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Monday, May 30, 2011
The School of the Masters Disembodied Themselves
And Revealed All To Napoleon Hill, Whose Pupil,
Robert Schuller, Began the Church Growth Movement
"Now and again I have had evidence that unseen friends hover about me, unknowable to ordinary sense. In my studies I discovered there is a group of strange beings who maintain a school of wisdom which must be ten thousand years old, but I did not connect them with myself. Now there is a connection. I am not one of them!--but I have been watched by them."
Napoleon Hill, Grow Rich With Peace of Mind, New York: Fawcett Crest, 1967, p. 158. check quote
"'I have come,' said the voice, 'to give you one more section to include in your book. In writing this section you may cause some readers to disbelieve you, yet you will write honestly and many will believe and be benefited. The world has been given many philosophies by which men are prepared for death, but you have been chosen to give mankind a philosophy by which men are prepared for happy living...I come from the Great School of the Masters. I am one of the Council of Thirty-Three who serve the Great School and its initiates on the physical plane.'" [Hill explains]: "That is the school of wisdom which has persisted secretly in the Himalayas for ten thousand years...From the remotest days of antiquity, the Masters of the Great School have communicated with each other by telepathy."
Napoleon Hill, Grow Rich With Peace of Mind, New York: Fawcett Crest, 1967, p. 158f.
"The School has Masters who can disembody themselves and travel instantly to any place they choose in order to acquire essential knowledge, or to give knowledge directly, by voice, to anyone else. Now I knew that one of these Masters had come across thousands of miles, through the night, into my study."
Napoleon Hill, Grow Rich With Peace of Mind, New York: Fawcett Crest, 1967, p. 159.
[Great School's message to Hill:] "You have passed through the Jungle of Life safely. Now you must give to the world a blueprint with which others may traverse that same Black Forest."
Napoleon Hill, Grow Rich With Peace of Mind, New York: Fawcett Crest, 1967, p. 160.
"One day I overheard my stepmother say to my father: 'The only real devil that exists in this or any other world is the man whose business is that of making devils.' I accepted this statement instantly and never have departed from it."
Napoleon Hill, Grow Rich With Peace of Mind, New York: Fawcett Crest, 1967, p. 212.
"I do not even attempt to guess the over-all purpose or plan behind the universe. So far as I can tell, there is no plan for man except to come into this world, live a little while, and go."
Napoleon Hill, Grow Rich With Peace of Mind, New York: Fawcett Crest, 1967, p. 213.
"Whatever THE MIND OF MAN can CONCEIVE and BELIEVE it can ACHIEVE."
Napoleon Hill, Think and Grow Rich, New York: Fawcett Crest Books, 1937, revised 1960, p. 32.
Wikipedia on Napoleon Hill
Robert Schuller and New Age Thinkers Hill, Stone, Peale, and Paul Y. Cho.
Who is the founder of seeker sensitive religion?
Robert Schuller stated “An undisputed historical fact is that I am the founder, really, of the church-growth movement in this country ...I advocated and launched what has become known as the marketing approach in Christianity” (Pritchard, Willow Creek seeker services 1998 p.51).
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GJ -
At one WELS training event, a WELS pastor, who was leading the event, sold copies of a Cho book from the case of books he brought along. And yes, of course, he was a Church Shrinker. And Cho's book was give a foreword by Robert Schuller hisself.
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C. Peter Wagner, Fuller Seminary, Agrees with Ichabod:
CG Principles Do Not Work
(Because They Are Anti-Biblical)
"I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with the church-growth principles we've developed, or the evangelistic techniques we're using. Yet somehow they don't seem to work." C. Peter Wagner
Ken Sidey, "Church Growth Fine Tunes Its Formulas," Christianity Today, June 24, 1991, p. 47.
"The Fuller Evangelistic Association has a doctrinal statement. It is the statement which was adopted by Fuller Theological Seminary some time ago. It does not differ from their early statement and has never yet been changed, that I know of. This statement explicitly affirms that the Bible is free from all error in the whole and in the part. Both Dr. Hubbard and Dr. Fuller are part of that organization. This means they are signing two different doctrinal statements, one of which affirms inerrancy and one which does not. We also know that Dr. Hubbard frankly disavows inerrancy and even declares this view to be 'unbiblical.'
