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Cox Internet went down minutes after the install, followed by the TV.

The repair people were great. I guess they don't move staff to repair from the collection department, the way Qwest does. I asked one Qwest person, who was being astonishingly rude, "Were you hired for your personality or were you trained to be like this?" The response was slamming down the phone, which is supposedly against the rules.

Funny Church Sign Sequence

A reader sent this in, and it is funny.

See What I Mean?

Clergy adultery is not a sin: it's a hobby. Addressing the issue is a sin.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Clergy Adultery Is Not a Victimless Crime":

Mr. Jackson,

You wrote: "No, I did not write this. No, my buddies did not write this. I do not know who wrote it, but I thought it sounded authentic."

You don't know who wrote it and you only "thought" it sounded authentic? But you still printed it anyway? I can now understand why people think you are always breaking the Eighth Commandment. Is this why you're not a pastor anymore?

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GJ - And there's more. See what I mean? This guy must be on disability or collecting a salary for no work done:

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "See What I Mean?":

A pastor is one who has a call to serve a congregation. Even the Augsburg Confession says so. Who issued your call? Your wife? You can call yourself a "Rev." or even a "Dr.", but not a "Pastor."

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GJ - I suspect he was weaned on a pickle, potty-trained at gunpoint.

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GJ - I do not know who wrote this particular rant, so I suppose by posting it I am again violating the 8th. I heard this so often in WELS that anything said in our house was followed by shouts of "Eighth Commandment!"

"You didn't take out the garbage."

"Eighth Commandment!"

I am a pastor, and I teach students to identify logical fallacies like the double question above: "Is this why you're not a pastor anymore?"

Note the Mr. Jackson sarcasm, etc. Poor fellow. No matter how many stinkbombs he throws, the clergy adultery situation remains the same. I could list the well known cases, like Fred Adrian's congregation losing a $400,000 lawsuit due to vicar adultery. The lawyers for WELS even listed many cases of abuse, and I have that list from the victim's lawyer. During the trial they knew of no cases at all, but the judge thought otherwise when presented with some facts provided by a former WELS pastor. The judge ordered WELS to tell the truth.

Court cases are another symptom of the problem. When the synod leaders cover up and deceive people, lawyers have a chance to make a killing.

Clergy adultery and the WELS-ELS coverup attempts are the reason I am no longer a WELS pastor.

Still Awaiting Word on the Kelm Call to The Love Shack, WELS

Fuller-trained, DMin in Church Growth from Our Lady of Sorrows LCMS Seminary in St. Louis, Paul Kelm has tirelessly promoted Reformed doctrine his entire career.

QUOTATIONS BY AND ABOUT PASTOR PAUL KELM (WELS)

"TELL has served the church faithfully for 15 years. Three editors have served; Ronald Roth (1977-84), Paul Kelm (1985-88), and the undersigned since 1989...The lead article in the first issue of TELL was titled 'Church Growth - Worthwhile for WELS.'...The author of this article in April 1988 issue of TELL concludes, 'It's obvious by now that I believe we in WELS can profit greatly from the writings of the church-growth leaders.' ... TELL as a separate publication ends with this issue. Nevertheless, the focus of The Evangelism Life Line will continue for years to come as an integral part of the new Board for Parish Services journal - PARISH LEADERSHIP.
Rev. Robert Hartman, TELL (WELS Evangelism) Summer, 1992.

"Our synod now has a fulltime executive secretary for evangelism. He's the Rev. Paul Kelm; and we need him. We need him to be our evangelism advocate."
Rev. Ron Roth, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Winter, 1985 p. 2.

