Harmless Heretic Larry Olson Has Infected 75 with Staff Ministry

Frequently Asked Questions

1. WHAT IS "STAFF MINISTRY"?
Staff ministry is a form of public, representative ministry. An individual is given a call by a group of believers to carry out church work on their behalf.

2. WHAT DO STAFF MINISTERS DO?
The call itself defines the particular duties and responsibilities of a specific staff minister. Current position titles include the following: Minister of Music and Education, Minister of Family and Youth, Minister of Discipleship, Director of Christian Education, Family Minister, Director of Discipleship, Program Director, Minister of Music, Minister of Evangelism, Church Administrator, Minister of Administration, Deaconess, and Parish Nurse; Parish Assistant and Parish Associate are other potential position titles. In each case, the call would define and limit the specific responsibilities based on the needs of the calling body.

3. ARE STAFF MINISTERS PASTORS OR TEACHERS?
No. Some staff ministers, however, may initially have been trained for another form of ministry, such as teaching, and then subsequently been called into staff ministry.
In one sense, of course, any time a congregation or other calling body has more than one worker on the staff, it is a staff ministry. But we are using the phrase "staff minister" to refer to an individual who is not serving as a pastor or parochial school teacher, but instead has been called to work in association with the pastor(s), other called workers, and members in focused areas of parish ministry. While pastors are trained for the broadest scope of ministry and for theological leadership, and teachers are trained in Christian classroom education, staff ministers receive basic theological training and practical skills to equip them to serve in other specific areas of parish ministry.

4. WHAT KIND OF TRAINING IS AVAILABLE?
There are three elements in the program: general education in the liberal arts, a religion component parallel to what teaching candidates take, and professional courses designed to equip candidates with the competencies necessary to serve as staff ministers. The professional component includes both a core of required courses and a number of electives in specialized areas such as evangelism, youth work, family ministry, administration, stewardship, parish education, and the like. In addition, an internship or a series of practica is required.
The goal is to provide academic integrity, professional competence, and program flexibility in order to best serve the needs of our congregations and of our current and prospective staff ministers.

5. WHERE IS THE PROGRAM AVAILABLE?
The staff ministry program is located at Martin Luther College in New Ulm, a town of 13,750 people in south central Minnesota. In addition to classes offered during the regular semesters, courses are available through correspondence and video, in summer sessions, at extension locations, and through independent and directed study.

6. ARE OLDER STUDENTS ADMITTED?
Yes. While traditional undergraduate students are enrolled in a four or five-year degree program, with the option of also being certified in elementary education or in parish music, the length of the program for older students will vary depending on the previous study and experience of each candidate. Courses in the program are also open to current church workers -- pastors, teachers, and staff ministers -- who want to broaden their ministry skills or who wish to equip themselves for a possible change in ministry.

7. WHAT KIND OF CERTIFICATION IS GIVEN?
Graduates of the program receive certification in staff ministry, which indicates that the candidate has attained the entry-level competencies to serve as a staff minister. As in the case of pastors and teachers, certification is not for specific skill areas. Students may also choose to pursue an additional certification in elementary education or parish music.

8. IS THE PROGRAM OPEN TO BOTH MEN AND WOMEN?
Yes. There is no difference in training, just as there is no difference in the training of male and female students for the teaching ministry. Distinctions based on gender are determined by the congregations or calling bodies as they establish the responsibilities of their specific calls.

9. IS RESIDENCE HALL SPACE AVAILABLE?
Yes, for both single male and female students. There is no married student housing, but New Ulm has apartments and homes available for rent at reasonable costs.

10. WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR SERVICE?
There currently are about seventy-five staff ministry positions in the congregations of the Wisconsin Synod, as well as several dozen positions in non-parish settings. While we cannot guarantee that there will be positions for everyone who prepares for service, there does seem to be a growing desire on the part of congregations to add staff ministers.

The Staff Ministry Office at Martin Luther College provides information to the District Presidents of the WELS, who are responsible for preparing lists of candidates for calling bodies, to ensure that they are aware of who is available for service as staff ministers. In addition, we maintain an ongoing effort to communicate with congregations to help them to understand the potential for increased effectiveness in ministry that staff ministers could provide for them.

