The Fifteenth Sunday after
Trinity, 2012
Pastor Gregory L. Jackson
The Hymn #396 O For a Faith 4:18
The Confession
of Sins
The Absolution
The Introit p. 16
The Gloria Patri
The Kyrie p. 17
The Gloria in Excelsis
The Salutation and Collect p. 19
The Epistle and Gradual
The
Gospel
Glory be to
Thee, O Lord!
Praise be to Thee, O Christ!
The Nicene Creed p. 22
The Sermon
Hymn #657 Beautiful Savior 4:24
Loving Mammon Means
Hating God
The Communion
Hymn # 305:1-5 Soul, Adorn Thyself 4:23
The Preface p.
24
The Sanctus p. 26
The Lord's Prayer p. 27
The Words of Institution
The Agnus Dei p. 28
The Nunc Dimittis p. 29
The Benediction p. 31
The Hymn #23 Hallelujah! Let Praises
Ring 4:77
KJV Galatians 5:25
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be
desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another. 6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye
which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering
thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2
Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man
think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and
then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For every man shall bear his own
burden. 6 Let him that is taught in the
word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap
corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life
everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary
in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us
do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of
faith.
KJV Matthew 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for
either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the
one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. 25 Therefore I say
unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall
drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than
meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow
not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father
feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking
thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for
raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not,
neither do they spin: 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his
glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the
grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall
he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take
no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal
shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for
your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek
ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall
be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow
shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the
evil thereof.
FIFTEENTH SUNDAY
AFTER TRINITY
Lord God, heavenly Father,
we thank Thee for all Thy benefits: that Thou hast given us life and graciously
sustained us unto this day: We beseech Thee, take not Thy blessing from us;
preserve us from covetousness, that we may serve Thee only, love and abide in
Thee, and not defile ourselves by idolatrous love of mammon, but hope and trust
only in Thy grace, through Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with
Thee and the Holy Ghost, one true God, world without end. Amen.
Loving Mammon Means Hating God
KJV Matthew 6:24 No man
can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or
else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and
mammon.
Jesus’ Sermon on the Mounts
sets up a comparison that is impossible to ignore, and yet this comparison is
constantly ignored, especially in the visible church, which copies the unbelieving
world at its worst.
Mammon is not just money but
means having an overabundance of wealth and the desire to place one’s security
and happiness in that wealth. One person explained it not long ago as someone
flying to a destination and being unhappy about not going by private jet
instead. Commercial flights are so bothersome. Or having a billion dollars and
wishing for several billion dollars, since that is so much better and secures
all the happiness one might wish for.
Wealth itself is not condemned
in the Bible, although the socialists think so (as long as this lesson does not
apply to them). Lydia used her position as a wealthy merchant of the purple dye
to help the early church.
There is no question that
the unbelieving world worships mammon rather than God. This offends many
Christians today, but it is to be expected. Since the True God offends
unbelievers, the powers of this age keep believers from having a voice or
influence in public affairs. Every form of unbelief is treated with great respect
because unbelievers honor unbelievers – they all have the same god – mammon.
Luther himself was faithful
to this lesson. He was given a monastery to live in, so he turned it into a
motel for visitors. Everyone was welcome, including his enemies. They were
welcome at his table, too. Katy had to cope with all the work and even acquired
two farms so she could support this enterprise. Luther never took money for his
best-selling books and gave away gifts that came to him. Once he gave a gift of
gold to newly-weds, who needed it more than he did – Katy was not so sure
(Bainton – Here I Stand).
In contrast, the Lutheran
Church of today worships mammon. Congregations joke that their new pastor
should be independently wealthy - and someone who tithes. Great honor and
seriousness surround someone with a lot of money, even when people know it was
gained dishonestly through greed and deception. Instead of faith bringing all
forgiveness to an individual, money without faith absolves from any and all
sin.
