Thursday, September 15, 2011

Joe Krohn Did Not Open Pandora's Box -
It Opens Itself


THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 15, 2011

Epilogue 

We made one final attempt to get an answer from DP Pastor Vilas Glaeske on September 11, 2011 concerning our question. As of this writing we have not heard back.

Our response:

"Thank you for your kind wishes, Pastor Glaeske.

Your statement about the appeal process as ‘an internal procedure for WELS members’ we find paradoxical…since technically we were excommunicated and are no longer members of WELS as of 8-28-2011 and/or even before that. So the acceptance of fellowship and/or Holy Communion from another Confessional Lutheran Church body is really moot.

So our question still stands. I believe you have been caught by the gravity of truth as your question caught us.

As you most undoubtedly know, we have made this matter quite public. We would grant you anonymity as to the best of our ability; even by your conditions, if you would answer the question regardless….

Do you believe that all men were forgiven of their sins before they were born; before receiving Baptism or hearing the Word of God? There are Lutheran pastors including some in the WELS that refute this teaching.

In Christ,

Joe and Lisa Krohn"

I'll blog a little bit more about our view of the WELS and its 'confessionalism' through the portals of our experiences, but then it will be time to move on...shaking the dust as it were...


Build It and They--The Tetzels--Will Come



rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "The Lutheran Clergy Have Lost the Gospel":

At least Lenin was more honest when he called yes-men "useful idiots". There is a masonry evangelism program at a WELS congregation that I am very familiar with. Even before the expansion was put into place, the yes-men and yes-women were sought out and placed into positions as facilitators for the congregational forums. The whole process was well scripted.

The yes folks were convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that a multi-million dollar expansion was needed to save souls. This allowed the puppet masters to pull the heart strings and also to instill guilt into those who opposed expansion. The CG promoters were insulated from accountability. Even when Cornerstone Ministries was brought in to fleece the members, few members could see the man behind the curtain. Stealth plans are often needed to hide the rotten fruit of apostasy.


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GJ - The pastor retaliated against the Schutz family by refusing to let their son be a student in the school. However, no one even asked the teacher about the situation.

DP Glaeske's Letter Means: "Abandon Ship!"



bored has left a new comment on your post "Another Doctrinal Pussycat Lawyers Up":

I'm almost in disbelief. I almost thought that the letter by Glaeske was satire written by Dr. Jackson to exemplify the Satanic behavior of that little corner of the WELS. If only we were that lucky.

As of today, I am going to actively seek, not to merely forget the WELS, but to discredit, dismantle and destroy the Wisconsin Lutheran Synod. Up until I read Glaeske's letter I thought there was some hope for this body of churches, and thus have encouraged good pastors to stand up and fight. But there is no hope for that synod--there is no chance that the organization will do anything but slide further and further into apostasy.

Glaeske's methods remind me of the racist voting officials in the Jim Crow South, who'd charge Blacks a poll tax, but then throw out their ballots. Or like the Nazi's who'd take protection-money from Jews, only to send them to the gas chamber on bribery charges. This is not Hyperbole, folks. If this were not so serious I'd have photoshopped a picture Vilas the Vile doing something silly, but as it is, I have serious doubts if the man is even a Christian. Some might castigate me for doubting that, but it all seriousness, what about Glaeske's letter recommends his "faith"? All I see are thistles.

Thank Goodness for Joe and Lisa, who are prepared to give a reason for the hope they have. But how many faiths has Glaeske (and Patterson, his flying monkey) destroyed by similar tactics? I'm telling ya, this fool didn't just wake up one day and decide to write a dastardly letter. His Father has been training him tirelessly.

To the faithful Pastors in the WELS, among the many who (I imagine) secretly check in on Ichabod: If you take you Faith and your Call seriously then you know the proper response is looking you square in the face. GET YOUR CHURCHES OUT OF THE WELS before you and your congregations begin rotting. How can you sit by and watch this spiritual larceny take place? How can you stay silent with a good conscience? How can you remain in the WELS? Your so-called faithful leader, Mark Schroeder either lacks a spine, or has no concern for the WELS. If he were a good leader he'd love the Synod enough to be controversial, to drive a wedge between good and bad. If he were a man, Schroeder would've spent the last term braiding a whip out of cords. In reality, he's been using those cords to braid friendship bracelets for the Pietists.

These pastors who withhold the Means of Grace from the Krohns are guilty of misusing the Ministry of the Keys---but they hide behind the rubrics of the WELS to claim the opposite. Hopefully Glaeske and Patterson repent, because I don't think God is fooled by the semantic games of the WELS.

This head-fake excommunication is not uncommon. My Grandmother, Bette Trask was denied the Sacrament by Klemet Preus (LCMS) for objecting to his divorce and remarriage (while remaining a Pastor). She wasn't officially excommunicated...Oh no! Just blacklisted and turned away from the altar of every church in the area. Do these Pastors really think they will be spared judgment based on a man-made technicality? Gee, it's almost a psychosis.

The Lutheran Clergy Have Lost the Gospel


CFW Walther came from cell group Pietism.