For further information, please call or write!


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Staff Ministry Program
Martin Luther College
1995 Luther Court
New Ulm, MN 56073
Telephone: 507.354.8221
E-Mail: OlsonLO@mlc-wels.edu
Fax: 507.233.9106
Dr. Lawrence Olson, Director [GJ - This alleged doctorate is a drive-by DMin from Fuller Seminary, four courses and a paper.]
Mrs. Valerie Fischer, Secretary

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THE BEST OF LARRY OH!



"Please stop exaggerating the amount of study that I have done at Fuller. After four years of study at Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, which involved sixty-two different courses and a year of vicarage, I graduated in 1983. From 1987 to 1989 I took four courses where I was in a classroom with a Fuller instructor. That is the extent of my Fuller coursework...In addition, I have taken two courses at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School and one at the University of Wisconsin--Madison. Because of Fuller's liberal (would you expect anything else?) policy on transfer of credit, and because of two independent studies I undertook, I could complete the degree by simply writing a dissertation."
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23. [Trinity in Deerfield lists WELS twice on its website. I wonder why. Was it that special when Larry Oh! went there, or have they trained dozens of WELS staff for hundreds of thousands of dollars?]

"To the best of my knowledge, only three WELS pastors have ever taken classes at Fuller Seminary: Reuel Schulz in the 1970s, and Robert Koester and I in the 1980s."
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23.

"You may reply that by 'Fuller-trained' you mean anyone who has attended a workshop presented by the Charles E. Fuller Institute of Evangelism and Church Growth, an agency which is independent of the Seminary. If that is the case, your attribution of 'Fuller-trained' is still simply not true. It would surprise me if even half of the two dozen people on your 'WELS/ELS Who's Who' list have attended a Fuller workshop; I personally know of only five who have."
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23. [GJ - Right. I am trying to think of five who did not go to Fuller.]

"Paul says that people can, in some way, 'adorn the doctrine' (KJV). Does that mean adding anything to the Gospel, thereby making the Means of Grace more 'effective'? Of course not. But it does mean that a Christian, a Christian slave in the original context, can discredit the Gospel--and thus erect a human barrier--through actions and words that contradict the profession of faith." [GJ - Reformed doctrine, learned from his mentors at Fuller Seminary.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23. Titus 2:9-10.

"To believe, teach, and confess that truth is not inconsistent with being able to recognize that one approach to ministry may be more effective than another. It is more effective to hold worship services at 10:30 am on Sunday than at midnight on Tuesday; this is true, even though it is the same Gospel that is preached at either time." [WELS CG people repeated this nonsense endlessly, but see the real story below.]

Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23.

"Faithfulness is the standard by which God judges those he calls into the public ministry. That faithfulness may or may not be 'effective' in terms of visible results; results are up to God, not us. But part of faithfulness ought to include striving to be as 'effective' as we can be in the methods that we use to take the Means of Grace to people." [GJ - Note the other ways Larry mocks the efficacy of the Word, below.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23.

"Make no mistake; I am under no illusions here. I fully expect to be publicly pilloried in print again. You will no doubt do so with some wit, with a good selection of quotations instantly imported into your world processor from your ready-to-go database, and with my own words twisted and used against me. So be it; I can live with that."
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23.

"While I would not encourage it, it would not surprise me to see my name in some future writing of yours. If it does appear there, please use my given [underlined] name, Lawrence."
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, D. Min. (Fuller), "A Response to Gregory L. Jackson, Ph.D.," Christian News, 3-28-94, p. 23.

"When Frederick Horn faced that situation, the Holy Spirit moved him to accept the call, and for the last few years he has served as the [lay] Minister of Discipleship for Grace Lutheran in downtown Milwaukee." (Pastor James Huebner Fuller alumnus)
Professor Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "Another Kind of Minister, There's a lot to do in a church, and a staff minister can do a lot of it," The Northwestern Lutheran, March, 1994, p. 9. Olson is director of staff ministry at MLC.

