Showing posts with label KJV. Show all posts
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Saturday, March 7, 2026

Tom Fisher's Sheep, Follow the KJV for Clarity,

 



Tom Fisher Post: Thy Kingdom Come

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  • Tom implored Gregory to address the LCMS's perceived apostasy regarding the King James Bible and justification by faith.
  • Tom expressed heartbreak over LCMS professors and pastors rejecting the KJV in favor of corrupt texts and embracing objective subjective justification.
  • Tom urged earnest prayer of the Lord's Prayer, emphasizing that God grants faith and brings His Kingdom through His Word.




Tom Fisher

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Dear Pastor Jackson,

I can honestly state that I have energetically implored LCMS professors, Presidents, pastors, and laymen to turn back to God's pure INCORRUPTIBLE Word in the King James Bible and cling to justification by faith in Christ instead of objective subjective justification false doctrine. They responded with nothing but mockery, hate, and threats for the past 45 years. Everyone should be shocked at their persistent hatred of God's INCORRUPTIBLE Word in the King James Bible and their hatred of the doctrine of justification by faith in Christ without our works. The blindness and hardness of heart among LCMS professors, pastors, and laymen is heartbreaking. How can God's Kingdom come in the face of such ingrained and hardened apostasy? Are Lutheran's without hope? What shall we do? Perhaps we need to earnestly pray the first and second petitions of the Lord's Prayer remembering that no one can come to Christ in true faith without being drawn by God the Father. 

43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:43-44

How could LCMS fall so far from grace and stubbornly embrace such horrible apostasy?  LCMS was so much stronger and vibrant with the preaching of Walter A Maier on the Lutheran Hour!  Was it his winning personality that drew multitudes to listen to his preaching with rapt attention?  Perhaps it was Walter A Maier preaching the pure INCORRUPTIBLE efficacious Word of God in the King James Bible! Perhaps it was Walter A Maier faithfully preaching justification by faith in Jesus Christ without our own works!  

Pastor Gregory L. Jackson, PhD, quoted Walter A. Maier on page 47 of his book titled: The King James Version: Apostolic Texts, Precise Translation versus Fraudulent Texts and Heretical Translations:

"Justification by faith in Christ together with its twin truth, the inerrancy of Holy Scripture, are the keystone and cornerstone of Protestantism. Neglect one or both and the whole structure will fall into ruin."

LCMS has sealed her ruin by clinging to the fraudulent and heretical Greek Vaticanus and Sinaticus, the corrupt Greek Nestle-Aland text, ESV, NIV, RSV, NASB, and NKJ. They have completely rejected the inerrancy of Holy Scripture. I can hear them chanting: "No text contains the same Words God inspired the prophets and apostles to write. All Greek texts and all translations contain some errors and omissions. The original autographs are gone forever, therefore God's PURE INCORRUPTIBLE WORD is gone forever."  They completely ignore Psalm 12:6-7.



 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. Psalm 12:6-7

 LCMS completely fell from grace by officially accepting the false teaching of objective subjective justification in the 1932 Brief Statement. Here LCMS officially rejected justification by faith in Christ without our works. This is heartbreaking because it undermines, CONFUSES, and destroys the true faith of millions of Lutheran's. What shall we do? Perhaps we need to pray the Lord's prayer in true faith earnestly begging God to grant that His name may be Holy among us and that His Kingdom would come to us and also to the whole world.

Luther explains the meaning of the second petition in his Small Catechism:

"Thy Kingdom come.

What does this mean? Answer:

The kingdom of God comes indeed without our prayer, of itself; but we pray in this petition that it may come to us also. 

How is this done? Answer:

When our heavenly Father gives us His Holy Spirit, so that by His grace we believe His Holy Word and lead a godly life, here in time and hereafter in eternity." (Luther's Small Catechism pamphlet, CPH, pgs. 8,9)

God has given us His Holy Word in our King James Bible. In our Baptism God has clothed us in the righteousness of Christ, giving us the gift of the Holy Ghost ' so that by His grace we believe His Holy Word and lead a godly life, here in time and hereafter in eternity.' 

Fathers and mother's,  kneel down with your little children every night, praying the Lord's Prayer with them. Teach them that God their heavenly Father hears their prayers and gives them special angels to watch over them. I can still remember my mother praying the Lord's Prayer with my brother and I.  Then she would rumple our hair and tell us to go to sleep, but we would ask her questions about God to keep her with us.




