Showing posts with label St. Peter Freedom. Show all posts
Showing posts with label St. Peter Freedom. Show all posts

Wednesday, September 7, 2016

Write a Letter - They Say in WELS - The First Step in Being Excommunicated.
Here Is Techlin's Letter about St. Peter in Appleton, 2009.
Links for the Rest at the Bottom of Each Installment


"There is only one commandment in WELS,
and you have broken it. Now begone!"

A WELS lady marveled that two pastors could
be the cause of so much trouble in one little synod.
Thank Mark Schroeder and the other clergy, like Patterson and Zank,
 for bailing the Booze Brothers out so many times.







Click here for pages 4-5.

Wednesday, May 4, 2016

Behavior of Ski and Glende Toward Their Victims -
DP Englebrecht and SP Mark Schroeder Facilitate Bullying.
From 2014, Attorney Rick Techlin's Blog

Many previous posts about Ski and Glende are linked here.


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Recently, two WELS Pastors, Tim Glende and James Skorzewski, and two of their staff members filed four almost identical lawsuits against a WELS layman, Jonathan Donnan, a former member of their congregation.  Specifically, they asked a secular court to issue four restraining orders, ordering Jonathan Donnan to stop “harassing” them.
In the courthouse lobby before the first case was heard, a local attorney who handles a lot of cases in that court (and who had absolutely no connection to this case) looked at the court’s calender, and said, “When you see four restraining order petitions against one person, then usually that person did something extremely bad, or it’s a bunch of bullies ganging up on someone.”  Jonathan’s wife, Mara, who was sitting nearby, piped up and said, “It’s the second one.  It’s a bunch of bullies ganging up on someone.”

Who appointed Ski the circuit sexpert?

History
According to Jonathan Donnan’s wife, Mara, Pastor Skorzewski said numerous sexually inappropriate things to her over the course of months, and on at least one occasion, Pastor Glende also joined in with this disgusting behavior.  (At the time, Mara was a member of The CORE, a WELS church, and also Pastor Skorzewski’s executive assistant).
After a long ordeal involving the Circuit Pastor, District President, and even the Synod President, Pastor Skorzewski finally resigned.  However, Skorzewski almost immediately requested CRM status.  (CRM means that a man is deemed to be blameless, above reproach, and qualified to receive a call as a pastor).
Jonathan did not think the man who behaved so inappropriately toward his wife should become a pastor again, and he thought the WELS pastors from the district who would be asked to comment on Skorzewski’s CRM status should have more information.  So he wrote a letter to the pastors of the Northern Wisconsin District giving them information about Pastors Skorzewski’s and Glende’s behavior toward his wife.  This letter was signed by Jonathan, his wife Mara, and also concerned WELS pastors Lidtke and Suhr.
Having received comments regarding Skorzewski’s potential CRM status from other WELS pastors, District President Engelbrecht then also sought comments specifically from the membership of St. Peter & The CORE, which had been Skorzewski’s congregation before he resigned.  To this end, an informational meeting was scheduled at The CORE for August 13, 2013.
At the beginning of the meeting, Pastor Glende said the purpose of the meeting was so that the congregation could seek direction and make decisions about the ministry “specifically on this campus,” The CORE.  During this meeting, District President Engelbrecht summarized Skorzewski’s behavior and the Donnan’s reaction and the steps the District took to rehabilitate Skorzewski, he solicited questions, and then he gave the members of St. Peter & The CORE thirty days to submit comments to the district leadership regarding Skorzewski’s proposed CRM status.  During this meeting, District President Engelbrecht also said that he was an ardent supporter of Skorzewski and his ministry.
Jonathan Donnan showed up at this meeting because he wanted to protect his wife’s reputation and honor.  After DP Engelbrecht’s summary, Jonathan believed that DP Engelbrecht had portrayed Pastor Skorzewski’s behavior in the best possible light, while portraying his wife’s reaction in the worst possible light.  Therefore, Jonathan sat through much of the Q&A section with his hand raised waiting to be called upon.  Finally, Pastor Glende said that he would allow Jonathan to speak; however, he first informed the congregation that Jonathan was not invited to the meeting, had no legal right to be there, and that if Jonathan started attacking people, then he would be asked to leave.
Jonathan said that was a rude way to call upon him.  The entire exchange then quickly devolved into whether Jonathan had a right to be there because he was not a member of St. Peter & The CORE.  Jonathan believed that as a Christian husband he had a duty to try to defend his wife, and that St. Peter & The CORE’s constitution and bylaws could not overrule his moral obligations.  After a short period of time, Jonathan left the meeting, but announced that he was there to defend his wife, and would be outside to speak with anyone who wanted to hear the whole truth.
While Jonathan was outside, he could hear laughter and applause inside as the meeting continued without him.  While Jonathan was outside, he also received a lecture about forgiveness and about how he did not understand forgiveness.
A few days later, Pastors Glende and Skorzewski and two church staff members filed four almost identical lawsuits against Jonathan Donnan.  They asked the Outagamie County Family Court to issue four restraining orders telling Jonathan to not write any more letters to WELS pastors about Glende or Skorzewski, to not show up at any future meetings at St. Peter & The CORE where they would be discussing personnel issues, and to have no further contact with St. Peter & The CORE or its staff.
Pastor Glende’s case was heard first.  Pastor Glende spent about two hours presenting his case.  He himself testified extensively along with two laymen from his church.

Best buddies posed with porn singer Katy Perry.
Ichabod will not post what Ski showed his staffer.
Engelbrecht knew all about it, but backed Ski and Glende anyway.

Legal Issues
In order for a behavior to be harassment, it has to serve no legitimate purpose.  Does writing a letter to the men (WELS pastors) who would help decide Skorzewski’s CRM status serve no legitimate purpose?  And does showing up at a congregational meeting where they are discussing how your wife was treated, and where the District President is seeking comments and advice about whether that pastor should get CRM status, does that serve no legitimate purpose?
Is that inappropriate behavior?  Or could those be the behaviors of a man trying to protect and defend his wife?
The allegations Mara made against Skorzewski were not false.  A false allegation would serve no legitimate purpose, but a truthful allegation does.  If certain WELS pastors and a certain WELS congregation are going to be specifically asked to provide comments about whether Skorzewski should serve as a pastor again, is it legitimate that they should also hear from the victim or her representative?


The August 30 Court Hearing
Under oath, Pastor Glende testified that Jonathan’s behavior served no legitimate purpose because it hindered the ministry of St. Peter & The CORE, and it was just an attack.  (Court transcript, page 40).  According to Pastor Glende, Jonathan’s behavior served no legitimate purpose because the decision about whether Skorzewski would serve as a pastor was made back in January and April.  Pastor Glende stated this numerous times throughout his testimony.  Below is just one example.
Under oath, Pastor Glende said that Jonathan’s “behavior was disruptive in our congregation in a meeting.  It is — it attacks me personally.”  Attorney Maurer then asked Glende: “What’s wrong with that, pastor?  What’s wrong with a person attacking on how you handled the situation of allegations of sexual harassment by one of your pastors?  What’s wrong with that?”  To which Pastor Glende responded: “A group of my peers have said it’s been dealt with, addressed, move on.”  (Court transcript, page 39).
In summarizing all of the evidence presented by Pastor Glende, Pastor Glende’s attorney said:
There are statements that have been provided as evidence that … show that Mr. Donnan is not going to let this issue die. He believes his purpose is to see this through. The issue has absolutely been resolved, and for some reason Mr. Donnan refuses to come to grips with that. So his conduct in sending the letters, continuing to contact people, showing up at the church and refusing to leave, clearly, in my opinion, falls within, engages in a course of conduct that has no legitimate purpose…
— Court Transcript, page 75.
Was the issue of Skorzewski’s CRM status absolutely resolved?  No.  This court hearing took place during the 30 day comment period in which members of St. Peter & The CORE were being asked to advise the District about Skorzewski’s CRM status.  And only a few months later, the District granted Skorzewski CRM status, he immediately received a call, and has already been installed as a WELS pastor in Texas.
Attorney Maurer tried to get Pastor Glende to admit that the August 13 meeting was about potentially reinstating Skorzewski to the pastoral office.  Attorney Maurer questioning Pastor Glende:


Q: Okay, you testified earlier that the issue in the past had been resolved back in January, correct?