"The church growth movement has made inroads into nearly every denomination in America. Once considered only the turf of conservative evangelicals, you will now find church growth practioners in the United Methodist Church, in the Presbyterian Church in the USA, and among the Episcopalians. The LCMS has more pastors enrolled in the Doctor of Ministry program at Fuller Theological Seminary, the seedbed of the movement, than are enrolled in the graduate programs at their Fort Wayne and St. Louis seminaries combined, and most of them include church growth as part of their studies." [GJ - Stated with approval. Not mentioned - all the world mission, American mission, and Sausage Factory profs from Fuller.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Parish Consultant for the WELS Board of Parish Services and his district's Coordinator of Evangelism. p. 1.

"Donald C. McGavran died at home home in Altadena, California, on July 10, 1990. He was 92 years old. Dr. McGavran is widely recognized as the founder of the church growth movement, a movement which has sought to put the social sciences at the service of theology in order to foster the growth of the church. In August of 1989 I borrowed a bicycle and pedaled several miles uphill up from Pasadena to Altadena. I found Dr. McGavran in his front yard with a hose in hand, watering flowers."
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Professor, Martin Luther College (WELS), p. 1.

"McGavran leaned toward me and said, 'The fields are white unto harvest. But you can't harvest a field of what with a penknife--you need a sickle, you need a scythe. Harvest intelligently." Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Parish Consultant for the WELS Board of Parish Services and his district's Coordinator of Evangelism. p. 2.

"While only the Word is efficacious, the methods we use to minister to people with that Word may vary in their effectiveness." [GJ - Typical WELS CG heresy, attacking the efficacy of the Word.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Parish Consultant for the WELS Board of Parish Services and his district's Coordinator of Evangelism. p. 2.

"It is appropriate to make use of educational research to improve the functioning of our small group Bible studies." [GJ - God's Word needs help, doncha know.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Parish Consultant for the WELS Board of Parish Services and his district's Coordinator of Evangelism. p. 3.

"Contemporary social and behavioral sciences are a working out of the reason which God has given to humanity. Granted, the assumptions of some sociologists or anthropologists may be inconsistent with the Christian faith. That calls for discernment, but it does not invalidate the proper use of the social sciences by the church; it is, however, essential that they be used in a 'ministerial' manner." [GJ - Any Reformed heretic would agree.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Professor, Martin Luther College, (WELS), p. 3.

"We cannot add anything to the Word, but we may be able to remove the human barriers which might be in the way of the Word." [GJ - But, as Luther said, while attacking the Word, they never stop blabbering about their own words, which they imagine are effective.]
Prof. Lawrence O. Olson, (D. Min., Fuller), "See How It Grows: Perspectives on Growth and the Church," EVANGELISM, February, 1991, Parish Consultant for the WELS Board of Parish Services and his district's Coordinator of Evangelism. p. 3.

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GJ - Someone wondered, "How can you call him a heretic?" That is simple - all I have to do is quote him from my ready-to-go database.

St. Mark, De Pere (WELS) Shakes the Money Tree; Peter Pan, Too

Church and Chicanery Grantsmanship Protects the Throne.

St. Mark, De Pere, received a princely sum for life-coaching from the Siebert Foundation.

They also received $50,000 in 2007 from Thrivent.

Thrivent salespeople like big congregations - more potential customers. They can say, "Buy a Thrivent policy, because we just gave your congregation 50 big ones."

Remember Peter Pan, the Church and Change man? Maybe they call him Peter Pan because he is a pan-denominational chaplain. He got $50,000 from Thrivent, too. He is on the FIC editorial board, just like Gunga Don Patterson. FIC is loaded with Church and Change people. That is obvious, because the name of the magazine has lost Lutheran in the title, unlike the other Lutheran groups.

On this particular Thrivent list I found four WELS congregations receiving grants, two of them Church and Chicanery parishes. That seems statistically slanted to the Left.

Not News: WELS Spelling

Here is a WELS site featuring typical bad spelling in the Q and A section:

http://www.livingbold.net/qa.

I suppose the bad spelling is part of becoming missional, so the youth are not offended by correct spelling. I am speaking with sarcasticness, but as a freind.

Breaking News: Massive Funding of Liberals Provided by Various Foundations

Grantsmanship is taught at Church and Chicanery Conferences.