To show that money does not
accomplish anything by itself, God has displayed for our edification – many
congregations die away with great wealth in land and cash, having no members
left - or in most cases, no Gospel left at all. The most notorious for promoting
false doctrine have monetary wealth in abundance, which attracts the greedy who
often rob the endowment for themselves.
But individual cases are
overlooked or forgotten. The Lutheran synods of today are great examples of
worshiping mammon and hating God. Oddly enough they are united by a common need
from long ago. Lutherans were suspicious of insurance companies and insurance
itself, so they created their own lodges (AAL and LB and Lutheran Mutual) to
provide insurance benefits to members only. Catholics and Masons have the same
type of lodge insurance.
The two biggest lodge or
fraternal companies merged (due to financial problems) and became Thrivent. Now
Thrivent rules ELCA, WELS, LCMS, and ELS with money.
When WELS was challenged for
participating in the Snowbird Leadership Conference with ELCA, the official
explanation was, “They were going to spend the money, so we did not want them
to get our share of it.” In other words, mammon, the delusion that money buys
happiness, made them work, worship, and study with ELCA. This was not the
virginal ELCA with no history, but Chilstrom’s ELCA that was working hard to
ordain and marry homosexuals, as he revealed in a recent article.
Participation by WELS and
LCMS meant an endorsement of all that ELCA stood for, but greed and deception
rule over the mammon synods. LCMS and WELS together bear false witness against
ELCA 24/7, participating in all the ELCA agenda items while pretending to
oppose them.
One cannot love God and
Thrivent together. A synod cannot love God and Thrivent equally, because that
synod will love one and hate the other.
What does it take to buy a
synod’s loyalty? LCMS Synd President Matt Harrison said that Missouri got $50
to 60 million a year from Thrivent. I am guessing twice as much (at least) for
ELCA and smaller amounts for the ELS and WELS.
What they do not count is
what they might have if they stopped relying on selling themselves out for
mammon. I have worked with a pan-Lutheran and “independent” Lutheran periodical
that were both critical of Thrivent loot – until they got their own grants.
Then they were silent.
This silence is the whole
problem today. The Christian Church is a mouth church, as Luther said, or a
mouth and ear faith, as he described in the healing of the deaf mute. When
people silence themselves for fear of offending mammon, they hate God and
distrust Him, because they think, “If mammon gets angry with me, I will be
denied what I need, but God will understand.” Thus they hate God and honor
mammon.
The Gospel is spoken and
heard. If no one will teach the Gospel, then no one will hear the Gospel. This
ends the creation and sustaining of faith, so the fruits of the Spirit
(alternately of the Gospel, of the Word) are no longer in production.
God converts with the Word,
not with love, not with money.
God has shown throughout
history that those churches and individuals with the least money and power have
been the most productive of Gospel blessings for others.
Loehe was confined to a
small parish because his supervisors did not want to give him the kind of
influence he deserved. What did he do, deprived of money and influence? He
started five foreign missions and founded two Lutheran seminaries in America.
He did not do this alone, but his influence and Christian leadership combined
to initiate all these things that benefited many people.
Passavant, in America, went
through a confessional crisis and became a Book of Concord Lutheran. He
collected money from all over and used it to help hospitals, nursing homes,
schools, and synods get their start. He was not Swedish but became the patron
saint of the Augustana Synod. He emphasized sound doctrine and applying the
Word of the Gospel. He was also more like a denomination by himself – he even
ran the original Lutheran magazine, which he used to fight the
anti-Confessional liberals (the Church Growthers of the day). But he bypassed
the mammon of a large congregation and income to help Lutherans who needed his
support, encouragement and fund-raising abilitities.
Likewise, the Lutheran
hospitals and orphanages and similar institutions came from a man whose parish
was so poor that he traveled around to raise money to keep it going. From the
travels he was inspired to imitate the Catholic nuns and Mennonites to
establish deaconess training, which influence Florence Nightingale and modern
nursing. That man was Fliedner - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodor_Fliedner
So thank Fliedner’s poverty
next time you meet a nurse in a hospital.