Harold Lindsell, The Bible in the Balance, Grand Rapids: Zondervan Publishing House, 1979, p. 220.
"The graduates of an institution usually give full proof of the teaching they received from the school in which they studied. According to Dr. LaSor's observations the leaven was present when David Hubbard, Daniel Fuller, and Ray Anderson were students. They went from Fuller to graduate study overseas and were promptly converted to the neoorthodoxy and liberalism of their professors. They returned to Fuller Seminary having moved farther to the left than any of their teachers at Fuller. And now their students in turn begin to reflect their views."
Harold Lindsell, The Bible in the Balance, Grand Rapids: Zondervan Publishing House, 1979, p. 236.
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GJ - Anti-inerrancy, unionism, and women's ordination came into Missouri, WELS, and the Little Sect on the Prairie via Fuller Seminary study, which was universal for world mission and American mission leaders. The so-called mission counselors in WELS are simply salesmen for Fuller Seminary and its bastard offspring, such as Willow Creek and the rest of the humbugs.
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Big Synod Bucks for Holy Word in Austin, A Wealthy Parish
Monday, May 30, 2011
Holy Word - 30 + year old congregation receives extensive mission dollars
http://www.holyword.net/Summer Vacation Bible Study (VBS)One-of-a-Kind ZooJune 20th through June 24th
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- http://www.holyword.net/
- Vicar in Mission Setting - Sent to Holy Word-
- Mission Encouragment resources sent to Holy Word North
- The Antioch Foundtion looking to support Church Growth methods:
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Funding was approved for two vicars to serve in the South Central District: Holy Word – Austin, TX (Don Patterson), and Beautiful Savior – College Station, TX (Caleb Schoeneck). Redeemer – Edna, TX (Andy Schroer) is an alternate. [Note: The vicar who serves at Grace – Scroggins, TX (Vilas Glaeske), is not part of the ViMS program.] DMB Report.
GJ - Note that Schoeneck is part of the odious Patterson network.
Antioch gives to only one denomination - WELS. Holy Word got their grant on 6-23-2010. That must have been to hire their first woman pastor, aka deaconess.
Church and Change has all four trotters and snout in the Antioch trough, grunting away. None for you if you are a faithful Lutheran.
WELS - Upon My Face Imprint Thine Image:
The Jackboots of Love
Brett Meyer on Joe and Lisa Krohn Being Kicked Out
Joe Krohn - Stay at Home, Pastors
Joe Krohn on New Deaconess Effort
Joe Krohn - On Rock N Roll (Doebler's Mission)
Kudu Don Patterson Demands That Joe and Lisa Krohn Repent
The Same Jackboot Approach When an Attorney Objected To False Doctrine in Appleton
Luther Rocks Is Joe Krohn's Blog
The Intrepids Have Touched on This Topic - With Some Trepidation and Cardio-Palpitations
Big Bucks for Holy Word, Austin, A Wealthy Congregation
Cornerstone-Church and Change Connection
Joe Krohn Reponse to WELS Pastor Rydecki
Another Layman Writes about Being Kicked Out of WELS, Long Ago
Joe Krohn on Intrepids' Post
Joe and Lisa on Their Excommunication.
A Response to the Excommunication
With Heavy Hearts and Heavier Boots
Ft. Wayne's Mistake on the Lake
Bruce Church wrote about the Concordia Seminary, Ft. Wayne Library in this post:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/05/at-home-in-knappy-synod-ft-wayne-more.html
I was impressed with the original library, which was simple and packed with plenty of good books. I attended one of the gatherings when Wenthe was proposing his expensive building project, based on improving the library. That was many years ago, perhaps 1992.
Now that both seminaries in Missouri are failing, even with their Yale Divinity level tuition, the folly of the Mistake on the Lake is clear.
Books are no longer the essential of a seminary education. A student can carry far more ebooks on one digital device in his hand than their pulp equivalent in a large car. Many books are still handy for study, but how do they compete with Lenski, 40 translations of the Bible, grammatical helps for the Bible, and Luther on a hard drive?
That is just part of the folly.