When Matt Doebler, at Church From Old Scratch, whined about needing $200,000 from Antioch for a worship leader, some of us began doing some research.

The gimlet eyes of one jaded scholar, a doctor of divinity, were opened wide into shock and dismay as the numbers added up.

Most people think, "Oh, a little from Schwan, a little from Thrivent." Not at all.

Oceans of money come from:

1. The Schwan Foundation,
   
2. Antioch Foundation, Wisconsin,
   
3. IHS and Salem Lutheran, both fueled by George Skestos,
   
4. Siebert Foundation, where Church and Chicanery's Ski is nestled,
   
5. Thrivent Lutheran Insurance.

Here are some highlights. Much more will be coming.

Redemption Ev Lutheran Church $19,000, Milwaukee. Siebert Foundation start-up funding for a youth center Ski was with this youth center. Jim Buske and Ski and Parlow were at Drive 08 together. There are lots of familiar names at this - http://www.lighthouseyouthcenter.com/index.html.
A Thrivent guy is president of the board, and Ski is on the board. Thus Lighthouse Stealth Youth Center has ties to two other funding sources at once. Ski is a Church and Chicanery board member. That puts Ski on three boards.

Living Word Ev Lutheran Church $20,000 Waukesha, WI. Start-up funding for a mission congregation Read the mission vision statement. John Borgwardt is the pastor. http://www.livingwordwaukesha.org/index.htm

Crossroads Christian Church $25,000 Chicago. Siebert Foundation start-up funding for mission congregation. Another Borgwardt - Mike - is the pastor. http://crossroadschicago.org/aboutus.html Crossroads is "missional," which is Fuller-speak for being Fuller-ish. Look for the Lutheran label with a microscope - there, I think I spotted it. WELS? Only by inference. The site features a bad version of We Still Believe.

St Mark Ev Lutheran Church--$66,000--De Pere WI. Siebert Foundation funding toward a peer counseling and life-coaching program. Did you read it here first? One staffmember was listed as a "life coach," but that was changed after the fact was published on Ichabod.

Mark Jeske's Time of Grace (unLutheran) Show - $250,000 from the Siebert Foundation.

All the Church and Chicanery people link to Time of Grace and quote His Eminence on such topics as eternal life.

More to come in the future. Our research department has to warm up Excel to add the figures for Schwan.

Otten is still reeling over Larry Burgdorf's salary - $440,000 plus $40,000 for benefits. Spending money is hard work.

Egbert (Eggs) Albrecht Died

Rev. Egbert Albrecht

Pastor Em. Egbert Albrecht died on Friday, Jan. 9, 2009, at the Barrett House in Markesan.

He was born to Theodore and Minna Eifealdt Albrecht on Jan. 25, 1921, in East Farmington, Wis.

He grew up in Lake City, Minn., where he attended St. John's Lutheran School. He graduated from Lake City High School and enrolled at Bethany Lutheran College in Mankato, Minn.

He completed his undergraduate work at Northwestern Lutheran College in Watertown, Wis., and attended the Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary in Thiensville, Wis.

After graduation, he taught and coached at Winnebago Lutheran Academy in Fond du Lac. He loved sports and played college football, basketball and baseball.

On June 29, 1948, he was united in marriage to Lois Pieper.

Egbert served for almost 60 years in the ministry at parishes in Abrams, Little Suamico, Marquette, Green Garden, Mich., Stoddard, Onalaska, and Manchester-Marquette-Markesan, where he labored for 27 of those 60 years. He also served as President of the Church of the Lutheran Confession.

Egbert was preceded in death by his wife, Lois; his parents; his son, Stephen; his sister, Dorothy Goede; and his brothers, Eugene and Curtis Albrecht.

He leaves behind, yet in this time of grace, his two daughters, Lisa and her husband Lynn Dumke of Markesan and Holly and her husband Larry Youngerberg of Waukon, Iowa; his two sons, Paul Albrecht and his wife, Valerie, of Ripon, and Jim Albrecht and his wife, Jolene, of Okabena, Minn.; his daughter-in-law, Cindy; his sister, Irmgard; 18 grandchildren; four great-grandchildren; many other relatives; and friends. He will be dearly missed and his memories cherished.