A: There was an initial decision reached on it in January.


Q: He resigned in April?


A: Correct.


Q: And you’re stating that the August 13, 2013 meeting had nothing to do with that whatsoever, with his disposition going forward with the church, correct?


A: Pastor Ski resigned and is not currently a pastor. He doesn’t have status to be a pastor. The church has nothing to do with him going forward as a pastor.


Q: That’s not entirely true, is it? Isn’t it a fact that part of the purpose of this meeting was some specific members of the congregation wanted to reinstate the pastor to his previous position, correct?


A: That’s not true.


Q: If I have people come in and testify that there were people at that meeting that were petitioning the church to reinstate the pastor, that’s not the truth, they’re lying?


A: Were there people there that their opinion was that the pastor should be reinstated? Yes.


Q: Were there people at the meeting that said that?


A: There could have been people in the meeting that said that. The purpose of the meeting; however, was not to reinstate him.


Q: The purpose of the meeting was as it related to Jonathan’s wife, correct?


A: To share information regarding the case.


Q: So why would you think it’s inappropriate for the husband of the alleged victim to be present at the meeting to hear this?


A: Mr. Donnan has heard all that information before, and from my knowledge, it was a meeting for the members of our congregation, which he is not one of.


Q: Why didn’t you simply tell him to leave in the beginning? Instead you gave him the opportunity to speak.


A: I didn’t see him there at the beginning, I was up in the front. I had not had a chance to do anything about it and I didn’t want to cause a scene to ask him to leave. For two hours of the meeting Jonathan sat there. From my position he looked agitated and upset when different things were said, which, as I have always said, Jonathan is entitled to his opinion in regards to this case.


Q: Wouldn’t you be upset if you believed your wife was the victim of sexual harassment by a pastor and they were discussing that at a meeting? Do you think that’s unreasonable?


A: I guess I don’t know how to answer that question.
— Court Transcript, pages 35-37.
Attorney Maurer further questioning Pastor Glende:


Q: Do you believe there was any merit to the allegations against the pastor?


A: Do I believe it was sexual harassment?


Q: Do you believe there was any merit to any of the allegations, factual allegations, alleged against the pastor?


A: The pastor resigned.


Q: That’s not an answer to my question. Do you believe there was any factual basis for the allegations of harassment made by Jonathan’s wife towards the pastor?


A: We have said, declared publicly, that lapses in judgment happened.


Q: I’m just — yes or no, you personally?


ATTORNEY GILL: Objection to the relevance, your Honor.


ATTORNEY MAURER: It’s part of a harassment injunction, conduct that does not serve a legitimate purpose. Making up allegations of harassment just to attack these people, then that doesn’t serve a legitimate purpose.


ATTORNEY GILL: Your Honor, the continued behavior has no legitimate purpose.


THE COURT: The objection is overruled, he can answer.


WITNESS [Pastor Glende]: Can you repeat the question?


Q: I’m asking you if you personally believe there was any merit to the factual allegations of harassment raised by Jonathan’s wife against the pastor?


A: Are you asking me if there were –


Q: Just yes or no.


A: You’re asking me a yes or no to — I can’t agree with -­-


Q: So you don’t believe there was any merit to the factual allegations of harassment?


ATTORNEY GILL: I’m going to object. There were eight or nine allegations, your Honor.


ATTORNEY MAURER: I’m asking about any of them.


ATTORNEY GILL: What specific allegations are we talking about, your Honor?


THE COURT: Overruled, he can answer.


[Attorney Maurer questioning Pastor Glende]:


Q: To any of them in general. Yes?


A: Sure, yes.


Q: Okay, so would you personally condone that type of conduct by one of your pastors?


A: No.


Q: Okay, so you believe that there were indiscretions by the pastor directly towards Jonathan’s wife that occurred by the pastor, correct?


A: Yes, which were addressed. And then once he resigned, it was over because he is no longer a pastor. That happened in the middle of April.


Q: Okay, but again, the August 13 meeting was to address possibly the allegations that had happened in the past?


A: It was to share the summary of everything that had gone on from the end of October, November to that point.


Q: What precipitated that meeting?


A: Because of the letter that Jonathan and Mara sent out. Our district president said it was appropriate, at this time, to set it out. Until that point, we had not shared publicly with anyone in our congregation that this involved Jonathan or Mara.


Q: Your superiors told you, let’s have a meeting with the congregation on this to let everyone know what happened, and it’s your position you didn’t want him and his wife to be there?


A: He wasn’t a member, he was an uninvited guest.


Q: Okay.


A: Wanted or not wanted, I wouldn’t have thought of inviting him, he wasn’t a member.
— Court Transcript, pages 40-43.
Also at issue during the hearing was whether the August 13 meeting at The CORE was about how Pastor Skorzewski treated Jonathan’s wife, and Pastor Glende admitted that was true.
After Pastor Glende finished presenting all his evidence, and before the defense called a single witness, the court ruled on the case.  The standard the court used was this:  It put the best construction on everything Pastor Glende and his witnesses said, it considered Pastor Glende’s case in the kindest possible light, and gave Pastor Glende the benefit of the doubt on everything.  Nonetheless, the court ruled that Pastor Glende’s case had no merit, and dismissed his case.
Pastor Glende’s case was dismissed even before the defense called a single witness or presented any evidence.  Glende had nothing.


Aftermath
Immediately after the court dismissed Pastor Glende’s case, Attorney Maurer suggested that Skorzewski and the two church staffers should voluntarily dismiss their own virtually identical cases.  (Because Pastor Glende’s case took so long, the other three cases were rescheduled to a later date).  However, Skorzewski and the two church staffers refused to dismiss their cases, and instead attempted to negotiate a settlement out of court.
However, Jonathan refused to give up any of his legal rights in return for them agreeing to dismiss their cases.  In response, Skorzewski and the two staffers waited until the very last hour to dismiss their cases, thereby forcing the Donnans to endure the maximum amount of stress, and to pay the maximum amount in legal (attorney) fees.
Soon after, the Northern Wisconsin District denied Skorzewski CRM status, but made no announcement.  In congregational meetings at both St. Peter & The CORE, Skorzewski then advised the congregation that they should move on without him.  (“Around the Council Table,” November 2013 church newsletter).  The November 2013 church newsletter also had a special section entitled: “MOVING FORWARD AT THE CORE” which stated:
The announcement has been made that Ski will not be returning to that position [pastor at The CORE]. Although he applied for it, his reinstatement to the pastoral office was not granted at this point. In a special meeting at The CORE, Ski expressed his appreciation for the opportunity to serve in our midst, but encouraged all in attendance to move forward. That is the intent of our leadership on both campuses. We will continue to pray for Ski, his family, and his reinstatement.
Shortly after that, Skorzewski applied for CRM status a second time.  This time, the Northern Wisconsin District granted Skorzewski CRM status (under the condition that he not be a pastor in the Northern Wisconsin District), and almost immediately Skorzewski received a call to serve as a WELS pastor in Texas.  St. Peter & The CORE then announced in their church newsletter that they were holding a farewell party for Pastor Skorzewski to wish him God’s blessings as he prepared to leave for his new call.
So a WELS pastor resigned, for cause, because of sin, but before he left for his new call at another congregation, his former congregation threw him a farewell party.
On Sunday, April 27, 2014, Skorzewski was installed as pastor at Christ the Rock (a WELS) church in Texas, and Pastor Glende preached at Skorzewski’s installation service.  (Vimeo 93511608).  At 28:20 in the sermon, Pastor Glende said that Skorzewski was his best friend, and that he wished he could work with Skorzewski forever, but God had a different plan: to bring him to Texas.  At about 28 minutes into the sermon, Pastor Glende said, “I’m sure down the road or in the course of time, you’ll hear a great deal about what it is that God used to bring him here.  It’s an amazing story.”