12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil. 1 Peter 3:12

Hold to the firm and simple faith God gave you as a little child!

18 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?

And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

God urges us to pray to Him in true faith, believing He will give us more than we can ask or think.

And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? Luke 11:9-13

In Christ,

Tom Fisher



Is Any Reading Better Than Reading the KJV Word of God?

 


Reading used to be a hobby in an easy chair or from a recording. BibleJohn was entering his eternal home when his Bible player was finishing his latest chapter of the Scriptures. He never stopped giving away KJV Bibles and always enjoyed the free gift sent for the empty arms.

His pitch was perfect. When someone walked near him outside, even when a road laborer, he shouted out, "Do you have a Bible?" The bait always said, "Have one?" BibleJohn always said, "Yes!"



That question was not the catch...yet. The customer said, "Does it cost anything?" BibleJohn smiled his biggest smile, "It is completely free!" and passed the book. Lots of high quality KJVs passed into the arms of the curious, and many more Bibles were multiplied, just as Jesus promised.

At his funeral BibleJohn repeated his story, though no longer on earth. His narration among the audience, before and after, included women's prison ministry, children who got their first Bibles, and many more. Feeble eyes enjoyed the extra large print on New Testaments and long-life for large, high quality complete KJVs. 




Thursday, January 1, 2026

Forever Young.



 Matthew 23: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem...

Going through some framed photos (glass and metal included), one person opined, "Save the young pix, old people are not looking for the heavy frames we have seen forever."



We can have thousands of photos on the computer or somewhere out in cyber-storage, but nothing compares to one's arms reaching the nearby framed photos of children's faces casually being delighted. Best if the children have already ignored the camera and gestures.



I would gladly place bets on the best outcome, not in money but in seeing those forever young expressions.

This is the Bible we protect.


 This is the Bible we carry and study.


Friday, January 17, 2025

Everything Except the Real Thing.
The Big Five Apostates - ELCA-LCMS-WELS-ELS-CLC (sic)

 




They loath Justification by Faith, the Reformation, which is why they ridiculed Luther for the 500th Anniversary, to sell some cheap trash.






They call themselves "Confessional Lutherans" but they do not study or understand the basics of the Book of Concord.

They love to designate themselves as "Orthodox Lutherans," but their little puddle of dogma comes from Martin Stephan, who gave his syphilis to the young women who serviced the self-proclaimed bishop.

They claim to be "distinctly Lutheran," which means worshiping every CFW Walther, C. Peter Wagner, Donald McGavran, and Mark Jeske quote.

They are Biblical - no really! - even though they drool over the latest butchered snip and clip fiasco. 



They adore the NIV, even though many non-Lutherans fail to see any quality or accuracy in that money-maker.



Saturday, October 5, 2024

Charlie Sue Walks Down Memory Lane

 

Charlie Sue did her warble to go on a walk and stood on her hind legs.

Several sources said that plain old walking was better than using a gym's dreadmill, which tossed me off just like the movies. I was more annoyed by the equipment being changed in the strangest way.

Some test runs showed that Charlie Sue loves walking with leash and treats her staff with kindness and patience. The late afternoon is a great time to walk and to see neighbors. We stopped at Bible John's to tell him Bethany has ordered 10 more Super Giant Print Bibles (KJV) and 24 KJVs for the women's group ($4 each). Super Giant Print is ideal for senior eyes. The smaller KJVs are for those women establishing a new life. 

If some want to designate one or both kinds of KJV Bibles, I can easily order them and get the discounts. We have donations from several sources, but if you also want to give as well, the need is there.

Bible John said, "Look at Charlie. She is watching the neighborhood, just like Sassy Sue when she was protecting us." Charlie turned around and licked Bible John on his hand. Pat often comes out and talks to Charlie, getting a kiss or two.

Bible John came over to the parsonage and gave away 3 Super Giant Print Bibles to three workers.



Sassy (above picture) refused to sit alone with fast-food fanatic Ronald McDonald. A stranger offered to take the photo including Sassy.


Tuesday, August 20, 2024

The Century of Regress

 


Everyone got all excited about the new century, known affectionately as Y2K,  or 2001 for the young'uns. I was hired to do some work with Cisco, a short-term project because they canned their own product, a home router. 