Services: Funeral services for the Rev. Egbert Albrecht will be held on Saturday, Jan. 17, 2009, at 11:30 a.m. at Faith Lutheran Church in rural Markesan. The Rev. Mark Bernthal will officiate.

Special thanks to the Barrett House for the love and care Egbert received during his time there.

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast." Eph. 2:8-9

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GJ - Albrecht and his congregations were so disgusted with the CLC (sic) that they left the sect. Now the group is chasing the Church Growth Movement, so one denomination is even farther behind the learning curve than WELS/ELS.

Leaving the Mess Behind

Rick Warren posed with his group at the Exponential Conference.

"It was him or us. By golly, we thought we were dead men."

Leave your mess behind

If we look at ourselves according to our sins, we will forever be the guy who spilled his drink. Instead, we need to leave our mess at the cross of Jesus.

Author: Donald W. Patterson

Recently I was on a plane sitting quietly and waiting for other passengers to board. Across the aisle and a few seats in front of me, a tall young man in military fatigues was trying to get into his seat. He was obviously coming home from Iraq. In one hand he had a backpack. In the other he had a soft drink in a cup, which he put precariously above the seat on the edge of the luggage storage shelf.

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GJ - One reader asked, "Was Patterson writing about returning from another Church Growth conference?" Ben Golish denies being at the Exponential Conference, but his co-pastor Stelljes, son of Patterson's Abiding Word Church, was in attendance with Gunga Don and others. Unfortunately, a complete list of attendees from WELS has not been published. Yet Rick Warren posed with his gang. And Ski posed all over the place at Andy Stanley's Drive Anabaptist Conference.

Note that unionist Patterson is still merrily writing for FIC (nee The Northwestern Lutheran). Other Church and Change gurus are also prominent authors in the same issue.


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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Leaving the Mess Behind":

How long will you wring your hands and regurgitate the same vomit week after week? Just maybe you are the one in error with your little band of Ichabodians. Misery sure does love company. Satan is crouching at your door, desiring you Mr. Ichabod, waiting to devour you, if he hasn't already...

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Leaving the Mess Behind":

It amazes me about the plank in your eye...blind hatred. What a paradox you are Ichabod. An enigma. Just rememeber while you point the finger at others, three are pointing back at you.

Here is a new acronym for you. Gospel according to Greg. GAG.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Leaving the Mess Behind":

Wow the attackers and the tone have gotten more biting. Rev. Jackson must be hitting pretty close to home for some.

These attackers have no problem with CG conferences, Keynote Stetzer, plagiarized sermons, free vicars, tons of free grant money to copy the reformed.

Step-up and show the errors in Rev. Jackson's posts. Pastor Ben admits to not going to the CG conference but others have bragged about going to CG conferences..

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GJ - I wonder why some people read almost 2,000 insightful, fact-filled posts and come away filled with blind hatred. Is this required reading at The Love Shack and The Sausage Factory?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Leaving the Mess Behind":

Just curious, why do you call the WELS Seminary at Mequon the "Sausage Factory" ? Is it because it is an all male school? For example, if you go to a party and no females show up, someone will say: "Looks like it's a sausage fest".

GJ - Nothing so lurid as that. Jay Webber told me the nickname for Mequon in the ELS is The Sausage Factory, because "they all come out the same." WELS Pastor and CG Guru James Huebner told me that they made fun of anyone with an interest in one topic or another, "which guaranteed that everyone came out the same." I said, "It also guarantees mediocrity."

Also, why do you call the HQ of the WELS the "Love Shack"? Are you inferring there is a lot of sexual hanky panky going on? I heard recently that another WELS teacher has been accused of sexual misconduct.

GJ - You have been reading too many news stories about WELS. I use the nickname The Love Shack because the Church Growth experts claim they convert people through love, and no group shows less love than the Church Growth Enthusiasts. They are filled with hate, spite, and envy. They cannot abide sound doctrine but use any tactic, no matter how loathsome, to drive out genuine Lutheran doctrine. Thanks to the spinelessness of the conservatives, they have almost succeeded.

