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Tuesday, March 12, 2013
Hunnius Has an Excellent Summary of the Pre-Existence of UOJ - "Nope!"
"There are a great many sermons on the justification of men before God in our published writings -- in the Augsburg Confession, the Apology, the Smalcald Articles, in both Catechisms of Luther, in the Epitome and the Formula of Concord -- indeed, in the entire controversy with the papists that has gone on now for more than 70 years. But regarding this general justification by which all men were supposedly justified at some time, received into the embrace of divine grace, adopted, with sin having been forgiven to all men equally -- truly, properly and by the deed itself -- of this, I say, in all of these published writings and in all of Holy Scripture, there is nothing but eternal silence." -- Aegidius Hunnius (c. 1594)
Cited by Christian Schulz
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David Boisclair has left a new comment on your post "Hunnius Has an Excellent Summary of the Pre-Existe...":
Hunnius here is not speaking of what we believe, teach, and confess in the Lutheran synods that formerly constituted the Synodical Conference. He is speaking here about Huberianism, which is something totally different. Our doctrine is the same as that of Aegidius Hunnius. Notice that Hunnius is speaking here of the receipt and adoption by divine grace. For lack of a better label this is the heresy of Universal Subjective Justification.
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David Boisclair has left a new comment on your post "Hunnius Has an Excellent Summary of the Pre-Existe...":
Correction: "Notice that Hunnius is speaking here of the receipt of and adoption by divine grace." Please excuse the omission of the preposition "of" after the posted word "receipt."
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LPC has left a new comment on your post "Hunnius Has an Excellent Summary of the Pre-Existe...":
Yes and he is speaking also of sin having been forgiven to all men equally.
Like I said Rev. Boisclair, you focus too much on where you think you differ and there you comfort yourself, you should be bothered where your (UOJ) is similar to Huber.
That bit of having all sins forgiven to all men equally is something your UOJ shares with Huber.
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