Even worse is spending all that money on a gaudy complex while starving future students with enormous tuition loans. Did anyone on the faculty consider how they are living like princes on the government loans taken out by their students, on the puny salaries earned by the seminary wives?
How many seminary professors leave seminary teaching (willingly) for a parish? That is a cushy job.
The Syn Conference leaders have several great ways to improve their sects:
1. Raise more money.
2. Build more buildings.
3. Use the vast resources of the stewardship department to locate rich adulterers who want to buy indulgences, i.e., buildings named after them.
4. Rely on Thrivent loot.
5. Beg the foundations to expand their work for the Lord in a generic, non-threatening way.
Asking All the Questions - Including the Good Ones
LPC has left a new comment on your post "Intrepid Rydecki Back to Justification by Faith, W...":
Pr. Greg,
Indeed that is a very very good question!!! It is NOT confusing and it is NOT a bad question. Goodness what an opportunity.
Rev. Paul R is in a corner so rather than answering the question he changes it. He is skipping the question.
Of course, forgiveness is not distributed without the means of grace.
So then forgiveness therefore is not distributed without repentance for it is the means of grace that creates repentance and faith. What is so hard in answering that question?
What is happening to him is like the Federal Visionaries of Calvinism. This group comes very close to the Lutheran view of the Supper but could not quite make it to the finish line and land on the Lutheran side. Why? Their ankles are chained to Calvin's separation of the Supper from the Holy Spirit. The influence is just too great because that would mean they are no longer Calvinists.
IMHO, this is similar to what is happening here. Rev. R. does not like to answer, because his ankles are tied to the poles of UOJ.
LPC
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GJ - On Sunday, Dr. Cruz garnered 500 page-reads on a single post here. Anyone who can beat the squirrel post is a winner.
Joe Krohn has also pushed back the squirrels in popularity.
At Home in a Knappy Synod -
Ft. Wayne More Waltherian Than St. Louis,
But Both Have Their Romanizing Cheerleaders
bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Bruce Church - McCormick Seminary's Big Waste of M...":
LPC, The Ft. Wayne seminary is much more enthusiastic about Walther than the St. Louis seminary, the seminary Walther founded. I think the reason is the second career students used to go to Ft. Wayne more, and they liked Walther's practical advice for teaching. Pr. Harrison is a Ft. Wayne grad, and he translated Walther and other LCMS patriarchs for his book.
The original library that Ft. Wayne built was the Walther library, and now they just expanded it greatly along the lake's edge. They like building along the lake there for some reason. To me, that's just a maintenance nightmare and they'll have to keep the dehumidifiers running all the time. Libraries and water don't mix.
I was told that Ft. Wayne used to be as liberal as St. Louis, but the same year St. Louis got in trouble, in 1974, was when Preus was called to be president of Ft. Wayne, and he made it more conservative and scholarly. It used to be the "practical" seminary. Now Ft. Wayne is more scholarly than St. Louis, some say. So you can see that Ft. Wayne tries to corner the market on wherever St. Louis is perceived to be weak and failing.
Just a month or two ago I saw on Steadfast Lutherans one of the posters arguing we need to send more seminarians to Ft. Wayne to support theologians like Dr. Scaer. There surely are cheaper ways to support theologians than that! Pr. Harrison now has plenty of empty offices and cubicles at the Synod HQ where theologians could work, and there's several large theological libraries in St. Louis.
Dr. Jackson has pointed out that a lot of these professors only teach nine hours per week. With a workload so light, they almost qualify as lay theologians:
David P. Scaer Chair of Systematic and Biblical Theology:
http://www.ctsfw.edu/Page.aspx?pid=386
Ft. Wayne buildings right on water with long walkways:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150155497476666&set=a.10150155493316666.288814.21700141665&type=1&theater
Preus came to Ft. Wayne in 1974:
http://www.ctsfw.net/media/pdfs/chronologyofrpreusworkatcts.pdf
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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Bruce Church - McCormick Seminary's Big Waste of M...":
Bruce,
May be the reason LC-MS sems can charge so much is because the student is guaranteed the proper interpretation of Walther's teachings.
I kid you not but I saw one time a blog openly say that Walther is the blogger's hero.
LPC
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