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Thursday, October 20, 2011

Another Fuller Program Will Cure the Ills Caused by Previous Fuller Programs in WELS.
Enthusiasm Breeds Enthusiasm



rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Gottesdienst Online: Memo to Synod: Mind Your Own ...":

Allegedly, the forthcoming emphasis for the WELS Stewardship Sunday is an emphasis upon time and talents of the laity. Recently, I heard a pastor call it "our ministry", as in "everyone is a pastor". There are several aspects of this attitude which bear emphasis. First, there is a downgrading of pastoral ministry, especially as it applies to the Means of Grace. Secondly, this places emphasis upon the laity as being stakeholders. It is akin to a communitarian approach to public ministry. The effect of this is to make members hamsters on a treadmill. This approach manifests itself with a nonstop parade of committee meetings, agendas, workshops, and lame "Bible studies". Great emphasis is placed upon members serving, with continued reminders that the "ball is in their court". The "technician approach" is undertaken, with members getting the impression that all one has to do is flip the right switches and tweak the controls, and the plans will fall into place. Plausible deniability is built in to this with certain Scripture passages that are proof texted to support the effort. What you end up with are members who no longer believe in the Efficacy of the Word and have instead become small m Methodists.

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GJ - The Lutherans really need a comprehensive study of the Book of Concord, but who will lead them? The faculties despise their own confessions and reject them. The MDivs find the Book of Concord "boring and irrelevant."

If there were a groundswell to study the Confessions, the Conference of Pussycats would finally find their claws and stop it. After all, Mequon has dogmatics notes that label justification by faith passages from the orthodox as "MISLEADING." That is also why Mequon is hotter than Georgia asphalt to buy the NNIV.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Another Fuller Program Will Cure the Ills Caused b...":

Excellent observations, rlschultz!

Did you catch how Bivens described the pastor's role in the Divine Service rite of Confession/Absolution in his Q&A answer posted here on Ichabod (http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2011/10/false-teachers-mislead-students-at.html)?

"This is why (AC V - i.e. UOJ) we may speak to one another to say 'Your sins are forgiven' or 'In the name of God, I forgive your sins.' This is why a pastor, acting on behalf of all the Christians in the assembly, says the same thing."

That's not how the rite reads even in the WELS CW hymnal: "Therefore, as a called servant of Christ and by his authority, I forgive you..."

Friday, September 16, 2011

WELS Is Catching Up to ELCA - Fast



Comment from Joe Krohn's Blog


Yi'su ke Bala said...
Do I understand correctly? The WELS pastor chooses not to answer a doctrinal question simply on the account that you are not in the fellowship of their communion? How would they expect to win back an erring brother (I assume that is their perspective in this situation)if they refuse any doctrinal discussion simply on the account that you are "not in fellowship." How do any non WELS people ever inquire into WELS position if they squelch any doctrinal discussions between WELS pastors and Christians who are not in fellowship with them? I can understand them frowning on the fact that you are communing outside their fellowship, but to refuse to answer a doctrinal question on those grounds seems preposterous. I am a member of LCMS who once was considering the WELS (in fact the same congregation that you reference in your posts). The pastor once told me that WELS was 'the old LCMS.' I can concede with WELS that the LCMS is not what it once was, but by no means do I discern the WELS to be anything akin to my grandfathers' LCMS. My grandfather's LCMS valued doctrinally rich hymns and liturgy and relied on Word and Sacrament to create the faith which receives the gift of salvation found only in the precious Blood of the Lamb. They did not value cultural relevance as some sort of third sacrament, turning Divine Service into a Rolling Stone Concert and jettisoning honest Bible translations for something that is PC to the masses. I'm thankful, at least for the moment, that I stayed where I am.


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GJ - I predicted a long time ago that WELS would have women's ordination long before Missouri, to use one yardstick of conformity to the Spirit of This Age. "The church that dances with the Spirit of This Age will be a widow in the Age To Come."