These two oinkers traveled all over the US listening to false teachers
and plagiarizing their material,
but they skipped a WELS conference where Deutschlander spoke.
They blame Ichabod for their troubles.
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http://vdma.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/when-pastors-violate-trust/
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Trust.  This is the first qualification of a pastor.  He must be trustworthy.  This is because a pastor stands in the place of Christ, and has tremendous power over others.  He has been appointed by Christ to protect the flock, not to harm it.
It is wrong when a man says sexually inappropriate things to an unknown woman in a bar.  But because he has no power over her, she would feel little pressure to put up with his disgusting behavior.  However, when someone in a position of trust and power (for example, an employer, a doctor, a teacher, or a pastor) uses their office to say sexually inappropriate things to an employee, a patient, a student, or a parishioner, that is not only intrinsically wrong, it is also a violation of trust.
People with power over others have a duty to protect those in their care.  Doctors must protect patients.  Teachers must protect students.  Employers must protect employees.  And pastors must protect parishioners.
A pastor should not say sexually inappropriate things to an employee or a parishioner.  This is especially because a pastor has tremendous social power, not just over the victim, but often also over her family and friends.  He could not only use his position to create a hostile work environment, thereby pushing her to quit and lose her employment, but he could also apply social pressure in the church environment to keep her quiet, and to discredit her.  As a result, she could lose a job, a church, friends, and she could become depressed and maybe even alienated from Christ.
One might expect the wolves to attack the sheep, but a shepherd has been given a position of authority and trust.  He is there to protect the sheep.  Therefore, the shepherd must never intentionally harm the sheep, not even one of them.
Would a babysitter or daycare operator who intentionally harmed a child ever be put in that position of trust again?  Would a nurse who intentionally took sexual advantage of a patient ever be put in such a position of trust again?  Would a psychiatrist who intentionally hurt a patient be allowed to continue practicing?  The world does not tolerate this sin.  In the world, people who have violated a trust are not given offices of trust.
The issue is not just the intrinsic wrong, but also the abuse of an office to commit that wrong.  Those are two distinct offenses, and they magnify each other.  When a powerful person hurts a weaker person, that is an especially grievous sin.  How much worse is it when the powerful person is trusted by the weaker?  It is far worse because it is also a betrayal.  A pastor who has intentionally harmed an employee and/or a parishioner has also betrayed them.  He has betrayed the trust of not only the victim, but also his office, the Church, and Christ.
We do not trust betrayers.  Therefore, a shepherd who intentionally harms the sheep cannot be a pastor.
“But what about repentance?” some will ask.  First, “repentant” is not the only qualification to be a pastor.  A pastor must also be blameless and above reproach.  (1 Timothy 3:2, 7).  Second, genuine repentance involves not just faith, but also contrition.  (AC Apology XIIA (V) 28).  There should be fruit worthy of repentance.  (Matthew 3:8).
Thus, if a pastor says sexually inappropriate things to an employee or parishioner repeatedly over many months, he should resign immediately.  The pastor should not wait until her husband finds out.  He should not wait until the Circuit Pastor finds out.  He should not wait until the District President finds out.  He should not wait until after Christmas.  He should not wait until after the congregation’s building dedication.  He should not wait until the Synod President finds out.  He should not wait to be told to resign.  Finally, he should not file a meritless lawsuit against the victim or her husband.
True repentance is contrition and faith.  True contrition means that we accept the temporal consequences for our sins.  In contrition we accept the consequences, in faith we trust that even though we suffer in this world because of our sin God will still protect us to eternal life.  Only a man who completely surrenders in contrition and faith will ever be trusted again.
But if we try to avoid taking full responsibility, then we show that this world is more important to us.  And if we do not bear fruit worthy of repentance, then we are not fit to be called “pastor” or even “Christian.”
Jesus said, “Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.”  (Matthew 10:39).  May the Lord grant to all of us true repentance.

Wednesday, March 26, 2014

AK-47 Used as Prop in WELS Sermon - "922 Church" -
Sounds Like St. Peter in Freedom.
Rick Techlin Is the Member Glende/Ski Excommunicated for Telling the Truth.
Next Time......

From the WELS Church and Changers who hide the altar, baptismal font,
cross, Creeds, liturgy, hymns, and sermon.


WELS logoRecently, a WELS pastor used an assault rifle as a sermon prop, specifically an AK-47.
The original Kalashnikov AK-47 was developed by the Russians during the Cold War, and came to be associated with the enemies of America and the West.  During the Vietnam War, it was the primary infantry weapon used by the North Vietnamese Army and The Vietcong.  (Vietnam War.net).  Although often associated with the Cold War, the AK-47 is still in widespread use today.  (GunClassics.com).  Because it is easy to produce and operate it is a favored weapon of many guerrilla and resistance groups, and is currently in use by the Taliban in Afghanistan and Al-Qaeda in Iraq.
Recently, the U.S. Army fought against an insurgency in Iraq.  When a soldier serves in an area of insurgency, he must be on constant guard because he could be shot at anytime, anywhere, by anyone, even people dressed as civilians.  Over prolonged periods of time this can be very stressful, and often has a profound negative psychological effect.  Even after returning home, when in public, many combat veterans still prefer to keep their backs to a wall as protection.
Therefore, under such circumstances, one can imagine how veterans of a recent insurgency war like Afghanistan or Iraq might feel when they see the preferred weapon of their enemy.  I can imagine that they would be made to feel at a minimum profoundly uncomfortable.  In fact, a veteran of the Iraq War complained about the sermon prop, and said the AK-47 made him uncomfortable and that it was an improper prop to use in a sermon.
The sermon took place at a WELS congregation that calls itself (among other things) “922 Church.”   922 refers to 1 Corinthians 9:22: “I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.”  According to their website
being “all things to all people” means the following:
•  offering a variety of worship opportunities each week all grounded on the truth of God’s Word but different in style—some using the traditional Lutheran Liturgy, others being modern traditional, and still others that are non-traditional.  We believe this variety is essential so that we can reach more people.  Different worship styles “speak” to people differently, so our members and guests are able to pick the form of worship that is most meaningful to them so that they’re motivated to live their lives for the Lord.
•  using technology and the visual arts in worship and beyond
What purpose does an AK-47 have in a sermon?  An assault rifle does not deliver the forgiveness of sins, nor does it render unto God a sacrifice of praise.  After the service, what were people talking about?  Jesus?  Sin?  Forgiveness?  Or the fact that the pastor had a gun in church?  And not just a gun, but a big gun?  And a notorious gun?  But that is just the point.  From the perspective of the church Growth Movement, getting people excited about “church” is what is important.  “Becoming all things to all people” is about giving the customers what they want, and bringing them back for more.  And if a big notorious gun will serve to get people excited and talking and coming, then it served its purpose.
However, a gun is not God’s word.  God has promised to come to us in word and sacrament.  Do we trust God’s promises and means?  Or do we trust in the “wisdom” of men?
It is not wrong to use a prop in a sermon.  But what is the wisdom supporting the prop?  Is it the hidden wisdom of God hidden in word and sacrament?  (1 Corinthians 2:7).  Or is it the wisdom of men that seeks attention and earthly glory?