Luther is criticized for teaching faith, against works, but
these critics have not read Luther. Here is the connection:
5. We find very few, who do not sin against the Gospel. The
Lord passes a severe judgment and it is terrible to hear that he should say
this of us, and yet no one will confess, yea, no one will suffer it to be said
that we hate and despise God and that we are his enemies. There is no one, when
asked if he loves God and cleaves to him? would not reply, yes, I love God. But
see how the text closes, that we all hate and despise God, and love mammon and
cleave to it. But God suffers us to do this until his time; he watches the time
and some day he will strike into our midst with all violence, before we can
turn around. It is impossible for one, who loves gold and earthly possessions
and cleaves to them, not to hate God. For God here contrasts these two as
enemies to one another, and concludes, if you love and cleave to one of these
two, then you must hate and despise the other. Therefore, however nicely and
genteely one lives here upon earth and cleaves to riches, it cannot be
otherwise than that he must hate God; and on the other hand, whoever does not
cleave to gold and worldly goods, loves God. This is certainly true.
6. But who are they that love God, and cleave
not to gold and worldly possessions? Take a good look at the whole world, also
the Christians, and see if they despise gold and riches. It
requires an effort to hear the Gospel and to live according to it. God be
praised, we have the Gospel; that no one can deny, but what do we do with it?
We are concerned only about learning and knowing it, and nothing more; we think
it is enough to know it, and do not care whether we ever live according to it.
However, on the other hand, one is very anxious when he leaves lying in the
window or in the room a dollar or two, yea, even a dime, then he worries and
fears lest the money be stolen; but the same person can do without the Gospel
through a whole year. And such characters still wish to be considered as
Evangelical.
25 Therefore I say unto
you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink;
nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat,
and the body than raiment?
This is quite an
introduction to the Creation comparison Jesus is about to offer. That must have
been especially startling to people of that age, when clothing was quite
valuable by itself and food was a major consideration each day. But this leads
into a picture of Creation that no one can deny.
26 Behold the fowls of
the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet
your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which
of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye
thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil
not, neither do they spin: 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all
his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the
grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall
he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
No one can deny this. The
birds have almost no storage. Blue jays do a little of this, but it has been
shown that a lot of their work actually builds oak forests, since they bury far
more than they care to eat. They must be programmed by the Creator to do this.
Each bird wakes up in the
morning without a clue about where the next meal will come from. It is possible
to gather some birds together with feeders, which is fun to watch. But birds do
not favor the snack food of feeders. Humming birds like insects more than sugar
water and other birds keep their feeder food down to about 15% of what they
eat.
But these birds cheerfully
sing with nothing in the bank while we worry and fret with so much – and many
safeguards besides.
Likewise the wildflowers
bloom with great beauty even though they show this glory for a day and fade
away soon after.
30 Wherefore, if God so
clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the
oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
This style of arguing from
the lesser to the greater is part of Jewish teaching. The comparison is
impossible to miss. God takes care of everyone, especially those of the
household of faith. If we can see Him taking care of His Creation so well, how
can He not care for our bodily needs?
It is in this area alone
where so many lose faith, so Jesus addresses us all this way – o ye of little
faith. This is put into one scathing address – You Littlefaiths.
Compound words are fun, and
Greek can form them easily. We use them and forget they were compound words
until we look at them closely. My favorite from Pilgrim’s Progress is Hategood.
The name says it all.
Littlefaith is important
because it is a rebuke based upon the principal teaching of the Scriptures – to
have faith in God, whose Son died for our sins and rose from the dead.
If we sincerely believe that
God removes our sin by His declaration of the Gospel, which causes and
increases faith, then we should not doubt His ability and desire to care for
our bodily needs.