Women's ordination is just a symptom. Enthusiasm took over the sect many decades ago, with a lobbying group--known as Church and Change--determined to take no prisoners. They combine stealth and deceit even today. Kudu Don Patterson is a Church and Church leader but denies being part of it, even though he attended their "last" shindig.

How Church and Change took over everything is easy to determine. People suggested that I attend the "final" meeting of these shape-shifters, Regaining Momentum. I did latrine duty in Columbus - why sub for others after my enlistment is over?

When Issues in WELS met, Gurgle announced he would attend the next meeting, when 200 men were supposed to show up. That did it. Attendance was sparse, lest anyone arouse the righteous wrath of Gurgle. Faith makes people bold, and there is little faith among the pastors of WELS. DP Free died and Issues in WELS disappeared, website and all.

Tuesday, May 10, 2011

Religious Freedom and Suing Their Jackboots Off


grumpy has left a new comment on your post "Tim Glende's Shirt and Facebook Pose Say It All. W...":

Scott,

I disagree strongly with your statement that Rick should sue the congregation. Perhaps you simply meant that as a joke.

In our society where freedom of religion is protected (at least for now, sometimes, well you get the idea), I believe that such an action, although it may be seen as cruel and unjust, is still within the rights of a church body to do so.

On the other hand, I believe that Rick has the right to speak and write about the actions that were taken against him by his church. As long as what he says is truthful and non-slanderous of course that is protected by free speech.

It's kind of like when I tell Dr. Jackson that no preps or colleges are closing and then give him a "BA-ZING-OO"...

Grumps

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GJ - State law varies. Minnesota lets denominations get away with all kinds of abuse. That is why ELCA is incorporated there. The exception in Minnesota is kicking a member out. Use a pastor like a foot-rag and toss him out, violating the call contract. No problem. But kick a member out and he has the right to sue and be compensated.

I think a situation like this demands legal advice, even though Rick is an attorney himself. The great thing about a lawyer is that he removes 99% of the stress. Having a lawyer means being able to say, "I already discussed this with my attorney." That statement has removed many obstacles, saved thousands of dollars, and proved once again that the Law creates contrition.

They say that a lawyer who represents himself has a fool for a client. There is nothing unChristian about having an attorney be a spokesman in this kind of situation. One shady agency tried for several years to nail me for a $10,000 car loan taken out by a man with a different name, social security number, and race. I paid a lawyer $100 to phone this dude and say, "You could face credit libel charges, etc etc." Justice rolled down like a river. I could have sued and won, but I was assured that collecting from a guy like that was another matter.

All the clergy have a conflict of interest. Intrepid pastors have been told they will be kicked out if they step out of line - a threat never heard by Jeske, Kelm, Glende, or Ski, I am sure.

I am quite certain that WELS is sued on a regular basis and counter-sues, as they did when Team Gurgle looted the MilCraft Estate and the widow wanted the promised money. What does the Bible say about robbing widows and orphans? All in a day's work with WELS. That is why they promoted Gurgle from incompetent DP to incompetent SP. WELS did not give back the money willingly, but the court forced them to fork over $1 million. WELS actually went to court to keep the widow from getting the money due her. Try not to smirk when WELS talks about not suing a fellow-Christian. Under Gurgle, who now works for Kudu Don Patterson:
  1. The MilCraft Estate was ruined.
  2. They refused to pay the widow.
  3. WELS went to court to keep from paying the widow.
  4. WELS wasted a ton of money paying a lawyer to fight this widow in court.
  5. WELS had to pay the million in cash anyway, on top of legal expenses.
  6. Yes, that is Patterson's kind of guy, SP Gurgle.

But I agree with Grumpy about not bothering to sue WELS. Make them sweat, beg for mercy. Apologize? That would be a miracle.