"The Network of WELS Small Group Leaders. 1. Information on active/interested small group leaders. 2. The Resource Sharing Network led by Divine Savior in Indianapolis, Indiana [Pastor Dan Kelm]." WELS Campus Pastors, Small Group Training Conference, Jan. 7-9, 1991, Madison. p. 19. Finding the Receptive: People in Transition, by James Witt - "The Bible illustrates the people-in-transition receptivity principle very well. Converts such as Naaman, a leper; Ruth, a widow; the woman at the well, a five-time divorcee; the thief on the cross, a convict near death; were all people who in a period of transition were receptive to hearing the Gospel. The Receptivity-Rating Scale shown at left...
Paul Kelm, editor, The Evangelism Handbook, WELS Evangelism Appendix III,

"MOTIVATING AND ORGANIZING THE CONGREGATION AROUND THE GREAT COMMISSION" [This is the Donald Abdon view of relating all church structures to evangelism, as noted in Valleskey's PT notes.]
Paul Kelm, editor, The Evangelism Handbook, WELS Evangelism

"Don't let the world paint us into a corner of antiquarianism on subjects like a six-day creation or verbal inspiration."
Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," p. 13.

"Thesis Seven: Sound Apologetics Can Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good...Logic never converted anyone; but Christianity is logically defensible, once one makes reason ministerial to God and His Word...Read C.S. Lewis, Francis Schaeffer and Josh McDowell for practical apologetic tools. In fact, lend your copy to the prospect whose intelligence and education have become his curse. Once you've read Josh McDowell's 'Lord, Liar, or Lunatic' argument for the deity of Christ, you'll find yourself using it."

Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," p. 14. "PLANNING, long-range or short-range, should be S-M-A-R-T...specific...measurable...accepted...realistic...timed...."
Paul Kelm, editor, The Evangelism Handbook, WELS Evangelism p. 3.

"A last word on sound doctrine is in place. Sound doctrine must be distinguished from tradition, praxis and preference. The liturgy, translation of the Bible, vestments and organizational policies of the church are not equatable with sound doctrine." Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," p. 3. "Doctrines in controversy and applications to those doctrines are a disciple's meat. They are swallowed only after patient doses of discipling milk. The art of mission work is to preserve that sequence despite a prospect's desire to chew what he can't swallow."
Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," p. 3.

"Non-Christians usually become good prospects for personal reasons or as I like to say: 'They come for sociological reasons and stay for theological reasons.'" [Note: this is the felt needs approach of Fuller, also endorsed by Pastor Forrest Bivens, now a professor at Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary: "I went to Fuller Seminary and I happen to believe we can use sociological methods to bring people to church so we can apply the Means of Grace." Midland circuit get together, attended by Pastor - now DP - John Seifert.]
Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," p. 4.

"Thesis One: Sound Doctrine Sounds Good When Good People Sound it. Normally, people respond to other people before they respond to doctrine."
Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," p. 7.

WELS Mission Counselors' NEWSLETTER, April, 1992: authors are - James Woodworth, Disciples of Christ; "Net Results," March, 1991; Roger K. Guy, Disciples of Christ; Arnell P. C. Arn, American Baptist Church; Jane Easter Bahls, Presbyterian; C. Jeff Woods, freelance writer and minister; Lyle Schaller, United Methodist; Pastor Paul Kelm; Pastor Jim Mumm, WELS; Pastor Peter Panitzke, WELS; Pastor Randall Cutter and Mark Freier, WELS; First Congretional Church, Winchester, MA."
Pastor Jim Radloff, editor, WELS Mission Counselors' NEWSLETTER, April, '92, 2929 Mayfair Road Milwaukee, WI 53222. [GJ - Note how many WELS pastors listed here have left the Lutheran Church.]

"The mistaken announcement by a reporter from another Lutheran body was clearly repudiated in the March 15, 1992 issues of The Northwestern Lutheran. Yet you boldly state that the WELS continues to be a part of this project, in which it never participated. Dr. Jackson, I ask you to repent of your slanderous lie and retract it publicly. Galatians 6:1-2 leads me to ask this of you, for the sake of your spiritual life. Titus 3:10 urges me to ask this of you for the sake of the church. cc: District President Robert Mueller, Vice President Paul Kuske, Vice President Gerald Schroer, Rev. David Grundmeier, Rev. Gary Baumler."
Pastor Paul Kelm (WELS), Letter to Gregory L. Jackson, 9-23-92.

