang Lies about Their Own History - Read Your Own Textbook - Zion on the Mississippi

The Great Walther is the prophet of UOJ,
but he learned it from his syphilitic bishop
and agreed with Bishop Stephan
that they they alone had the Means of Grace.


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I would second this, and I would also offer prayers for the people who are led astray from the truth as a result of this false doctrine. They have slipped too far to one side, which is a characteristic of heresy, i.e. a truth pressed too far in one direction. In turn, we who confess the biblical doctrine of objective justification must guard against Universalism, which is what the likes of Gregory Jackson accuse us of.
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I appreciate Rev. Boiclair’s comments.

Rydecki, ELDONA, and “Gottesdienst’s” problem with Objective Justification is Sacerdotalism. Martin Stephan, is the theological mentor for these (Hauptgnadenmittel) [head grace mediator] wanna-bees, not Calvin.

No one has forgiveness until the Bishop says they have it!

Their shibboleth is they will not quote any verses that support the formation of the LCMS in 1847.

The only publisher with the guts to speak out on the LCMS justification debacle is the most hated man in Lutheranism, the 80 year-old Herman Otten. [GJ - No, Luther is - as shown by this disgustingly ignorant chat forum.]
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Their shibboleth is they will not quote any verses that support the formation of the LCMS in 1847.

Hand them a copy of Die Stephan'sche Auswanderung nach Amerika and watch their hands start to burn. 
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I remember in the early years of this marvelous website, i.e. before 2001, that Gregory Jackson posted his own brand of this heresy, and all of us regardless of our differences on other issues unanimously opposed him. I want to commend Rev. Cascione for Reclaim News's clear refutation of this heresy in its latest posting.

In the past I regret to say that I was largely influenced by Loehism, but it was this attack on the biblical doctrine of Objective Justification that opened my eyes to what Rev. Cascione has indicated above. All of us need to celebrate the EASTER ABSOLUTION that Walther proclaimed in his Gospel sermons.

I would like to commend Rev. Cascione for three of his greatest accomplishments in the years of his ministry: 1) his advocacy of the return to the use of the ecumenical creeds in our worship (to counter what was known as "Creative Worship"), 2) his advocacy for the retaining of the name "Lutheran" by the churches of our Confession, and 3) his constant endeavor to maintain Walther's biblical Church polity: voter supremacy. Brother Cascione, thank you. You are a continuing blessing to your church.

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The Episcopalian Leaders Remind Me of the SynCon Leaders - They Hate the Conservatives and Kiss Up to Apostates

Are those three inter-connected fish supposed to be the Trinity?
ABC Welby.
http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=18155#.UmkakXBtiSo

NAIROBI: FROM MY EAR TO YOURS

By David W. Virtue in Nairobi
www.virtueonline.org
October 21, 2013

The buzz here is that Archbishop Justin Welby is being regarded by many of the Primates as "Rowan reheated". Apparently, he turned up in Nairobi irritated and angry that he had to stop over to chat with these evangelical Anglicans while enroute to Iceland to meet with a group of Pro-gay Porvoo ecumenical churchmen. He clearly regards these GAFCON Anglicans as not being in step with his view that we can all get along because we all have different sins to wrestle with and we should not single out homosexuals for special opprobrium.

Of course, this belies the fact that it is the homosexual lobby that started this particular battle in the first place while his predecessor screwed the whole issue up so badly, he was forced to step down. While Welby says he opposes gay marriage, he sees a difference between that and civil partnerships and argues that the culture has gone for it; therefore the church needs to rethink its attitude towards homosexuality. We are not living in First Century times, he argues. But keeling over to the culture is precisely what the Early Church did not do. The church does not change or alter its doctrine to accommodate passing fashion.

One priest, who experienced the devastation the gay lobby did to his church, says the whole subject is just Gnosticism redressed in modern garb with a dash of compassion to make gays feel good about what they do.

Other challenges are that Welby just doesn't get the fact that this is spiritual warfare and that Global South leaders are not going to cave into him and his flawed position on sexuality.