Grumpy's dare is open-ended, so I get to say "Bah-zing" when the next school closes, or when Mary Lou College moves to Watertown and Milwaukee, a plan already seriously discussed.
4 preps, 2 colleges, 1 sausage factory = 7 schools.
3 preps, 2 colleges, 1 sausage factory = 6 schools.
2 preps, 1 college, 1 sausage factory = 4 schools.
The next number is either 3 or 2.

Friday, May 6, 2011

Militant Hmong Sought Who Threatened WELS Pastor





bruce-church (http://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Stole from WELS Too, But All Is Forgiven in Advanc...":

So Leon Peipenbrink would not have rec'd any scrutiny had it not been for his erratic behavior and outrageous claims?! You'd think the irregular accounting from 2007 to 2001 would have set off red flags before that. This occurred all under President Schroeder's watch, in case people are wondering.

Thursday, February 24, 2011

Getting Grumpier



grumpy has left a new comment on your post "Jeske and Ski, Change or DIE!:No Answer At This Ti...":

Since they are called/ordained members of the WELS, in all probability NOTHING will happen...

Now, if these were lay members who went to a non-WELS funeral, wedding, baptism, etc. of a friend or family member and were seen praying...well....that's quite a different story now, isn't it?

Grumps (getting Grumpier)

Tuesday, February 1, 2011

The Law as the Means of Grace

Holy Trinity Lutheran Church
Des Moines, Wash.

January 23, 2011
“Love Takes Time” – Week 3
Colossians 4:2-6
Take Time for Your Neighbors!
1. By your earnest prayers
2. By your own actions
Hymns: 241 – 525 – 521
All Scripture quotations from the NIV
Colossians 4:2-6 – Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful. And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for our message, so that we may proclaim the mystery of Christ, for which I am in chains. Pray that I may proclaim it clearly, as I should. Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.
Imagine you have been unjustly imprisoned. False accusations have been made against you. You have had no other choice but to appeal to a higher court in the land, so you await your trial, imprisoned indefinitely. What would be on your mind now? What would you be praying about now? Would earnest prayers be rising from your heart to God’s throne for your situation? Would you plead with God that he would see fit to free you? Would you pray that the legal system would work smoothly and justly? Wouldn’t you be praying hard about your situation?
A year passes. No progress has been made in your upcoming hearing. What are your thoughts? Wouldn’t your prayers rise up to God even more earnestly about your situation?

Two years pass. Won’t your prayers be directly to God even more earnestly about your situation? How about after three years? Four years?

Such was the plight of the Apostle Paul. He was under arrest for four years before significant progress was made in his case, two years in Palestine and then two years under house arrest in Rome. What was on his mind? His thoughts in our reading do not drift to his own condition at the time. They don’t plead with God for his quick release. They are not inwardly directed at all, although we would not fault Paul for such prayers. In our reading today, Paul prays for outreach to people who are not believers in Christ! As he writes to the church in Asia Minor in Colosse, he thinks about their neighbors.

As we continue our sermon series called “Love Takes Time,” which our Wisconsin Synod churches are following, we focus on the fact that our Christian love compels us to “Take Time for Our Neighbors!” Using the words of Paul to the Colossians in the New Testament, let us learn this lesson and see:
1. This will involve your earnest prayers
2. This will involve your own actions
1 – Our reading begins: “Devote yourselves to prayer, being watchful and thankful. And pray for us, too, that God may open a door for our message, so that we may proclaim the mystery of Christ, for which I am in chains. Pray that I may proclaim it clearly, as I should.”

If you would like to read the full context of these words that Paul wrote to the Colossian church, you would need to read Acts 21-28. Paul had come to Jerusalem, a very dangerous place for him to be due to the hostility of the Jewish leaders. He was accused unjustly of bringing a Gentile into the Temple area and an uproar arose, instigated by the Jewish leaders. Paul was arrested by the Roman governor, who held him for two years. Paul then decided to appeal to a trial before Caesar himself, a right he held as a Roman citizen. After a harrowing voyage to Rome, Paul ended up being held under house arrest for two years, awaiting his trial. It was under these circumstances that Paul writes the words of our text in a letter he sent to the church at Colosse in Asia Minor.