"Your September 21 article in Christian News perpetuates a lie, slanders leaders of your church and risks spiritual offense to weak brothers and sisters. You describe a conference on leadership in which fellowship lines were clearly drawn and at which testimony to the truths which separate Lutherans was publicly given as 'a joint ministry conference with a liberal agenda.' Then you add, 'Months later, the three groups [ELCA, LCMS, WELS] joyfully announced a joint religious radio show, Joy, also funded by Lutheran insurance money. WELS participated in 'Joy' from the beginning and continues to be a part of the project.'"
Pastor Paul Kelm (WELS), Letter to Gregory L. Jackson, 9-23-92.

"Small churches need not be small thinkers, but small-thinking churches will always remain small. Churches and people seldom go/grow beyond their expectations."
Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," See Waldo Werning and Robert Schuller for the same thought. Did the Apostles know this? p. 6.

"Small thinking churches typically budget to remain small."
Rev. Paul Kelm, "How to Make Sound Doctrine Sound Good to Mission Prospects," See Waldo Werning and Robert Schuller for the same thought. Did the Apostles know this? p. 7.

"Evangelism upside-down is starting with the subjective issues of perceived reality and working back to God's objective truths of ultimate reality - sin and grace. It's offering the attendant blessings of salvation as the 'hook' to gain an audience for God's plan of salvation." [felt needs used to sell the Gospel]
Paul Kelm, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Fall, 1985 p. 4.

"Upside-down evangelism may begin with different diagnostic questions. What do you want out of life? lets the other person pick the path for witness. How do you feel about where our society is heading? uncovers fears and needs without becoming too personal. What makes people happy (or unhappy) do you think? allows someone to express preceived [sic] needs in the third person."
Paul Kelm, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Fall, 1985 p. 5.

"Upside-down evangelism doesn't begin with personal sin and guilt, but rather with the consequences of sin. Societal consequences (for which each day's newspaper provides evidence) are the 'perceived need' door to understanding the alienation of life and people from God."
Paul Kelm, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Fall, 1985 p. 5.

"It's just easier for many people to work backwards from the subjective to the objective in their thinking. In fact, upside-down evangelism may start with gospel and work back to law, stating the solution as a prelude to the problem and clarifying both at the cross." [This is Moravian Pietism, as shown by Walther's Law and Gospel.]
Paul Kelm, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Fall, 1985 p. 5.

"Upside-down evangelism follows the path of least resistance to the God of gracious acceptance."
Paul Kelm, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Fall, 1985 p. 5.

"Lifestyle evangelism is the merger of visual and verbal witness, by the people Jesus intended, in the way that He modeled. It's the primary element in a church's strategy to win the lost." [Other endorsements from Rev. Burton Bundy, Church of the Lutheran Brethren, and Dr. Erwin Kolb, LCMS]
Rev. Paul Kelm, Evangelism, WELS
Your Invitation! Kent Hunter, (D.Min., Fuller; S.T.D., LSTC) Church Growth Center, Corunna, Indiana 46730 Phone 219-281-2452 Invitation for Heart to Heart Workshop,

"When planning the service, Rev. [Dan] Kelm and the worship committee decided immediately that there wouldn't be any organ music and that the usual Lutheran liturgy wouldn't be used."
Carol Elrod, "Pastor Hopes Seeks Will Find Way to Special Church Service," Indianapolis Star, May 12, 1990 printed in CN

"The role model for this carefully choreographed and rehearsed service, referred to by Rev. Kelm as a 'seeker service,' is Willow Creek Community Church in Barrington, Ill., near Chicago, an independent congregation formed 14 years ago...Rev. Kelm said he viewed a videotape of a service at the Chicago-area church before planning the first seeker service for Divine Savior, which is affiliated with the Milwaukee-based Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod."
Carol Elrod, "Pastor Hopes Seeks Will Find Way to Special Church Service," Indianapolis Star, May 12, 1990 Reprinted in CN


"Church growth theory suggests the need for seven fellowship groups for every 100 members."
Pastor Paul E. Kelm, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Winter, 1985, p. 4.