Proof That Someone Reads This Blog with Discernment

Oops, wrong graphic. This one is for all the comments from Church and Chicanery zombies.

Lesli Frank has left a new comment on your post "The Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name: Stealth Con...":

I would personally like to thank you for your thorough investigation of these churches and pastors. Often times when my family and I go on vacation, other than sound emphasis on God's word, we don't really know what we are going to experience when we go to a Wels church. Because of your reporting, we now know that if we are in the areas of these churches you have highlighted here, we will most certainly attend them. We are always looking for the congregations that are looking to preach and live out the gospel message that Christ died to give us the freedom to follow Him. While most churches claim that and may very well do that, it seems that those that are willing to acknowledge that God himself gives no preference over traditional or contemporary, and He certainly doesn't state that either is wrong and that really appeals to us. May all of these churches and their pastors be blessed according to God's promise to those persecuted for His namesake. To God be all the glory.

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GJ - Once I told Doctrinal Pussycat Robert Mueller what a church member related to me. She said, "When my husband and I worship at WELS churches in Florida, the only way we can tell they are Lutheran is from the sign outside." That was 20 years ago.

Mueller glared at me. He claimed I was the "only one having problems with the Church Growth Movement." When I mentioned Pastor Stern's problems with CG, Mueller and Oelhafen immediately began making fun of Stern. I thought, "So this is how the Wisconsin leaders act?" And that was not the most disgusting moment by far.

I hear positive comments from a wide variety of people, included ordained pastors with some clout. No ELS, WELS, or LCMS pastor is allowed to be caught thinking. The officials remove the pastor by any means possible (since the officials reject the Means of Grace) and spew their venom on him and his family. I have seen it many times over. Next they justify their criminal behavior as saving their beloved Holy Mother Synod from harm. The results speak for themselves.

So I get a lot of positive remarks from all over, by phone, email, and even in person.

And there is this one:

"A friend alerted me to your slander. Please remove my name and image from your web site. I did not attend the Exponential conference. Get your facts straight.

Sincerely,
Ben Golisch"

I am checking it out with my source. I will make the correction if it is correct. The comment was anonymous and could have come from anyone, including Gunga Don. I do not think people have control over their published photos.

Pastor Ben fails to mention his co-pastor Stelljes being at Exponential. Stelljes is directly related to VP Gunga Don Patterson's Church and Change Network. Daddy Stelljes is a member at Holy Word, an ironic name for Patterson's nest of Enthusiasts.

For years Valleskey peddled the lie that he never went to Fuller. He even claimed that his study of Church Growth was forced upon him when he gave his Figs From Thistles paper (which WLQ subsequently published). He had been teaching CG at The Sausage Factory for some time already, and his class notes clearly showed that he was completely smitten by Church Growth. When CLC (sic) Pastor David Koenig got him to admit going to Fuller, Valleskey was furious that Koenig told me the truth in writing. Of course, Koenig was also mad as a hatter about my publication of the truth. Church Growth never advanced by being honest with anyone.

Yet Valleskey denied going to Fuller when I asked him after he gave his horrible paper at the Ohio conference.

Later, Valleskey even claimed I never spoke to him, a common WELS accusation aiimed at any public criticism of their published false doctrine. Of course, that was also a fabrication. I had to corner Valleskey, who tried to escape my probing questions. That claim about never speaking to Valleskey was passed on by Doctrinal Pussycat Nitz, whom Frosty Bivens called "the second most spineless DP in WELS."

A Midland circuit pastor asked, "Who is the most spineless?"

Frosty said, "Mueller."

Later, Buelow related his shock at Bivens openly criticizing an official. Normally the officials all treat each other as infallibly led by the Holy Spirit. One pastor even said, "I am not going to argue with the Circuit Pastor. The Holy Spirit appointed him." When ex-convict DP Ed Werner was choosing CPs who would wink at his criminal behavior, was that the work of the Holy Spirit?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Proof That Someone Reads This Blog with Discernmen...":

How ironic that the Doctrinal Pussycat is now filling a vacancy in Florida! He'll fit right in there.