As we said before, his words amazingly instruct them to think about their neighbors, their fellow men around them who did not know or believe in Jesus as their Savior yet. Paul tells them to “Take Time for Their Neighbor!”

Paul’s words inform them that this will take their prayers. Paul tells them to “devote themselves to prayer,” literally the word for power and strength: “Be strong in prayer.” Paul tells them to be “watchful” in prayer, much like Jesus’ words to “watch and pray.” Paul tells them to have “thanksgiving” as they pray. Amazing words from an unjustly imprisoned man!

Paul tells them they are to pray for two things as they think about their neighbor. First, they were to pray that God would give Paul an open door. The picture, of course, is that God would open up avenues through which people around Paul could hear the message of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world, so that they could believe in him as their own Savior.

Was it really necessary for the Colossians to pray about that? Aren’t these doors always open? Doesn’t God want all people to hear and believe the message of Jesus Christ, who died for the sin of the world?

It was necessary for the Colossians to pray for this for a few reasons:
God dictates the opportunities to share the message of Christ. You might recall that on his second missionary trip, Paul wanted to travel north of Asia Minor into an area called Bithynia. In Acts 16 it says that “the spirit of Jesus would not allow them” to go in that direction! God’s will eventually became clear that he wanted them to travel west to Greece with the message of the gospel to cities like Corinth, Thessalonica, and Philippi. God dictates the doors that open!
God alone can convert hearts to believe this message. Many of you no doubt remember the memory verse “No one can say, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ except by the Holy Spirit.” Man can witness about the message, but only God can open doors in the heart to believe.

3. Paul currently had limited open doors. Under house arrest, his work of spreading the gospel had not been as free as in years past.

Prayers to God that he would open doors for Paul and the gospel were very fitting!

Paul also tells them to pray that God would help him to “proclaim it clearly, as he should.” Paul did have guards that were around him. Paul was allowed visitors while he was under house arrest. Paul was also going to have the chance to speak for himself in the future when his case was called. He undoubtedly felt the pressure of searching for the right words to speak. Perhaps he might even feel a temptation to soften the message of Christ and his mission as he looked ahead to what he would say. He prayed that God would wing his words.

Let’s pause here to apply this first lesson that Paul taught the Colossians to our own lives. As you consider the theme “Take Time for Your Neighbors,” Paul instructs you that this begins with prayer. “No objections!” you say. “I stand ready to pray for the advancement of the gospel.”

You do? When was the last time you prayed for your own pastor’s Sunday message that he was preparing? When a pastor sits down a week or more ahead of time to begin study and contemplation for a Sunday message, he does it with much fear and trembling. It is the biggest item on his weekly “to do” list. Have you prayed on a Tuesday or Wednesday that God would bless your pastor as he wrestles with the law and gospel he’s been given for that week? The People’s Bible commentary on these verses make an interesting point that many church members might be ready to criticize and critique something with their pastor rather than be ready first to offer God their prayers for him. Your two pastors welcome your prayers to God’s throne for their sermon messages!

Have you prayed for our Holy Trinity Lutheran School students and teachers lately? Every school day religious instruction is being given via Catechism classes, Bible history, or hymnology. Certainly you have been praying about this! Have you prayed for your called teachers to teach clearly and that God blesses their instruction? Have you prayed for the Evergreen Lutheran High School faculty that you support? Have you prayed for our home and world missionaries around the globe who carry the gospel? Surely you have! You have no objections to praying for the advancement of the gospel, right?

The People’s Bible commentary has an interesting thought along these lines. The writer says, “Any number of missionaries have told us that they are convinced that it is only through the prayers of the Christians ‘back home’ that they are blessed with the special strength they need to fulfill their often difficult and dangerous calling. Some of the most cherished encouragement I have ever received in my personal ministry came from a kind and concerned ‘matriarch’ of a large family in my congregation who, before the Lord took her to her eternal home, assured me frequently, ‘Pastor, our family is praying for you.’ ”

Also, have you been praying for our church’s outreach to our own community neighbors? Our Christmas campaign? Our school contacts? Our own members’ words of gospel that they share?