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we
eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For
after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth
that ye have need of all these things. 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God,
and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take
therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the
things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
The admonition to “seek
first the Kingdom and its righteousness” can be translated as “seek first the
Kingdom and the forgiveness of the Gospel”. I favor my own paraphrase because
the Word is clear but people take “righteousness” to be a creation of man
rather than one from God.
The righteousness from
outside of us, from Christ, is the forgiveness of sin, justification by faith.
I went over the basics of
UOJ with some Evangelical college students. I described how people believe they
are born forgiven and saved, having no sin. I asked how they would respond to
that. One said, “If you told me you believed that, I would start praying for
you.”
Another person walked in on
the discussion and said, “What? You don’t believe that?” I said, “No, but
Universalists do.” The students were just shocked that anyone could get such
ideas from the plain Word of God. But of course, being born forgiven and saved,
and Edward Preuss wrote, was a philosophy alien to Christianity but appealing
in an age turning from Pietism to Rationalism. When people are united by
works-salvation, they soon explain away the rest.
28. As if the Lord would say: You have never yet seen a bird
with a sickle, with which it harvested and gathered into barns; yea, the birds
do not labor like we; and still they are nourished. By this the Lord does not
however teach that we are to be idle; but he tries by this example to take all
anxiety from us. For a bird cannot do the work of a farmer as we do; yet, it is
not free from labor, but it does the work for which it was created, namely, it
bears its young, feeds them and sings to our Lord God a little song for the
privilege of doing this. Had God imposed more labor upon it, then it would have
done more. Early in the morning it rises, sits upon a twig and sings a song it
has learned, while it knows not where to obtain its food, and yet it is not worried
as to where to get its breakfast. Later, when it is hungry, it flies away and
seeks a grain of corn, where God stored one away for it, of which it never
thought while singing, when it had cause enough to be anxious about its food.
Ay, shame on you now, that the little birds are more pious and believing than
you; they are happy and sing with joy and know not whether they have anything
to eat.
29.
This parable is constantly taught to our great and burning shame, that we
cannot do as much as the birds. A Christian should be ashamed before a little
bird that knows an art it never acquired from a teacher. When in the spring of
the year, while the birds sing the most beautifully, you say to one:
How
canst thou sing so joyfully, thou hast not yet any grain in thy barn! It would
thus mock you. It is a powerful example and should truly give offense to us and
stir us to trust God more than we do. Therefore he concludes with a penetrating
passage, and asks: “Are not ye of much more value than they?”
30. Is
it not a great shame that the Lord makes and presents to us the birds as our
teachers, that we should first learn from them? Shame on thee, thou loathsome,
infamous unbelief! The birds do what they are required to do; but we not. In
Genesis 1:28 we have a command that we are to be lords over all God’s
creatures; and the birds are here our lords in teaching us wisdom. Away with
godless unbelief! God makes us to be fools and places the birds before us, to
be our teachers and rule us, in that they only point out how we serve mammon
and forsake the true and faithful God. Now follows the other example of the
flowers in the field, by which the Lord encourages us not to worry about our
raiment; and it reads thus: “And which of you by being anxious can add one
cubit unto the measure of his life? And why are ye anxious concerning raiment?
Consider
the lilies of the field, how they grow: they toil not, neither do they spin:
yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one
of these. But if God doth so clothe the grass of the field, which to-day is,
and to-morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of
little faith?”
31. As
if to say, your life is not yours, nor is your body, you cannot make it one
cubit longer or shorter; neither be anxious as to how you are to clothe
yourself. Behold the flowers of the field how they are adorned and clothed,
neither do they anything to that end; they neither spin nor work, yet they are
beautifully clothed.