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GJ - Roger Kovaciny brought a gun into the pulpit and brandished it during a Lenten sermon.

"Just the guy we need in the Ukraine!"

Sunday, March 16, 2014

Meet the DP-in-Waiting, Anything Goes District - WELS

Joel Zank, Mequon 1987 - the class was
a treasure trove of Shrinkers.

Update from NWD 1st VP Joel Zank:
Dear Brothers,
I have just returned from visiting Doug Engelbrecht. He is doing amazingly well given the severity of his heart attack. He was sitting up in a chair and had hopes of being released from ICU to a regular room within the hour. I had a devotion with him and Gayle as well as their two children. We encouraged each other with the Lord’s love and promises. The family is so grateful for the ministry they are receiving from Pastor McKenzie and their church family at Trinity.
The course of Doug’s recovery will depend, in part, on what an ultrasound test reveals this afternoon. It’s my understanding that the surgeon’s first order of business was to restore blood flow to Doug’s heart. That was done by repairing one artery at this time. The other arteries remain blocked and will, most likely, be the target of future treatments. We should know more relatively soon.
I assured our dear brother that prayers on his behalf are being offered throughout the district and across the synod. He and His family send their thanks for those prayers!
As you might imagine, between his congregation and all of us, there could be a steady stream of visitors to his hospital room. Doctors are advising against that at this time. They want our brother to rest and regain his strength. I told Doug that I would pass along the doctors’ concerns and he reluctantly agreed that such a thing would seem best. He knows that you are thinking of Him and would want to visit Him if it was at all advisable.
In the meantime, if you have district business for Doug, please direct that to me or to one of the other members of the presidium. We will do our best to help you in any way that we can.
Please share this note with the men in your circuit. I tried sending a district-wide e-mail yesterday, but Google threatened to disable my account. I’m working to remedy that, but for now, your help is greatly appreciated!
I join all of you in thanking our gracious God for sparing Doug’s earthly life. We commend His Holiness to the care of Him who has plans to bless us and not to harm us, plans to give us hope and a future – here and hereafter.

Yours in Christ Jesus,
Joel

The other Joel, Joel Lillo, thinks ill of my posts - but he had no problem with the Glende staff, with Tim in the lead, suing a church member for telling the truth, or St. Peter in Freedom excommunicating another one for identifying Tim's plagiarism and lies.
All this underhanded slander and abuse goes unreported, because no one wants to step on the third rail, WELS infallibility. Thus an incompetent and unworthy DP has been allowed to promote clergy who make him feel good about his limited skills. 
Why did no one resign from the praesidium when Doug forced the CRM status of Ski and had a call waiting for him seconds later?

Thursday, February 20, 2014

Response to Pastors Turning Down Calls to The CORE, St. Peter, Freedom - WELS

Dee Snider will accept a divine call to The CORE,
or if he is too conservative for the entertainment-style church bar,
Snider will accept a divine call to sell Thrivent insurance
as a Planned Giving Counselor.

Prediction coming true for the CORE. Another call returned. They're all protesting Ski's removal by not taking his call away from him. How many more returns before Dougy finally says, "Enough is enough! Ski has suffered. The souls at the CORE have suffered. I'm bringing him back!"


Tuesday, February 18, 2014

The CORE (Sunday PM Service, St. Peter, Freedom) - Shot Down Again



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Enter, Rev Jonathan I      St Peter - Appleton WI               02/16/2014
 Associate Pastor @ The CORE

Tuesday, February 4, 2014

WELS to Tim Glende's First Parish - Started by DP Rutchow in the 1970s -
"Drop dead!"


"Not that Word and Sacrament are ineffective in incorporating new souls into our fellowship. Not at all! But according to some serious Church Growth studies, as many as one-third of the people gained for protestant church membership today do not feel they really belong." 
David N. Rutschow, The Evangelism Life Line (WELS), Winter, 1985, p. 3. WELS DP for Southwest Wisconsin, perhaps the most loosey-goosey district of all, maybe even worse than Englebrecht's Anything Goes District.

WELS has just told Star of Bethlehem in Savoy, Illinois to drop dead. The mission board will seize the title to the property, sell it for cash, and pocket the profits.

DP Rutschow started the congregation in the 1970s. Tim Glende turned it into a debt-ridden, tiny congregation. There were several options to build up the congregation, which was paying on the loan which Glende encumbered for them. The WELS Mission Board refused to consider anything except liquidation of the congregation and siphoning the cash from selling the land. They already had their appraiser line up the numbers, the slaver dripping from their lupine jaws.

WELS does not care about the members, except for its fear they will join the LCMS - gasp! Remember that when WELS beats the drums for its "missions," which are really a corrupt system to reward and punish while grabbing the equity built up by faithful worshipers over the decades.

WELS had over $500,000 cash to buy a bankrupt bar in Appleton, so Glende's corpulent buddy with self-control problems could have his own pretend parish. And WELS loaned St. Peter in Freedom a hefty sum to spruce up the stinky bar and fumigate its gepuked restrooms.

Ski came from St. Marcus in Milwaukee, serving on Jeske's Church and Change board, fresh from his court appearance - where he had to pay for an appearance bond. Ski and Glende portrayed The CORE as a separate mission congregation - it was not. They also promoted it as "coffee house ministry" when it was really a bar ministry, as the local alcoholics soon found out.



Got this in e-mail today:

Sirs, we understand your church services the University of Illinois campus. How far are you from campus and what numbers of students do you estimate attend weekly service? Do you have a thriving campus ministry? We are LCMS members but our son attends a WELS HS, St. Croix Lutheran in Minnesota. We are researching schools.

Thank you,

WT

Not a week goes by that I don't get at least 1 e-mail related to U of I or one of the other schools we serve (Millikin University in Decatur, and Eastern Illinois in Charleston), but this week, I honestly am not even motivated to answer it after a week of dismal answers and lack of concern from the Western WI mission board, DP, and even President Schroeder. Their answer is "go to another WELS church." Well, there isn't one within a distance that allows regular attendance.

So, back to the e-mail... should I answer honestly? The truth is that the WELS congregation that serves all these schools will probably be closed by the start of the next school year.


Saturday, January 25, 2014

Glende to WELS Mission Board - "Shut Down My Disaster in Savoy, Illinois and Grab the Money for Yourselves!"

"Bless you WELS Mission Board, for buying that bankrupt bar for me.
And thanks for ignoring the WELS downtown church a short walk away."

Glende, fresh from WLS in Mordor, had to have things his way. The Mission Board let him force a "redevelopment" so he could have money to dump the campus location for one way out of town.