When we realize we have fallen short in our prayers, God lead us to repent! May we thank God that he has sent that gospel message of Christ crucified for us first, to heal our sin-sick soul. Then may we resolve to take time. Take time to pray for the advancement of that gospel through our pastors and called workers and through our congregation!

2– Paul gives us one other way that we can take time for our neighbor in these verses. He writes, “Be wise in the way you act toward outsiders; make the most of every opportunity. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone.” Time spent is not only going to involve the Colossians’ prayers. It will also involve their actions.

To set the stage for Paul’s words, what exactly were outsiders’ thoughts toward Christians in the Roman Empire? Normally, they were not favorable. Oftentimes Christians were called “atheists” by unbelievers. They were called this because they worshiped an unseen God. They were also labeled as “unpatriotic.” After all, they would not burn incense in worship of the emperor. Christians often did not have a good reputation.

What did Paul encourage them to do, to attempt to win outsiders over for Christ? First, he told them to let their conversation be seasoned with salt. Speak with salt! What did Paul mean? There’s a great difference between food that has salt and food that does not have salt. If you enjoy popcorn, I don’t imagine many of you like your popcorn without a stich (sic) of salt. In fact, it makes it quite unpalatable. I don’t imagine many here would like their eggs without any type of seasoning on them, salt or otherwise. Seasoning can make all the difference in dishes. That’s why a shaker is available right on the counter or the table in many of your kitchens. Paul says that their speech was to have seasoning. It was to be pleasing, gracious, courteous, kind, and palatable. It happened because they were to be “wise” in the way they spoke and acted toward outsiders. James 3 speaks about such Christian wisdom: “The wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere.”

The opposite type of speech would be worldly speech characterized by foulness, impatience, and anger. It would be speech that broke the 2nd Commandment in the use of God’s name and the 8th Commandment in the way words would hurt their neighbor.

Their example in “seasoned” speech was to be Christ himself. Christ represented his heavenly Father perfectly. Christ spoke in love. Yes, Christ spoke clearly and honestly when it came to calling sin a sin, but when he was persecuted and put on trial he did not lash out in sin and anger. The Colossians “seasoned,” pleasant speech would be a good reflection of their Savior and their heavenly Father.

The second directive Paul gives is that they are to “make the most of every opportunity.” This is an interesting Greek phrase in the original language. Literally, Paul uses the word for “buy.” He says that they are to “buy up” time. In our idioms we might say “snap up” the time. Some English translations say “redeem the time.”

Do you like to snap up deals? Have you ever been at the store when there’s a tremendous buy on a certain item and you get ten or twenty of them? You fill your cart because the time is right; do it now! Don’t wait around, for who knows when the deal will be over? That’s how Paul told them to look at their witnessing opportunities toward their neighbor. Make the most of time. Don’t delay! They didn’t know when they’d have another opportunity to speak about the Savior and they didn’t know when the Lord would return to judge the world. Witnessing was an urgent matter!

Does this describe you? Do you think this way when you think about your neighbor and others around you in daily life? Do you have this same concern for your neighbor’s salvation?

How do you view your neighbors to begin with? Answers among you all would vary:
Perhaps your neighbor is the one you just hope to tolerate
Or the one who makes life inconvenient for my family
Or your rival!
Or the one who is disruptive, especially on Friday and Saturday nights
Or is one to avoid
Or are “those slobby people”
Or one you have a “wave relationship” with – They’re the one you wave to (albeit courteously) when they’re in the driveway at the same time, and that’s all the deeper your relationship gets.

Or worse yet, you might not even know who they are.