One WELS veteran was correct in stating that his sect will never improve. The same can be said for the Little Sect on the Prairie and the Missouri Synod. ELCA has become the high-church version of the United Church of Christ, where all religions are the same, so Christians can worship with pagans, rejoicing. How little that matters to the Syn Conference ministry partners of ELCA

The micro-mini sects are simply worse versions of the Syn Conference.

Each sect has a program or plan to fix things - or rather - to take everyone's mind away from the real problem. The Lutheran clergy no longer teach the Gospel, justification by faith. Instead they have a program of works, starting with Pietistic cell groups and working downward from there.

Luther's sermons on faith and works make this plain. His Biblical emphasis upon justification by faith means that one cannot find spiritual fruit on a corrupt tree.

KJV Matthew 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Luther's sermons do not try to reform people with the Law. Nor does he dwell on carnal sins. He continually emphasizes the foundational sin of unbelief, relating that to many different aspects of daily life. For instance, fear of economic misfortune comes from lack of faith in God.

One of Luther's insights is the reverse side of the cross. Most people see the cross as a terrible burden to be avoided - and the clergy are especially good at that. The cross is not poverty or disease, but the difficulties associated with teaching and believing the Word of God. The reverse side of the cross is God not allowing unbelievers to see the spiritual fruit of believers. The unbelievers spend all their time and energy mocking every fault and problem they find in believers. Although they are a great burden, especially within the extended family, the greatest burden is their own, since they blind themselves to the fruit of the Gospel they despise so fervently.

Once that makes sense, District Pope behavior is the necessary outcome of their apostasy. Innocent clergy and laity think that citing Scripture and the Confessions will improve and explain matters for synodical leaders. That infuriates the DPs, motivating them to get revenge. Their response is typical. DPs viciously slander whoever dares to challenge them with the Word of God, which is bitter in their mouths. The primates get even - 50 times over, just to prove to the rest that no one questions the District Pope.

Synodical popes and professors are the result of the same process, so they are no different.

When I bring up doctrinal issues, the rebuttal is, "You are a bad person." Great efforts have been made to make sure that I am silenced in all Lutheran media. Trinity Lutheran Church in Bridgeton, Missouri, where I had been a member, told Christian News that they would not give Otten a dime while he published my articles. I was writing that justification without faith was wrong, and that was unforgivable in their eyes.

The so-called conservative Lutherans on the Net have given themselves hernias denouncing our little congregation, which they should commend - for broadcasting free books, free sermons, free worship services, free collections of quotations, and free research.

VP Don Patterson refused to discuss justification and the WELS-LCMS Tetzels from Cornerstone with Joe and Lisa Krohn. He was eager to promote UOJ when they were out of the way.

Patterson's cronies silenced Joe at the voters meeting, where he wanted to ask one question. The Doctrinal Pussycat, long regarded as a "conservative" leader in WELS, refused to answer a simple question.

As so many have seen, the same process has been used with the Krohn family, Rick Techlin, the Kokomo families, and California's family. WELS kicked out a whole group of clergy and congregations during the Protest'ant era, including their own seminary president.

Has anyone else wondered why WELS and Missouri are hotter than Georgia asphalt for cell groups? The Lutheran Pharisees want to impose their law on everyone, and cell groups are good for accomplishing that goal. The clergy say, "We must have cell groups for spiritual growth." They never mention the Means of Grace, except as an afterthought.

The cell groups must use certain materials, which brainwash the victims into accepting a heavy burden of remedies. The phony acceptance and love of the cell group maneuvers people into conforming with the master plan. If people get in the way, a truly successful pastor will eliminate the obstacles. Eventually he will have a gaggle of yes-men to act as his Rothweilers at all meetings. In return, he turns a blind eye to anything they do, because they were born forgiven. See Marvin Schwan as a well known example of this covenant for covens.

The Syn Conference is riddled with evil because the organization is the evil fruit of a corrupt tree. The WELS Church and Changers saw they could attack the Gospel behind the shield of the Wauwatosa Enthusiasm, the Caliban of Lutherdom. In Missouri, the conservative Pietists are organized against the liberal Pietists, never dreaming they are branches of the same corrupt tree of Enthusiasm.

KJV Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed [GJ - literally damned to Hell].

Ironies abound. In the name of the Gospel, all Lutherans [ELCA, WELS, LCMS, ELS, Micro-Minis] teach Universalism. Everyone, they imagine, is already forgiven. In their delusion they call Enthusiasm "grace." Amazing. They burn with indignation against anyone who prefers Luther and the Apostle Paul to their Moses, George De Benneville, and Walther. They respond to the real Luther-ans [dash used for emphasis] by excommunicating them.

The Lutheran leaders of today remind me of the "blessed" Council of Trent, where the theologians stomped their shepherd's crooks and chanted, "Anathema sit! Anathema sit! Anathema sit!" That was their response to justification by faith.

"Anathema sit! Anathema sit! Anathema sit!"


"Anathema sit! Anathema sit! Anathema sit!"

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