ELCA's new gay bishop is on the right -
Guy Erwin was the professor of confessional Lutheranism before his enthronement.
Glasspool is in the middle.
Gene Robinson is on the left.
All three are famous for the same thing.


GENE ROBINSON VISITS LAMBETH PALACE

To make matters worse, in London on October 17, former New Hampshire gay Bishop Gene Robinson tweeted that he had breakfast with the new Archbishop of Canterbury at Lambeth Palace, and Morning Prayer in 13th Century chapel.

When VOL inquired of Lambeth Palace for further details, we were told that this was a "private meeting" and therefore the ABC had no comment.

What sort of a signal do you think that sends GAFCON primates like Nigerian archbishop Nicholas Okoh whose 18 million strong province is solidly biblical and solidly opposed to homosexuality? And please don't accuse him of homophobia. He and his fellow archbishops and bishops don't hatehomosexuals, they just don't approve of what they do in bed. It's all about hating the sin and loving the sinner.

It's this kind of thing that Welby does that sends these primates into apoplectic fits. On the one hand, Welby comes across as evangelistically driven. Then he cozies up to gays like Robinson to show how inclusive and full of diversity he is. It sends precisely the wrong message to the Communion. In the end, Welby will be the loser. He won't get the support of these GAFCON archbishops. He will permanently sour relations with them, forcing them once again to be no shows when he calls for a gathering of the Primates. He also hasn't signed the Jerusalem Declaration, another missed milestone as it calls for the recognition of the ACNA, something he is apparently not prepared to do despite photo ops here at the cathedral with Archbishop Robert Duncan.

Welby is continuing his shuttle diplomacy. He told us that he will have visited all 37 the provinces by next year. He has yet to visit TEC's Presiding Bishop, which will be a real doozy of an occasion and closely watched, especially as Archbishop Okoh also visits the US from time to time. Okoh won't go near Jefferts Schori, choosing instead to tend to his growing CANA flocks across the country, clearly not giving a damn about crossing borders or phoning KJS or dropping in for tea at 815 2nd Avenue. However, VOL has been told that he will be in Kansas next week. I wonder if he knows anything about trains. 

It was Welby, in his first sermon, who said that there was no moral equivalence between gay sex and crossing boundaries, but later modified his statement in a second sermon. 

According to the ABC, the structures that lead it are broken. In response to Welby's sermon, Anglican TV guru Kevin Kallsen commented, "Shame on those who are trying to fix the structures and are willing to put order ahead of faith."

One, the former, is clearly prohibited by scripture, the other, noted GAFCON chairman Archbishop Peter Jensen, has to do with the faith and order and faith trumps order any day.

As one scholarly former TEC priest now in ACNA said to me, "If I were given the opportunity to meet Welby, I would ask him if he recognized my priesthood as I had been deposed by Katharine Jefferts Schori and was now a priest in ACNA, a good solid Anglican and former seminary professor. I wonder if he would recognize my orders." We wonder indeed.

Bumped into Nara Duncan who told me her husband Bob Duncan, ACNA Archbishop, was in serious pain due to a tooth abscess. One side of his face was seriously swollen. Late last night we were told over dinner that he had received medical treatment here despite it being a national holiday. A news report that he had been medi-vaced back to the US was inaccurate.

There are now two very different DNA's in the Anglican Communion and they are irreconcilable. The future is yet to unfold. 

It is an interesting historical vignette that more than a dozen years ago, PB Frank Griswold flew to London to tell George Carey not to recognize the Anglican Mission in the Americas. In April of this year, just before Welby's installation as the next Archbishop of Canterbury, Fred Hiltz, Canadian Archbishop raced across the Atlantic and pled with Welby not to recognize the ACNA. Things don't change that much, it would seem.

The conservative wing of the Anglican Communion is still sizing Welby up, but this writer believes that the end will not be one he likes. It's hard not to like him, personally, but his views are a stumbling block to full unity. Taking a neutral stand on issues like sexuality is not in the theological DNA of the Africans who make up the bulk of this gathering which includes the messages, music...and it is nearly all African in content and style.

Stay tuned.


Virtue Online likes my Photoshop of
Presiding Bishop Jefferts-Schori.