By the time Glende got done with Star of Bethlehem, few members were left and the new building was not even built. He vamoosed to St. Peter in Freedom, Wisconsin, a Church and Change free enterprise zone.

After taking over from Ron Ash, Glende hired his MLS friend Ski to spend oodles of money traveling around with him at various crack-pot Evangelical training camps, including gay activist Andy Stanley, closet Babtist.


Several women cried throughout the meeting. The purpose was simply to tell them that WELS would take over the property and shut down the congregation. WELS had no interest in providing mission support and a regular worship service.

I suppose that is only for congregations like St. Peter in Freedom, with $1.4 MILLION budget.

The parish cannot close during the school year because it is a designated evacuation site for two schools nearby.

Wednesday, January 22, 2014

Another Clown Ministry Candidate - His Bar Is Already Paid For - By the Genius Leaders of WELS




http://www.wels.net/about-wels/synod-reports/call-report-archive

01/20/14             WISCONSIN EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN SYNOD              9:06 am

                     P A S T O R   C A L L   R E P O R T
                       01/14/2014  through  01/20/2014

 Enter, Rev Jonathan I      St Peter - Appleton WI               01/12/2014
         Associate Pastor @ The CORE

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

WELS Members - Remember This When You Hear the Word Mission
From Keith Free and Mark Schroeder.
WELS Closing Tim Glende's Savoy Fiasco, Grabbing the Money from the Property

They like crabs, because they are all shellfish.

Meeting on Saturday, January 25, 2014

Hopefully this is just a reminder, but things are all set for meeting on Saturday, January 25, 2014. I will be there in person.
Pastor Nathan Strutz, Western Wisconsin District Mission Board chairman.

Meeting place: Star of Bethlehem, Savoy, IL.
Time: 9:00 a.m. for Star members. 10:00 a.m. meeting with reps from ST. Mark's, Normal.
The two meeting times will maximize everyone's time and still allow all items to be covered. It is hoped that items one and two below can mostly be covered by 10:00 a.m. We'll see.

I see three agenda items.
1. Update from CEF on facility loan. (a rep from the CEF will likely phone in and be placed on speakerphone for discussion.)
I spoke with Ron Hillman from CEF. He said no formal decision has been made, but indicated the most likely scenario would be deed in leui (sorry I can't spell that word correctly) of foreclosure.
2. Possible future ministry options in Savoy. (Will members transfer to other WELS congregations? Is there still a possibility of a group continuing to meet? How will they be served?)
3. Relationship with St. Mark's, Normal and Pastor Jenkins' role.
PS I'm trying to do things paperless, so I won't plan to print out this agenda, but if someone wants to have a printed agenda or post these items on a screen for discussion, that's great as well.

--
In Christ,
Pastor Nathan Strutz
608-515-4334
Jesus lived.
Jesus died.
Jesus rose!

***

GJ - GJ - Job descriptions in WELS must read like this:

"Cannot spell and too lazy to look up the word."

When young Tim was fresh from the seminary in Mordor, Wisconsin, he decided that Bethlehem Lutheran Church had to be remade in his image. He did not like a paid-for church on a university campus. No coffee bar!

The mission board let him "redevelop" the parish so he could grab other people's money to do what he wanted. The church building was bought by the Eastern Orthodox, where they have a thriving campus ministry today.

The mission bored terminated Bethlehem Lutheran so Tim could have a newly invented Star of Bethlehem at a rented facility. When they finally started to build, young Tim took off for Freedom, Wisconsin, where he could play in a bigger sandbox. Soon he was made senior pastor and MLS buddy Ski (with Bishop Katy) were added to the staff to create the illusion of The CORE, simply the evening service for St. Peter in Freedom. Ski and Katy had worked together for Mark Jeske at St. Marcus, Milwaukee.

After taking money from Star of Bethlehem members for years, the mission bored refused to give them mission support. Instead, they are closing down the parish after giving Ski and Glende a $500,000+ gift to buy a bankrupt bar in downtown Appleton - "The CORE."

The mission bored will pocket the money from selling Glende's Star of Bethlehem (with its coffee bar) because the town has grown out to the location and the land is worth a bundle.

There you have it, mission partners. WELS has millions of dollars to support a rich parish ($1 million plus annual budget) and denies support to the congregation they ruined by letting Glende have his way.

Wednesday, October 16, 2013

Where Did Ski Learn How To Ooze Jesus All Over People? - From the WELS-LCMS Enthusiast Mark and Avoid Jeske

Sounds like this is right from a secular coaching seminar,
but no - it is from jelly-televangelist Mark Jeske.


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4 hours ago near Milwaukee, WI
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  • God made you full of holes so that you will leak mercy all over the place!

    Who inspired Ski and Bishop Katy with
    his narcissism? 
    ---

    Monday, April 8, 2013

    Pastor Ski's Scrotum Sermon at Morrison Zion WELS Congregation.
    October 28, 2012.
    Ski Hisself Is the Means of Grace. He IS Jesus Incarnate!


    Pastor Randy Ott, who graduated in 89 with Joel Lillo and other Shrinkers,
    has proudly posted this sermon on his church websty.
    The sermon is reproduced verbatim below.


    MORRISON ZION EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH
    October 28, 2012
    150th Anniversary Worship
    Pastor Jim Skorzewski Lesson: Ephesians 2:1-9, 19-21
    Kill The Cow!
    It’s Not About The Building
    Yep...that’s one of those things.  I came in today and I ran in Pastor Ott and he said, “Hey, you brought your gown, right?”  I said, “You told me not to.”  He said, “Oh yeah, that’s right.”  Warm welcome to my guest visitors.  My name is Jim Skorzewski.  I go by Pastor Ski.  I’m a pastor in downtown Appleton at The Core.

    I kind of have a disclaimer this morning.  If you have your worship bulletin, inside your worship bulletin, kind of in that insert there you’ll see; you’re going to need that.  Also, as Pastor Ott talked about this morning, you have some pencils.  We are going to start right down here.  What I found is, I’m kind of a boring preacher, so the way we keep people awake is we make them write lots of stuff down.
    The other thing you also need to understand is the way we do things in my church is it’s very much interactive.  I don’t preach again until about 5:30pm, and I have lots of time. So the longer it takes for you to respond, the longer the sermon gets.  That’s just one of those things. 

    How many of you have ever heard the term “sacred cow”?  I know I’m 40 years old. I’m old.  A lot of people don’t necessarily talk that way anymore, but I think it’s one of those things. Have you ever heard that term “sacred cow”?  If you have, just put your hands up, it’s okay.  Anybody want to venture out and say what that is or define that? 5:30pm... lots of time.  Don’t worry, if you’re wrong, I’ll just tell you.  It’s okay.  (India?)

    In India they actually worship animals, cows, sacred cows.  But in our context, in our society today, a sacred cow is something that is holy and no one would ever talk about, touch, look to change, because it would so upset the culture.  So when Pastor Ott called me and he said, “Hey, I would love for you to come and talk at our 150th Anniversary.  Would you like to do that?  What would you like to talk about?”  I said, “How about I talk about why your building is bad?”  He went, “Great!  Love it!”

    So if you have your notes today, one of the things we are going to look at right away is Point 1.  It says this... whenever we talk about any kind of a cow or sacred cow, we need to make sure that we always “check our motivation.”  One of the things we have to recognize is this... something like that, a sacred cow, can actually come in and stand in the way between our relationship with our God.  And if we’re honest and we are clear, anything that stands in the way of our relationship with our God is an idol.