The change introduced me to teaching at Glendale Community College, connecting me with the University of Phoenix and giving me local courses on computers, writing, and the humanities. That led me into online teaching for UOP and then GCU. UOP was eventually merged into the State of Utah system, shrinking faster than wool socks in a dryer. GCU's physical campus grew exponentially and also online. 

Our country has gone into the gutter with dishonesty, deception, fraud, and crime. I listened to the speeches last night, a continuous roar of dishonesty and self-destruction. I wondered, "Do they really want to lead with the destruction of human life, as if that was virtue? Evil is good, and whatever is noble must be covered with their slime.

The best we can do is to rely on and absorb the two great treasures which are easily obtained and yet are scorned and vilified by the Great Ones. 

The King James Version

The treasures are first the King James Bible, which used the martyr William Tyndale and 50 great English scholars to produce a clear and precise masterpiece -

  • The Old Testament, ancient and preserved in infallible Hebrew.
  • The New Testament, early and precise in Koine Greek.


Martin Luther, Melanchthon, and Chemnitz -
The Reformation
By chance, if there is such a thing, Luther became a Biblical professor, translated the Bible with the help of other genius translators, and battled the Church of Rome. His life was always on the line.

Friday, June 28, 2024

Monday, June 24, 2024

Discerning Maine Coon Cats Are Known for Their Bibles

 

My favorite version? The King James Version.

Friday, April 12, 2024

The New King James Version - Who Published It? Bad Dreams Are Made of This!

 


"Thomas Nelson commissions 130 scholars, pastors, and lay Christians to create the New King James Version (NKJV) of the Bible, aiming to “retain the purity and stylistic beauty” of the original King James produced in 1611. The New Testament is released in 1979, and the entire Bible follows in 1982. The NKJV becomes one of the top three bestselling Bibles, alongside the NIV and KJV."

Timelin above


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"In the mid-1970s, Bible publisher Thomas Nelson found itself with extra capital and decided to channel these profits into the New King James Version of the Bible.

The new version strove to revise the King James Version (KJV) with updated language. The seven-year project drew on the skills of 130 respected Bible scholars and church leaders. The New Testament was released in 1979, and the entire Bible followed in 1982. The NKJV went on to become one of the top three bestselling Bibles, alongside the NIV and the KJV.

Harper & Row acquired Zondervan and the NIV in 1988, and 23 years later, HarperCollins purchased Thomas Nelson and with it, the NKJV. The move shocked many in the industry because Nelson and Zondervan, the two largest Christian publishers in the world, had long been direct competitors. Despite initial concerns about the viability of the transaction, the two Bible versions continue to flourish as part of what is now HarperCollins Christian Publishing."

Stories above

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The History of the NKJV Bible

In 1611, the King James Version of the Holy Bible was published in England. No other book has had as much impact on the world as this historic translation. Earlier century scholars maintained the translation by modifying grammar, spelling and word usage to keep the biblical language alive and relevant for each new generation. In 1769, updates to the King James Version ceased, and its words continue to be cherished today. In the last thirty years, more than forty modern translations of the Bible have been published, and the King James Version continues to be the overwhelmingly favorite translation.

In 1975, more than two-hundred years since the King James Version’s last update, the boldest and most extensive revision in the history of modern Bible publishing began. With a 130-person team of Greek, Hebrew, and English scholars, editors, church leaders, and Christian laity Thomas Nelson Publishers sought to preserve the accuracy and poetry of the King James Version, but in a language that the everyday person could understand. In 1979 the NKJV New Testament was finished, releasing only the Book of Psalms in 1980. In 1982, the New King James Version was released in its entirety, seven years after its commission, making it the fifth major revision to the beloved King James Version.

Above - Thomas Nelson, aka TAN, which publishes Roman Catholic polemics

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GJ - King James himself did not want a lot of footnotes, which steadfastly change the message of the Bible. The KJV is stingy with notes. The New KJV employs new edits and footnote$, which help to $how that they own the copyright for the every-changing New KJV. Ditto the NIV and the rest.

The Westcott-Hort Greek New Testament, which I own, has no footnotes to explain why they changed the text, erasing such words and phrases as "the Son of God" Mark 1 - and Mark 16:9-20. Didja notice that Presiding ELCA Bishop Liz Eaton said in her Easter 2024 message that Mark's Gospel ended at Mark 16:8 ("for they were afraid")? The Bogus Beck Bible from Christian News does the same.