6 COMMENTS:
There seems to exist a double standard. A public blog with pastors outside the WELS is fellowship, but a public conference on ministry with pastors outside the WELS is not? Questionable fellowship pratices (to put it generously) by WELS pastors have gone on with ELCA clergy (female pastors among them) in a very public way in 'Change or Die' Conferences, and when I raised concerns about these practices locally in my church, I was immediately judged by some WELS pastors as being judgemental of those 'Change or Die' WELS pastors. "This was not fellowship", they told me. IL is singled out for condemnation by leaders in the synod, while no public condemnations were made toward such events as 'Change or Die'. To be clear, WELS pastors were discussing matters of ministry with ELCA pastors in a public forum, in what many would 'perceive' as a show of fellowship and unity, and synod leadership is publicly mute on the issue. As I said, this seems like a double standard to me, and I can't fathom how it can be justified with those who practice it.
Furthermore, discipline in the name of this novel form of "fellowship" is only, ever, applied to those perceived as too "confessional" or conservative. One is free to pursue as many projects as one desires with more liberal or emergent Christians. It is, furthermore, hard to read this as anything other than part of a growing trend. What is the synodical embrace of NIV2011, after all, if not a re-alignment of the WELS away from those who treat the words of the Bible as the inspired Word of God (ELS, LCMS, southern Baptists, conservative evangelicals--all of whom quite easily rejected the NIV2011 as a substandard paraphrase, while we collectively wrung our hands and convinced ourselves we could swallow it) and towards those who do not?
Why all the concern over "blog fellowship" and none over "translation fellowship"? I am much more scandalized and ashamed by the fact that so many WELS leaders are so enthusiastic for a Bible that has been universally rejected by our confessional Lutheran brethren and cousins than I am about any level of blogging activity.
Blog fellowship is not Church. Synod is not even church. Synod is administration (and not that good of administration at that.) Taken to the extreme one could then express dismay at RSS feed fellowship if some article rolls by from a non fellowship source. Where does that nonsense stop. I am willing to entertain any Southeastern Wisconsin synod official over a cup of coffee and a Skillet at any greek family restaurant to discuss a sound rationale for how Blog fellowship should be enforced yet Time of Grace can do whatever the heck they want with anyone they want.
Tim Niedfeldt
PS: As a software developer, if I design a Mobile app with a product feed from CPH would that be Web Service fellowship? Would I be able to develop Open Source Lutheran software? ;)
And we certainly won't consider it to be any form of fellowship. Just a platform to discuss crazy stuff like the Lutheran doctrine confessed in the Book of Concord.
It is unfortunate that more WELS (and other sympathetic) pastors and laity don't participate in the conversation. My two favorite Lutheran blogs are IL and the BJS at steadfastlutherans.com. On BJS, run by confessional LCMS pastors, there exists robust debate and discussion of issues, as well as apologetics, sermons, and other confessional content. However, getting WELS folks to participate here seems to be like pulling teeth. I can't explain this, except to presume that the concepts of "WELS for WELS only", and "Our Beloved Synod" extend into the blogosphere. The Cult of WELS will not participate in things antithetical to the Cult.
The "blog fellowship" idea seems to be a particular tactic of those within WELS who don't want there to be any discussion or deviation from the WELS line. I do not believe this to be a new concept, but "blog fellowship" is a new way of slinging the arrow of "divisiveness". WELS is OK with debate but only at approved conferences, conventions, and symposia under the control of the bureaucracy. I believe that the academicians at the Seminary are the unofficially approved personnel to settle debates and once the debate is settled, none shall dissent; as we saw with the NIV2011, that includes the Synod President. Recall that the Seminary actually held a Symposium directed specifically at their "perceptions" of Intrepid Lutherans, although it was thinly disguised as a general talks on concepts of blog fellowship. Anything that deviates from the WELS approved methodology and debate processes is accused of being "divisive" and "not putting the best construction on everything", the dual hammers of 1 Corinthians 12 and the 8th Commandment. Dissent and disagreement, no matter how well presented, are not tolerated.