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"The peacock is an image of heretics and fanatical spirits. For on the order of the peacock they, too, show themselves and strut about in their gifts, which never are outstanding. But if they could see their feet, that is the foundation of their doctrine, they would be stricken with terror, lower their crests, and humble themselves. To be sure, they, too, suffer from jealousy, because they cannot bear honest and true teachers. They want to be the whole show and want to put up with no one next to them. And they are immeasurably envious, as peacocks are. Finally, they have a raucous and unpleasant voice, that is, their doctrine is bitter and sad for afflicted and godly minds; for it casts consciences down more than it lifts them up and strengthens them."
Martin Luther, What Luther Says, An Anthology, 3 vols., ed., Ewald Plass, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1959, II, p. 642.

"There is a false, ungodly, carnal zeal that does not come from God and is not produced by the Holy Spirit, but is rooted either in animosity against those who teach a different doctrine or in the selfish thought that a display zeal will bring the minister honor, at least in certain congregations, or in fanaticism. In the days of Christ, what zeal in the discharge of their office do we behold in the high priests, elders, scribes, and Pharisees who opposed Christ!"
C. F. W. Walther, The Proper Distinction between Law and Gospel, trans., W. H. T. Dau, St. Louis: Concordia Publishing House, 1928, p. 380.

Two Factors Militate Against Closing Down Clergy Adultery

Visiting the synod official - an allegory.

Two factors keep the clergy adultery situation from being addressed.

Number One - Public Relations
The organization does not like to admit its failures, so leaders are tempted to cover up. This is true of all denominations, but also true of schools, hospitals, counseling organizations, even political parties. The adulterery is confirmed in his sin and his lies, and the organization wins a willing defender, someone owned and operated by those covering for him. "Remember, you owe me!"

Number Two - Innocent Suffering
The innocent suffer most from these incidents: spouse, children, friends, clergy who have to follow the trust-breaker. One minister wrote about following an adulterous pastor who had an affair with the lay leader's wife. The lay leader could not bring himself to trust the new pastor. The suffering radiates far from the original act of betrayal.

I look around a see a vast array of pastors who looked the other way when church workers murdered their wives, when other church workers left their wives for a hot chick in the parish. Coverinig up is not a career-ending move - it is career enhancing, a chance to become a seminary president or even a sect president in the Little Sect on the Prairie. The same person who does nothing about Stolzenburg working with and identifying with an ELS mission will force a minister out for disagreeing with His Popeliness.

As Slick Brenner predicted, "There is a time of judgment coming for WELS."

Clergy Adultery Is Not a Victimless Crime

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Another Obama Mentor: Frank Marshall Davis, Commun...":

Dear Pastor Jackson,

I am in a hotel room tonight. Bad thoughts revolve in my mind. I am broken and dismayed. I read these posts on this blog and wonder why.

I recently had an employee walk into my office. She shared with me her affair with her WELS pastor. It was hard to take the news. I was disappointed but maybe for not the reason you think. I confronted my employee about the seriousness of the situation. She said I could do nothing as her pastor and she had agreed not to pursue a relationship. I asked her how her husband who is the chairman of the school would feel at the next council meeting knowing her (sic) wife slept with her pastor. Again, my friend said I could do nothing. A mistake and nothing more. I confronted the pastor. He too said it was between her and him. How could he go to the meetings with her husband there, I asked?

I work in a WELS ministry. I am broken. 20 years ago a trusted vicar and I thought a friend had an affair with my wife. He got her pregnant. I took my lumps and moved on. I am still married. The vicar now a pastor.

I don't always agree with Pastor Jackson and his views on this site. I also know that this site is viewed more often than it is admitted.

To my pastor, I hope you understand why I now haven't been to church for 8 weeks. The memories are hard again. Maybe you might understand a little more now why I expect more of my pastor than others. I am sorry if I pressed to (sic) hard on you or your associate.

To my employee who now left, go in peace. To the pastor who had an affair with my wife, I hope I can forget you once again with this memory renewed by a different pastor.

I sit in my hotel room tonight and wonder. I think of my failings. I think of my daughter and my wife. I think of ending it. But I will not. I will press on. I wonder if those pastors on my board, if they really knew of the pastoral pain caused on me would look different upon me if they really knew my story. They are kind and supportive but I also guard myself against them. I don't want to be hurt again. Maybe it is time for me to move on in my work. Maybe it is time for a new church although I know they have all the same faults.