How would Christ view the people in your neighborhood? We know from Scripture how he viewed people. He looked at the crowds once and had pity on them as “sheep without a shepherd,” meaning that he knew they were religiously lost and misled. He saw the rich young man who loved his riches and “loved him.” He went and talked with a woman at a well who was living in sin with her boyfriend, and as John 4 says, “he had to go through Samaria.” He needed to have that encounter. He hung out with “sinners” and outcasts in society because the sick needed a doctor. That’s how Jesus views your neighbors.

Do you view them in this way? Or do you need to pray, “Jesus, help me see people as you do”? The proof of our concern for them would be in how we have spiritually looked out for our neighbors in the past. How many neighbors did you bring to church as a visitor in the last year? How many neighbors by your home have you mentioned Christ to? Where does a person start?

When we wonder, we need to go back to Paul’s words in Colossians. First, let your conversation be seasoned with salt. Take time to talk to those around you in the neighborhood where God has put you. Don’t let them think for a minute that you are the crabby person down the block, or that you are always too busy or disinterested. Worse yet, would they wonder who you are?

We also make the most of the opportunities we have, snapping up the time. Time is wasting! The Lord’s return is even nearer. How much time do you have? How long will you wait? Go onto their turf in a conversation. Ask them about their life to start a conversation. And look for opportunities to build a bridge to a conversation about Jesus. Your concern and love for them will lead you to think about their eternal wellbeing!

As we close our look at taking time for our neighbors, perhaps you’ll need a time readjustment in your life. Maybe you’ll have to consciously take some time to get to know those around your home. Perhaps you’ll need to set some goals to keep you thinking about it and on task. If so, it will be time well spent for the kingdom of God.

May we learn from Paul’s words today. May we take time for our neighbor:
This will involve your earnest prayers. And this will involve your own actions.
God help us to take time for others, so we can tell them what he took time to do for them! Amen.

Tuesday, December 7, 2010

footstepsofphoebe: First Deaconess-in-Training in WELS Sister Church

I am a lion. I am a lion. I am a lion.



footstepsofphoebe: First Deaconess-in-Training in WELS Sister Church



SUNDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2010

First Deaconess-in-Training in WELS Sister Church
Pieter Reid, a member of the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS), serves as "a pastoral friendly counselor" to the national Indonesian church known as Gereja Lutheran Indonesia (GLI). According to Reid's Oct. 7, 2010 blog on missions in Indonesia, GLI is making history by training its very first deaconess.

Reid explained, "One goal of the sister church of WELS in Indonesia is to get the women of GLI active in serving the Lord and serving each other. For this to happen and continue, there needs to be a GLI woman who can be trained to assume this leadership role. ...

"Ibu Heni, one of the pastor’s wives, started attending the GLI seminary two years ago. She didn’t do it to become a pastor, but wanted to grow spiritually. Ibu Heni is taking all of the courses required of the seminary students. Besides being very gifted and faithfully applying herself, she understands the teachings of the Bible, has leadership ability, and the heart of a servant. Ibu Heni has the gifts to become a deaconess and help all the women of GLI to serve the Lord and serve others.

"The leaders of GLI were approached and asked if Ibu Heni could be designated as a Deaconess-in-training. She will continue taking all the seminary courses for the next two years. She will have all the doctrine courses, counseling courses, courses on family life, and all the other courses a pastor will have taken. Work has begun to train and prepare Ibu Heni to become a Deaconess who will oversee the entire ministry of women within GLI and prepare these women to reach out to those who do not yet have Jesus as their Savior. What a blessing a Deaconess will be to this church body!”

It will be interesting to watch this new development, and to note whether the next stage of training - to prepare the women of Indonesia to "reach out to those who do not yet have Jesus as their Savior" - will indeed produce a second generation of deaconesses for this church body.

We wish them every blessing with this endeavor!

Breaking News -
India Poised to Grow Exponentially -
Larry Oh! Declined the Call

Notice the lack of doctrinal discipline on display in the Church and Change bulletin and the Martin Luther (sic) faculty list.