I don't know if there's a fix for this, as the problem is not with the blog, but the concept of dissent. It is likely an obstacle that simply needs to be powered through, confessional Lutherans must simply hold fast, not be intimidated, and continue the discussions. I am thankful for the information on IL (even Mr. Lindee's long articles!) and encourage everyone from laity to Synod President and even the eggheads at the Seminary to join the discussion, even if one doesn't agree.
Spenglergeist!
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Classic Ichabod -
Thursday, April 18, 2013
Ten Talents For Christ / Change Or Die Conference, 2013.
Don't Fail To Miss It
Ichabod effect? I think so.
Whachall afraid of, Shrinkers?
Ten Talents For Christ / Change Or Die Conference:
April 18th, 2013 : Change or Die IV
Rumble at The Harley-Davidson Museum ®
400 W. Canal St. Milwaukee, WI
1:00 to 8:00 p.m.
Tickets are free, but you must register here in advance
Email any questions to Deb at: deb@siebertfoundation.org
Click on the links for our Inspirational Speakers and Agenda
'via Blog this'
The previous story has lots of detail about this circus and the clowns therein:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/02/new-change-or-die-gathering-for-2012.html
Classic Ichabod:
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GJ - Hephatha, Milwaukee is ELCA. Here is one link from their ELCA partner.
Here is an ELCA news story mentioning Hephatha.
Randy Hunter is well known in WELS for the Latte Church - with the woman pastor "administering the Means of Grace."
Ken Fisher is the WELS expert on getting grant money, not that Jeske is slack on using Other People's Money.
LINC seems to be a front for ABCD, whatever that is or does.
Shepherd of the Hills is a Missouri Synod cell group congregation.
Faith, Milwaukee is another ELCA parish:
"Richard Suero student at Lutheran School of Theology in Chicago, and member of our Mission partner congregation, Faith/Santa Fe Lutheran Church in Milwaukee (The pastor at Faith/Santa Fe is a “son of Augustana,*” Richard Peterson) the Grow-Hanson family ELCA missionaries in Senegal."
*Augustana is a Reconciled in Christ congregation.
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Febreeze has left a new comment on your post "New Change or Die! Gathering for 2012":
I wonder if any of these are growing liturgical churches.
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GJ - I remember when WELS had a gathering of mission congregations. One pastor was truly confessional and put up a cartoon about someone saying on a couch, "I can't stop going to Church Growth conferences." He got a severe dressing down soon after. His congregation was growing from LCMS defections. He said to me, "I hope my members all die before they find out how WELS is lying to them."
I am guessing the latest Jeske extravaganza is Thrivent-funded. It has that aroma: WELS, LCMS, ELCA.
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David Becker has left a new comment on your post "New Change or Die! Gathering for 2012":
When I first saw this, I thought it was a parody or something that was made up, but I checked the link and it is indeed an actual event. Intrepid Lutherans reported it too.
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GJ - David, you laugh out loud when you read Ichabod? All I need to do is report the WELS and Missouri news for LOLs and ROTFLs. They denounce ELCA for abortion and homosexual pastors while working with ELCA congregations. And I am the bad guy. LOL.
PS - This conference is connected with Ten Talents for Christ. Intrepid research and spelling:
The address of "Ten Talents for Christ" listed on their website is:
2323 N. Mayfair Rd., Suite 104
Coincidentally, that's right down the road from the synod office, and it's in the very same building as WELS Kingdom Workers:
2323 N. Mayfair Rd., Suite 400.
The Registered Agent with the State of Wisconsin of Ten Talents for Christ Inc is one -
Danae S Oldenberg, who it appears is an agent for Thrivent and who's (sic) office appears to be 2323 N Mayfair Road Suite 104.
Ten Talents for Christ Inc has not filed paper work with the state of Wisconsin to be recognized as a Charitable 501(c)3 Organization yet, but is a NonStock, Non-Profit Corporation.
Was not able to find out Board of Directors.
The above is all from Public Records available in Wisconsin.
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GJ - I tolja it smelled like Thrivent. Big grant for the schwaermerpalooza, I promise.
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