So I guess I will go back...and listen again to the Word...but when he preaches on the 6th I will look at him...and try my best to make it through...if my pastor only knew.

This will be my last post on this blog. To all of you who seek to reach out with the word of God and save souls for Jesus, God be with you. For those of you who whine about members lack of support or help or criticism of you not getting your work done, well maybe it's time to look deeply into your members (sic) eyes. Maybe, just maybe, you have no idea of the pain they have because of no less, the church.

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A WELS Pastor has left a new comment on your post "Another Obama Mentor: Frank Marshall Davis, Commun...":

This note has got to be a fake....If this person was (sic - contrary to fact, at least in the writer's mind) involved in WELS ministry, he would know exactly who (sic) to take this to, and this pastor would no longer be in the ministry...This is a fake that you or one of your buddies put on here in order to lambast the WELS again! Sorry, Greg, but I simply don't believe your commenter!

[GJ - Proofreading indicates that both authors are WELS-trained.]

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GJ - I am posting this in the hopes it will convince synodical leaders that covering up for adulterous pastors is sinful, wrong, unethical, and damaging to far more people than anyone suspects.

I see that someone has already posted the allegation that I or one of my buddies made this up. The slander-machine is set on high volume today: slandering in the name of citing the 8th Commandment. No, I did not write this. No, my buddies did not write this. I do not know who wrote it, but I thought it sounded authentic. I have seen similar accounts of husbands damaged by adulterous clergy.

When I tried to raise this issue in Columbus, Wally Oelhaven accused me of "taking cheap shots" at the three divorced pastors (three out of six) in the area. I thought adultery and husband of one wife were topics addressed in the pastoral epistles. I must have been wrong. The cover-up artists, who had to deceive a lot of people, painted themselves as compassionate and evangelical. They were evan-jellyfish, apparently soft but really poisonous and dangerous.

Long ago an LCA district president pointed out how dangerous pastoral counseling could be. Vulnerable women can look for confirmation of their worth and flatter a minister at the same time. No other professional can knock on a door without an appointment and expect to be welcomed. That can be very useful or extremely dangerous. The pastoral epistles discuss these dangers. False doctrine and adulterous behavior go together. Adulterating the Word makes it easier to adulterate the marriage vows.

Covering up for clergy adultery has been especially damaging to the Christian Church. The laity know of many clergy who have had affairs, divorced, married their mistresses, and stayed in the ministry, sometimes after leaving briefly to sell frozen food or repair furnaces. Some adulterers get promoted immediately when caught, if they have the correct false doctrine. One Michigan District VP had his affair covered up by his buddy the District Pope. When the affair was uncovered, the VP became a WELS nursing home administrator. A member of the VP's congregation ceased his plans for becoming a pastor. He was disgusted by the affair, the coverup, and the promotion. Multiply that a few hundred times over and the results are not church growth.

Contrary to what A WELS Pastor said, it is usually hopeless to go to anyone in authority in WELS. That may change, but it will take a long time. The first loyalty is to seminary classmates, not to the Scriptures. Secondly, Holy Mother WELS must be protected. Thirdly, no one is allowed to disagree with the District Pope. Trying to get past that thicket of corruption, arrogance, and deception is a chore. The ELS is exactly the same. Bethany Seminary president spoke in his class against discussing these issues becase "it hurts the face of the church." Image first - families be damned. That can only come from the Little Sect on the Prairie, whose buildings were all funded by a man who divorced to marry the wife of his manager. She divorced, became a Lutheran, and went back to Rome when St. Marvin of Schwan died. Money can convert someone to the Lutheran cause, as she proved.

I offer as Exhibit A for the defense -

Floyd Luther Stolzenburg is still serving as a Lutheran pastor in Columbus, Ohio. His LCMS District President forced him to resign "for cause" on a Saturday and preached as Floyd's replacement on Sunday. Floyd followed his ex-wife to Columbus and settled into St. Paul's (faux-WELS at the time, now a member of WELS). Soon he got a wealthy member to fund an organization to make him a faux-pastor. Wally Oelhaven told me, more than once, "The plan was to move Floyd into the WELS ministry after five years." DP Robert Mueller and VP Paul Kuske set up the organization. After Floyd had caused enough trouble through LPR, and remarried, VP Kuske recommended him for a parish, Emmanuel, which had left the ALC. Another WELS pastor also recommended Floyd. Both WELS men wrote letters in favor of Floyd. His old LCMS DP did not. Note Ichabodians that Floyd never joined WELS, never went through colloquy, and swore he would never be WELS. Yet WELS lined up to flatter him into this clergy position. The initial contract was for one year, which Floyd neglected to tell Kuske and Mueller. Then the job was extended.