    You have that passage right away... Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature... which is idolatry. (Colossians 3:5.)

    I know right now you’re thinking “Oh man, 150 years.  We were going to come today and talk about how great it is.  We are going to talk about all these incredible things that happened.”  Maybe? Maybe.  But let’s be really honest and let’s look at all of the ways God has blessed us.  Let’s say first and foremost that we are going to check our motivation.  Nowhere is that clearer where maybe they started out in a really positive good way, but all of a sudden that motivation shifted then back in the Old Testament.

    Maybe one thing I should clarify too, one of the things we really believe downtown, I know you guys believe this too, is that the Bible is the greatest book ever, right?  Can I get like an “Amen” or something?  It’s the greatest book ever.  One of the things we do is we do everything topically.  We take and we have this crazy idea that the Bible proves itself.  From the beginning of Genesis to the end of Revelation, it all focuses on our Savior Jesus Christ and it weaves that altogether.  So in my sermon today, you are going to see passages from all over that drive this point home.

    Nowhere is it more clear that we need to look at motivation than the Old Testament in Genesis, right?  If you have your paper in front of you, just look at this text.  There’s a part of it you’re going to join in and read with me.  So check this out.  If you grew up in the church, you know this, right?  We have the tower of Babel and this is what happens. It says, They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar.  Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
    (Genesis 11:3-4.)

    So what’s going on is all the people have been kind of nomadic.  They lived in tents. They’ve had temporary shelters, and now they get this great idea that they are going to take and become permanent.  Maybe for you guys here you can kind of understand that looking back.  When was your building built?  1927 but you actually started in 1802, right?  1862, I need my glasses.  I took piano instead of math.  Let’s be honest, right? So you had a long time where you were in a temporary structure.  So you can get this. You can get it. 
    So look at this next part... “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens... Read the next nine words with me... so that we may make a name for ourselves.  Whoa, I said nine words.  Just nine.  So that we may make a name for ourselves, and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth.
     
    I’ll be honest, this morning I got into my office really early.  I Googled how to get here because I had never been to Greenleaf or Morrison.  I still get lost in Appleton after five years.  I’m driving down County W and all of a sudden, guess what?  I see this immense structure.  I say, “That’s got to be the church.”  There it is, standing out, drawing in people.  And I thought right away, “Man, this is so crazy because this is just like the thing.”  When this building went up, why did we build the building?  Didn’t we do this thing because we, as simple people, we love to do things like this.  And maybe we don’t always realize we do it, but if we’re honest and we look at our heart, we do this. We look and we say, “We are going to build this incredible thing,” and we couch it and we hide it and we say things like this, “for the glory of God,” when really we’re thinking in our hearts, we are going to say it’s for God’s glory, but we want to make sure that this is for us. 
    I’d be willing to bet that as part of your 150th celebration, there are tons of things you looked at and said we are going to fix and we are going to make better.  You kind of went down and you had this checklist and you said, “Man, this is going to be good, and this is going to be good.”  And maybe even you couched it this way... “We’re going to make it better so that when people come in, it will be warm and it will be welcoming and they will love it, and they will want to come back and this will all be for the glory and the honor of God.”  Did you do that?  No one is answering now.

    I’m not saying that’s wrong.  But I’m saying, are we honest?  So many times what happens is pride creeps in and we say we want the best.  We say we want it for God but really we want it for us.  I know this.  I’m a pastor downtown.  We spent the first four years, three and one-half years, in temporary places.  We started at an IMAX movie theater, moved to a concert hall, and here it is.  Are you ready for it?  Just recently, in June, we bought a bar that we turned into a church.  When you do that, you really can’t call it a “burch” or a “char.”  We call it a “chaloon.”  It just sounds better. As we are remodeling it, we can take and we can couch and say “We better have this.  We have to have this because guess what?  We want to do this for the Lord.”  Let’s be really honest.  This is Point 2 if you have your notes.  This is Point 2.  Let’s be really clear... “church doesn’t equal building.” 

    Church doesn’t equal building.  So one of these great things, you have the passage in front of you, right?  Matthew 16, one of my favorite sections of all Scripture.  Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”
    (Matthew 16:17-18.)

    Jesus takes his disciples up on a mountain, and this is what he said.  He asks them this question.  “Who do people say I am?”  His disciples just start going, “Some say you are John the Baptist.  Some say you’re a prophet.”  Then Jesus flips it and he drops it on them and he says this, “Who do you say I am?”  Simon Peter, who we can all relate to because he’s impulsive and he doesn’t think things through, he just starts talking.  He looks and he says, “You’re the Christ.  You’re the Son of the Living God.”  Good job Simon.  Jesus comes back and he changes his name from Simon to Peter and he does this. Check this out.  Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my (say it...) church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.”

    I have three kids.  I have a 15-year-old daughter who goes to Fox Valley Lutheran High School.  I have a 12-year-old who is a 7th  grader at St. Peter.  And I have a 5-year-old who is also at St. Peter in kindergarten.  When my wife told me that we were expecting our third, I got a little bit nervous, but also a little bit excited.  In our house, we kind of name our kids for very specific reasons.  My oldest daughter’s name is Abigail.  That name means “the joy of my father.”  My second daughter is Megan.  It is a derivative of Margaret and means “the blessed one” or “the pearl,” brings a lot of joy.  So I said to my wife, “Man, if we’re having a third child, I need to know what it is, because if it’s going to be a girl and I’m going to have three girls, I have to prepare, and we are going to name her Mara,” which means “bitterness.” 

    So we get to that incredible point where we get to have the ultrasound, right?  Those of you that have kids, you know this.  I was a pastor in Milwaukee.  Sometimes being a pastor gets perks because when you go in for the ultrasound, you’re not supposed to take people.  It’s just you.  But we were big like “you kids are part of it and you are going to have a little brother or sister and this is huge and we are going to find out.”  We said to our tech before, it was someone from our church, “can we bring our kids?”  They said, “Pastor, you’re not supposed to, but you’re my pastor, so sure.” 

    So we go CIA on our kids.  “We are going to take you in this room.  It’s going to be dark.  Don’t talk.  You’re not supposed to be there.  It is a huge responsibility.  She is breaking rules.”  My kids are like “Okay.”  So we go in and my wife is sitting there.  They put the goo on and move it around and all of a sudden you hear the “whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.”  You know what I’m talking about?  My kids are there and the lady has the little baby up on the screen.  She grabs the John Madden pen and she says this... “Do you want to know what you’re having?”  I looked and I went, “Yes, of course I do.”  She took the John Madden pen and draws a huge circle.  She puts a dot right in the middle and says, “That right there is a scrotum.” 

    My daughter who was seven jumps from her chair and does this... “YES!!!!  A SCROTUM!!!!”  I thought the baby was going to be born right there because my wife freaked out.  The tech doesn’t know what to do.  My daughter turns to her sister and goes “Abby, what’s a scrotum?” 

    I know right now you’re thinking, what does this mean?  That’s a good Lutheran question, what does this mean?  I think that’s just what happened on the mountain, because Jesus says this.  Peter makes this confession, right?  “You’re the Christ.  The Living God.”  And Jesus comes back and he says, “Peter, on this rock, on this confession, on what you just said, I’m going to build a church.”  And I bet the disciples were like this... “WOO!!!”  “What’s a church?”  This is the thing.  You have common people.  You have common people, Jewish people.  The only place they went was synagogue, not church.  This is where Jesus instituted it. 