Tuesday, April 2, 2024

Tom Fisher Knows More Than the Cash-box Waltherian Seminaries.
Question - Who Kept Bishop Stephan's Gold? Hmmm?

 




Dear Pastor Jackson,

It is almost Easter already! Soon LCMS pastors will be reading the Easter account from Mark chapter 16. So I open my English Standard Version Bible to Mark 16 and begin reading in preparation for the Easter service. Everything seems somewhat fine until I arrive at verses 9-20. O my!! Verses [9-20] are bracketed.  What could these brackets [ ] intend to imply about verses [9-20]?  I wonder if there is a footnote from some renowned doctor of theology.  Oh, here it is!  The footnote says, "Some of the earliest manuscripts do not include 16:9-20." This seems to imply that the earliest manuscripts are the most reliable and accurate; therefore Mark 16:9-20 must be omitted or at the very least doubted.  Oh my!! These brackets and footnotes attack the certainty of the resurrection in Mark 16:9-20.  Then I remember reading Mark 16 from my grandmother's King James Bible with my brother Dan when were growing up. There were no brackets or footnotes in grandma's King James Bible! My grandma would have my brother Dan and I read the scripture passages from Portals of Prayer. We never found any brackets or footnotes. That's because the King James Bible is the pure Word of God!!

I must stand in awe of God working in history to perfectly preserve His Words for us in the King James Bible.  The King James Bible is the most renowned, revered, and trusted book in the world!  It even bears the name of the most powerful King in the world: King James of England!  No book in this world has ever been commissioned by such a powerful King. Hello!!  God is showing you the Bible He has attached himself to during the reformation and especially today in this age of lies, deception, and apostasy!!

During the Reformation, God's Word needed to be translated from the original Greek and Hebrew into the languages of the people: German, English, Spanish, Portuguese, Czechoslovakian, and many other languages.



Here comes Erasmus of Rotterdam, the world's most skilled, and renowned linguist; but the arch enemy of the Christian church.  Erasmus was a humanist, not a Christian. Surely God would not use him to preserve His Word!  But it is God's nature to purposely enrage our corrupt reasoning.

Even God's enemies must bow to His will.  So Erasmus published the TEXTUS RECEPTUS, having rejected the corrupt Vaticanus Greek Text held by the Catholic church.  Gutenburg had just invented the printing press so God's pure efficacious Words could be published in all languages throughout the whole world. 

Stand in awe my friends at God's Power, Foreknowledge, Will, Council, and Might working throughout history to fulfill His Word and promises for us His dear Christians.  God promised to perfectly preserve His Words for us in all languages:

"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Psalm 12:6,7

"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters." Revelations 14:6,7. 

At the Reformation we see and experience God's hand preserving His Word for us Christians. We see two families of Bibles emerge: one pure, and the other corrupt.  The one held by the  Catholic Church called VATICANUS is corrupt, the one chosen by God is called TEXTUS RECEPTUS.

[GJ - Concordia Publishing House's two-volume commentary on the shortest Gospel - Mark - begins with making Vaticanus the basic test. Where are the scholars? Answer - polishing their Objective Justification essays, tweets, epigram's and jokes.] 

Gutenburg and his new printing presses were ready and eager to print the pure Word of God through the whole world. What an exciting and wonderful time!! It was like the beginning of a famous horse race at Balmoral.  The starting gun went off, and the printing presses whirled publishing God's pure Word in the Greek TEXTUS RECEPTUS from which His pure Words would be translated into all languages: Luther's 1545 German Bible, the English King James Bible, the Spanish Reina-Valera Bible, the Portuguese Almeida Recenida Bible, the Czech Bible of Kralice, and many many others.  Today the modern high tech printing presses and internet whirl on, publishing God's pure Words in all languages throughout the earth. It falls like a gentle rain bringing forth fruit throughout the whole world. God's pure Word is always efficacious and abundantly fruitful.  It always produces invincible certainty in God and His Word. 

"For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater: so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Isaiah 55:10,11

So God's pure words in the King James Bible are like a gentle rain nourishing faith in Christ and a deep and abiding certainty of His resurrection from the dead recorded for us in Mark 16:1-20.