Roger Kovaciny helped raise money for Thoughts of Faith through Floyd's church, which had an embezzlement scandal. ELS Pastor Jay Webber had no problem with Kovo working through Floyd. ELS Pastor (now ELCA) John Shep had no problem with this lucrative arrangement. People challenged Shep about this, so his response was to slander me. Funny - he praised me to one supporter of Thoughts of Faith while attacking me when writing to another person. When the attack email was quoted to him by the supporter, he refused to answer. That is how to make the big bucks in the ELS.

Floyd had nothing but support from the entire Michigan ministerium and especially from the Columbus clergy. And yes, I went to all the authorities, whose response was to take action - against me. They did me a favor in their spite and vindictiveness. And now I can post so others can have a hearing.

Kevin Leman, a fine Christian writer, has this interesting take on adultery - it never turns out well. Clergy should stop romanticizing an utterly destructive sin.

On a positive note, there are some new WELS leaders who can make a difference if they have the support of faithful members. There are plenty of unrepentant laity who will always support false teachers among the clergy. The faithful pastors and leaders need support too.

Another Obama Mentor: Frank Marshall Davis, Communist Party Member

Prayer of St. Obama
Where there are poor-credit risks, let me sow ACORNs.

The public news cycle seems to be several months behind what is being reported on the Internet. In their latest issue, the National Enquirer has discovered Frank Marshall Davis as an Obama mentor.

Some information has to be linked because it is not suitable to print in a blog. I am linking some articles below for those who want to know more.

Obama mentioned Frank in his 1995 book (which was likely ghosted by terrorist Bill Ayres). Frank's last name is not given in the book, an odd way to pay tribute to a mentor.

Davis wrote a book called Sex Rebel where he described his bi-sexual adventures with many, including a 13 year-old girl named Anne.

Davis was a member of the Communist Party, famous for his writing and well known in Chicago radical social circles. Davis may be the reason why Obama began work in Chicago as a community organizer.

Ayres is the son of a wealthy social leader in Chicago. No one knows exactly when Ayres and Obama began working together, but it is now clear that Ayres got Obama the job (post Harvard Law) heading the radical Chicago Project.

Obama's white grandfather introduced 10 year-old Barry to Davis in Hawaii because he thought the Black journalist would help the boy adjust to his bi-racial identity crisis. Another theory holds that Davis was Barry's father. Anne is Obama's mother's middle name, the one she used since her parents stuck her with the first name of Stanley. They wanted a boy.

Accuracy in Media about Frank Marshall Davis.

Davis in Hawaii. This offers interesting details about the Democrat Party in Hawaii, the unions, and rewriting history.

Blog details about Davis and his books.

Some remaining mysteries about Obama as the election nears:

1. Why is his Certificate of Live Birth in Hawaii so controversial? An attorney is pressing a lawsuit against Obama, suggesting the Obama was born in Kenya (not elible to be president) or that he held dual citizenship (same problem).

2. Why is his proven history of drug abuse a non-story. His high school yearbook bio proclaimed it, and he admitted cocaine use in his 1995 book.

3. When and how did he connect with bomber Ayres and his lovely wife Bernadette, another domestic terrorist? Some think the primary connection was Obama's wife, Michelle. Others think the Davis connection was primary.

4. How did Obama start at no-name Occidental College, transfer to Columbia University, where nobody remembers him, and land at Harvard Law? His academic records are now hidden. He has a mellow speaking voice but no grasp of facts, lapsing more often than Biden.

5. How can a boy have a Muslim father, a Muslim step-father, attend a Muslim school, and claim he was never a Muslim?