    Notice what he said.  He’s not saying “Hey look.  Peter, this is what I want you to do. I want you to lie down and we are going to put in the foundation and we’re going to put pillars on you and boom, this is it.”  No, he looks and he says, “You guys, you disciples, you Peter, this message, this message that Jesus Christ is the One who was promised, the One who came, the One who lived, the One who died, the One who would be crucified and resurrected, all to fix a broken relationship with a God who is perfect, this message is the church.”  This message.

    We have a saying downtown and it goes a little something like this... Hell is hot and eternity is long, and because of that, we don’t want people in hell for eternity.  Someone called me out recently and said, “You know, when you say that, hell is hot and eternity is long, that’s kind of negative.  Why don’t you say this, ‘Heaven is really good and eternity is really long, and we want you there with us.’”  I said, “I like that.”  This is what it is... Jesus loves you and he values you so much that he lives and dies for you.  He lives and dies for you.  That changes everything.

    Notice what he says.  Look at this passage.  Pastor Ott read it before from the Lesson. Look at what he says... Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone.  In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord.  And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit. (Ephesians 2:19-22.)

    Downtown at my place, this is how I dress.  I’ll tell you, I get more ministry done outside of that building than I get done inside that building.  But it’s one of those things as we are getting our building set up and kind of how we conducted our ministry, you might not believe this, but we get some flack. 
    In our new building, we have a 44-foot screen, and a stage, and a band.  I almost got in trouble when your kids sang because I was going to start clapping.  We clap.  We’re clappers.  It’s just one of those things.  One of the things I hear is this.  People will come and they’ll look at what we do.  They don’t worry about what we preach.  They don’t get caught up in that because that’s not really what’s important some people would say.  I disagree.  They look at how we do things and they say things like this... “What you’re doing isn’t really how Jesus would do it.”  Now let’s be really clear, if we’re going to do things the way Jesus did things, and we’re going to look at how Jesus did things, and we’re going to pattern and model everything after him, I’m going to tell you right now that you have a huge remodel project because Jesus wore sandals and preached from a boat.

    Do you know what the crazy thing is?  He didn’t have gowns.  He didn’t have altars. He didn’t have screens.  He has a message.  The message is this.  The world is sinful and broken.  The world needs a Savior.  The world needs to be shown what love is and what value is.  And he says this, “I not only will tell you, I will do it.”

    I read a lot.  Not necessarily books, but blogs and things like that.  I heard this great story. This couple was coming out of marriage counseling.  They go their separate ways.  He goes back to work and she is going home.  As she is going home, this is what happens.  She’s driving by this house and she sees this 86-year-old woman out there with a lawn mower in 97° mowing the lawn.  She stops.  She gets out.  She has heels on.  She has a dress on.  She says to the lady, “Hey look, I am going to mow your lawn for you.  I want to do this.”  The lady looks and says, “You don’t even know me. Why would you do this?”  She says, “Because I love you.  That fact that it’s 97° out, you’re in your 80s and you’re out here mowing, I love that, and I love you.  I believe that love does.” 

    So the wife gets out and starts mowing the lawn.  The lady goes around the house and she goes into the garage and gets another lawn mower and starts mowing the other side with her.  She says to her “It’s because love does.  I’m so overwhelmed by your gift.”

    This is the thing.  I’ll call Pastor Ott out right away.  I loved everything he said in the beginning except one thing.  He said we have to preach the Gospel.  I don’t ever talk like that.  I’ll never talk like that.  Because guess what? I get to.  I get to.  It’s not a have to.  This is it.  When you recognize true faith, what Jesus has done for you, everything changes.  For some of you here, you maybe never had that moment.  I know.  This is one of the things I believe, and you’ll hear me say it over and over again if you come to our church.  If you want to impress people, talk about your successes.  If you want to impact people, talk about your failures. 
    So you want to talk about things not happening in church and buildings are great and we’re going to get there, but let’s talk about what happens outside the church.  I’m going to tell you a story about my failure as a pastor.  It was my vicar year.  I vicared at Neenah, Martin Luther.  It was a Friday.  I had to have my sermon in.  I was late and my bishop calls me and says, “I need you to go to the hospital.”  I didn’t want to go to the hospital because I had to get my sermon in because I had a deadline.  But I went to the hospital.  I’ll tell you, I ripped the guy off.  The guy I went to visit, the guy I did devotion with, I ripped the him off because I wasn’t there.  I was there physically, but I wasn’t there emotionally, I wasn’t there spiritually and I wasn’t there mentally.  I ripped him off because I was so caught up in what I had to get done.

    I got in the elevator... understand, this is like in May or June, and vicar year ends in August.  So really I’m about 15 months from being a “real pastor.”  It was close.  I get in the elevator and I’m going down.  There were two people in there.  Two people.  They were talking about someone who had cancer.  I think it was their mom or their aunt. They were weeping and talking about there being no hope.  Guess what I said? Nothing.  In fact, this is how bad it is.  I left.  I got in my car.  I drove back to my house. I got seven blocks from the church, and it was like this... what are you doing?!  I turned back around.  I drove back in.  How many of you have ever been to Theda Clark in Neenah?  They have the nice older ladies who are always sitting at the counter.  I went in and I said, “Ma’am!  I was just in the elevator with two people!  They were talking about someone who was sick and dying.  Do you know who they were?!”  You’re in a hospital.  I remember walking back to my car and thinking “Guess what?”  Never again.

    I loved something right away when I came in here and sat down.  I loved this.  On the front of your bulletin, you have this... Morrison Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church, Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod.  And you have this... Our mission is to glorify God as we help people grow in the Gospel and go with the Gospel.  I wonder, I don’t know because I’m not here, I wonder if your people know it and they see it and they do it and they live it.  I would challenge you.  You’re the church.  You’re the church. Church isn’t about buildings.  You are the church.  Do you do that?  Do you adopt this as your own mission statement?  Or do you have your own mission statement?

    Our church’s mission statement downtown is this... The Core exists to transform lives for Jesus through faith that is real, relevant and relational.  My personal mission statement is this, because I’ve developed my own... From every pore of my body, I will ooze Jesus Christ so that in this world, as I brush up against people, my sweaty, oozy Jesus will get all over them!  Every day he gives you opportunities.  Every day!

    This is the thing though, final blank.  We know that “God brings incredible blessings through buildings.”  150 years?  I want you just to think about this for a second.  We’ll put your pastor on the spot.  How many baptisms have been done here?  All of them? Good.  Got a number?  Lots.  How many confirmations?  Lots.  How many weddings? In fact, I bet some of you who are here when you walk in here you remember how you stood up here with the pastor.  It may not have been Pastor Ott.  It may have been someone else because we’re interchangeable, right?  Pastors come, pastors go, it’s that message now here with the Word and in front of your friends and in front of your family and before God when you made those vows.  Now every time you come in here you’re reminded how incredible it is that God blesses you.  Think about how many people have had funerals here where you have celebrated they had won the race and they’re now home.  You can’t do that on a street corner. 

    Buildings are incredible blessings.  But let’s be clear.  It’s here where you bring people. It’s here where you come to be recharged.  Look at this passage... One thing I ask from the Lord, this only do I seek:  that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the Lord and to seek him in his temple. (Psalm 27:4.)