In contrast, the ESV (From the corrupt Vaticanus family) is like a heavy torrential rain washing away faith in Christ and bringing forth doubt, unbelief, and a deep uncertainty of Christ's resurrection from the dead recorded in Mark 16:1-20. 

Hang your heads in shame you LCMS English Standard Version preachers.  You create doubt in the resurrection recorded in Mark 16 by reading from the corrupt ESV Bible at Easter. The footnotes and brackets sprinkled throughout the ESV create doubt. The shocking omissions chew away the certainty of our faith, especially Christ's Godhead and divinity.

Well, let's give the ESV another chance.  Perhaps the mice have not left their footnote turds and chew mark omissions in Matthew's account of the resurrection!!  So I open my ESV to Matthew 28 and begin to read.  Oh no!!  There are mouse turd footnotes and omission chew marks in at least five places!! The most devastating footnote and omission is in Matthew 28:6, deleting the word 'Lord' from God's word. It creates doubt by stating, 'some manuscripts the Lord.' In contrast, God's pure Word in the King James Bible says with absolute certainty:

"Come see the place where the Lord lay." Matthew 28:6. 

Oh.no!! Another footnote turd of doubt rolls out of ESV Mark 1:1.  It creates doubt by saying, "Some manuscripts omit 'the Son of God'." In contrast, God's pure Word in the King James Bible says with absolute certainty:

 "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;" Mark 1:1.  

When I was growing up our family would skip breakfast and go to the sunrise service at Easter.  We were all hungry when we got home. This led to the tradition of cooking pancakes after the sunrise service. My brother  and I would take turns making the pancakes from Bisquick pancake mix.  On one memorable occasion, I was carefully measuring the Bisquick pancake mix and suddenly noticed a black speck in the measuring cup. Oh no!! A tiny mouse turd.  I knew I had to throw out the entire box of Bisquick due to that one tiny little mouse turd of corruption. 

The ESV Bible is just like that corrupted box of Bisquick.  Just one footnote of doubt corrupts the entire Bible.  Luther stressed that God's word must be studied and grasped as a perfectly harmonious whole. The corrupted Vaticanus family of Bibles (ESV, NIV, RSV, NASB, Beck's, NKJV, Nestle-Aland, United Bible Society, etc) completely shatter the perfect harmony of God's Word with doubt creating footnotes, omissions, and changes.

The resurrection account in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are all harmoniously tied to Colossians 2:9; 1 Timothy 3:16; 1 John 5:7,8 and many other passages. All of these passages are corrupted in the Vaticanus family of Bibles (ESV, NIV, RSV, NKJV, NASB, Beck's, Nestle-Aland, United Bible Society etc). 

In contrast, the TEXTUS RECEPTUS family of Bibles(King James Bible, Luther's 1545 Bible) chosen by God create absolute certainty in Christ's two natures, and his resurrection:

"All the power of the Godhead dwelleth in him bodily." Colossians 2:9

"God was manifest in the flesh." 1 Timothy 3:16

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." 1 John 5:7,8

"Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." Isaiah 7:14

"Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men." Luke 2:10-14

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life." John 3:14-16

Luther said to always hold to Christ as one person both God and man at the same time.  Jesus is God begotten of His Father from all eternity. Jesus is true man born of the virgin Mary. Jesus died for our sins according to the true gospel. He was dead and buried in a sepulchre. On the third day Jesus rose from dead, ascended into heaven and sat down on the right hand of God the Father. 

Jesus bore all our sins in his own body on the tree to make us dead to sin and alive to righteousness. He does this for us in our baptism, clothing us in the righteousness of Christ.

"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls." 1 Peter 2: 24,25

"All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all." Isaiah 53:6

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one." John 10:27-30

God has preserved the words He inspired the prophets and apostles to write. He preserved them for us in the TEXTUS RECEPTUS and the translations into other languages (King James Bible, Luther's 1545 Bible, and many others.) 

"The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Psalm 12:6,7

Jesus is true God and man in one person. We grasp this by faith in his words. 

Jesus rose from the dead the third day. The apostles were in a room with the doors locked. While they were talking Jesus himself stood with them and said "Peace be unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." Luke 24:36-39

In Christ,

Tom Fisher

What are they feeding the lambs growing up in Walther-land?