    You have to understand, our building is so not like this.  Right Mark, Reese? Not like this. So this morning I come in, and I was really paranoid because I figured I was going to get lost.  It’s just one of those pastor things when you are guest preacher and I kind of figured that I was going to roll in at like 9:05am and be lost driving around like “Where is the church?”  But here it is.  I walked in and I looked up here and this is exactly what happened.  I was just like this... “Oh man!  This is so cool!  So cool!”  This is what I noticed.  Your building is so visitor friendly.  You have good people.  I sat down this morning and the people behind me introduced themselves to me, and they said, “You must be Pastor Ski.”  I think the mic gave it away, I don’t know, might be, right? Everything is neat and it’s tidy.  And this is the thing... you are prepared to welcome guests, because it’s that message that is so important.

    I know that we cannot do anything to enhance the Gospel.  I loved what Pastor Ott said before... Our future is not our kids.  Our future is not our building.  Our future is this Gospel.  And you realize it, right?  It’s not about form.  It’s about that message. I love that he says “I want to dwell in the house of the Lord.”  I don’t know how it is for you, but this is how I hope it is for you.  This is how it is for us downtown.  On Sundays, our people look forward to coming because it’s here where they get recharged.  It’s here where they get to hear how much Jesus loves them.  It’s here that no matter what kind of week they have, when they walk through the doors, there are people who look and say “Hey, I love you and I’m glad you’re here and I’m glad you’re here to hear what He’s done for you, because it fills your cup and it sends you out.”  
    Last passage, check this out... Lord, I love the house where you live, the place where your glory dwells. (Psalm 26:8.) This is what I think.  Do you remember this one? You all know it... do it.  Here’s the church... 5:30pm!  I want to see all the hands up. Here’s the church, here’s the steeple, open the doors, see all the people.  Good.  You can clap for that.  We’ll clap for that, it’s nice.  Understand this, how do they get here?  How do they get here? 

    I don’t know Morrison at all, but I know this.  I know there are people in your life right now who don’t know Jesus.  Or maybe, maybe they know a Jesus, but they don’t know the Jesus.  They’re hurting and they’re broken.  This is my hope... my hope is that you have this incredible building and this is what you do... you don’t come in and look and say this is a museum of saints.  I hope you don’t come in and say things like “this is my pew” or “this is where my family sat” or “this is how it is” but rather that “this place here is a hospital for sinners,” where people who you know in your life you can bring in and you can say things like this, “Man, you’re life stinks right now.”  Or “Man, you’re hurting right now?  Let me tell you about my best friend, because my best friend makes it better.”  “You’re feeling unloved or unwanted or used?  My best friend doesn’t do that. In fact, my best friend says the opposite.  You are so loved.  You are so valued.  You are so wanted that he lives for you and he lays his life out and he dies for you.”  I tell you, that’s humbling.  It’s humbling.

    I don’t know what kind of people you are, but I think this is my thing.  This is what we built for downtown.  I know Randy and I know he does this.  It’s great to look back and it’s great to celebrate what God has done, but let’s be crazy.  Let’s be reckless for the Gospel.  Let’s look forward.  Let’s ask questions like this... the last 150 years have been incredible, what are the next 150 years going to look like?  When we say how many baptisms and he says all of them and he says lots, what does that mean in the future? This is the thing, you are a part of that!

    In my church downtown, we’re a huge outreach.  That’s what we do.  We push that. We push that.  We push that.  Somebody always asks this question to me... how many people do you have on your outreach committee?  How many people are on your evangelism committee?  I always laugh and I say to my assistant, “How many people were in church last week?”  She says “270.”  I say, “What about the week before?”  She says “330.” I say, “That’s how many we’ve had the last two weeks.”  They look and they say “You don’t have an outreach committee?  You don’t have a evangelism committee?”  I say “I do, they’re called Sunday worshipers.”  We’re not going to do that. We’ve removed the responsibility from the people.  Rather it’s this message that changes hearts, changes lives and if we are honest, it changes eternities and that’s our responsibility.  The thing is that it’s not a have to, it’s a get to.  It’s a can’t help but.

    This is my hope and my prayer for you this morning... we get to look back a little bit, but we look forward, and we get excited to see what our God is going to do.  We get fired up.  And man, from every pore of your body you ooze that goodness, that love, that compassion.  And that you bring those people here so that they can hear what he has done.  We ask for his help in this in Jesus’ name.  Amen.

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    I lost the link, but I just read on the internet that the Israeli Antiquities Authority recently announced a surprising upheaval of what was previously understood about worship life before the destruction of Jerusalem in 79 CE. [sic] Based on a meandering statement made by a sweaty drunk in faded jeans, the Israelis now believe there were actually no Jewish altars around Jerusalem from about 4 BCE to 35 CE.
     
    I don't ask for much from the sermons I hear. I don't ask for joke factories. I don't ask for giant projection screens or powerpoint presentations. I don't ask for a barrage of anecdotes and sentence construction to marvel at.

    Here's what I do ask for: God's Law and Gospel. Sounds simple, right? I just read and reread the above blathering and just shake my head. I just shudder. The focus is taken off of God and His Word and His Means of Grace and instead the focus is placed on the messenger and how evangelizing makes you feel good. Why focus on God anyway, right? That would be as absurd as stealing the focus away from the 150th anniversary of an established church and place it on your drivel about your "mission" church/bar instead.

    After all that time spent in Lutheran day schools, high schools, colleges, and seminaryplus being in a congregation and the simple concept of presenting Law and Gospel in a sermon is still lost? Sad, just plain sad. Can't mention God's Law but can mention scrotum several times. Fantastic. That's just great. Happy 150th Anniversary! I'm sure the church founders would have beamed with pride.
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    I don't ask for much in sermons that I hear. I don't ask for humor. I don't ask for numerous anecdotes. I don't ask for powerpoints. I don't ask for projection screens. I don't ask for dazzling monologues or fantastic and elaborate sentence construction.

    Here's what I do ask for: Law and Gospel. Seems like a simple request, right? I read and reread the above "sermon" and rather than explaining God's Law and Gospel, I just heard someone who enjoys listening to himself talk instead. If this rambling drivel is typical of a normal "sermon", I shudder. Everything appears to be based on personal feelings not the Word. You're spreading the Word just because it makes you feel good. So the focus is taken away from God and placed on you. Just like the focus of an 150th anniversary is taken away from the church in question and placed on your watered down "mission" bar/church.

    Sad. Just sad. Oh and to appropriate and misquote from Planes Trains and Automobiles: "When you're telling a story, have a point. It makes it that much more interesting for the listener. Not everything is an anecdote, pick and choose."
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    This was a sermon for a church anniversary? What a buffoon! Like his former partner mark and avoid, he gets a free pass on whatever he says. Notice how the preaching style is based upon the worst of the televangelists: " can I have an amen?" This clown is the ringmaster of the circus church.
     
    Ichabod -

    Yikes! First, the "scrotum" remark and then this:

    >>>>>> My personal mission statement is this, because I’ve developed my own... From every pore of my body, I will ooze Jesus Christ so that in this world, as I brush up against people, my sweaty, oozy Jesus will get all over them! >>>>>>> ["Pastor Ski's own words]

    I'll tell you, if I had been sitting in that church that Sunday, hearing this "Ski 'sermon,'" I would have jumped from my seat and scurried through the nearest exit enroute to the nearest restroom facility!

    Nathan M. Bickel
    www.thechristianmessage.org
    www.moralmatters.org
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    Joel Lillo, Fox Valley

    6 months ago
     
    Hey, I was even roommates with Randy my Senior year.

    The conspiracy keeps on growing, doesn't it, Greggy?