"Blessed Father Reverend Beloved Pastor Doctor Professor Lawrence Olson (DMin, Fuller Seminary)declined the call to serve as assistant field coordinator in India."

Tuesday, November 30, 2010

Embarrassing Walther


bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Just Say No To the Abusive Cult Called WELS":

The Synodical Conference Lutherans have been a rough crowd since the start. It might have something to do with its heavily Prussian origins. When you read the history about the 19th C UOJ and election controversies, the Eastern Lutherans and the Iowa Synod Lutherans complained that the Midwest Lutherans were downright ornery and un-Christian in argumentation and how they treated dissenters and opponents. That's how one group of pastors who didn't believe in UOJ could call themselves the anti-Missouri Brotherhood, and no one thought the "anti-" part was the least bit uncalled for.

Narrow-minded Lutheran has left a new comment on your post "Just Say No To the Abusive Cult Called WELS":

I used to think that LCMS folks were defensive when criticizing their papacy, but I learned last weekend that one really has a tiger by the tail when having the audacity to suggest that WELS may not be the only holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.

When this person started in about how liberal the LCMS is versus the "conservative" WELS, I questioned why WELS sends their clergy to Fuller. Of course, the 8th Commandment is the first thing to come up, as I was told that I needed to check my sources and had no idea what I was talking about. "Our guys only go to WELS sems," I was told in that tone of rebuke. Funny how the internet is okay for being critical of everyone but WELS.

The next subject I brought up was Thrivent, and, of course, the reply was, "Our parish has nothing to do with them." After encouraging this person to do some research, I hope this person does so and sees that the LCMS that they broke fellowship with due to its ecumenism supports their beloved Jeske.

As usual, it went to the CW issue, which this WELS person saw no big problem with (adiaphora is the "catch-all," you know). I ended the conversation with problems arising when church focuses on us and not on Christ. Amazingly, I got the last word.

This goes for Missouri and WELS: When Walther is elevated above Luther and regarded as inerrant, your problems are soon to follow, the first being the descent into pietism.

rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Just Say No To the Abusive Cult Called WELS":

When someone is told to write a letter, and then they are ignored, is just plain rude. These bad boys need to learn some manners.

rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Just Say No To the Abusive Cult Called WELS":

"That is because WELS pastors cannot admit ever being wrong."

In my many conversations with WELS laity over the years, this may bother them more than anything else. There is much better treatment of peers in the secular workplace. Although there was no mention of Matthew chapter 18 in these exchanges, the 8 and 18 switch is losing its sting. In fact, the end is rather tattered and worn from overuse.

Sunday, November 28, 2010

Kerwin Steffen

I'm a busy little devil,
and I only want to help."


From Paladin:
I was looking at Ichabod today and KW Steffen jumped off the page to me from a few weeks ago. Kerwin Steffen is a member (long standing) of the Chapel in Madison and is a key player in its identity change. He was one of the groomed ones who has become a key groomer in the Pietistic movement that has swept the Chapel. He was council president for years, and maybe still is.

It took a while to see it, but it came to fruition.

KW facilitated the changes - the typical ABC - things that must change, things that can't change, things that don't matter etc.

The cottage meetings were simply the best. Various point women and men got a list of Chapel names and would visit them and do a Bible Study verse or two at your house. This was done to be a way of opening up conversation and concerns about the new chapel building plan and eventual ministry changes. The new bigger, better chapel is only a shadow of itself, which at one point was a pretty good institution.

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He has been writing, speaking, consulting, and presenting workshops on organizational effectiveness, leadership development, and personal mastery for more than twenty-five years.

Kerwin has served as a teacher, a broadcaster, a professional musician, a member of the top-management team of a regional hospital and clinic and, for more than a decade, as a professional consultant.

In 1994, he established his own firm, K W Steffen Associates. The Spirit Edge™Team Technology, the team building system he developed, has helped groups in the U.S. and abroad to effectively manage and enhance their Shared Spirit Systems and lay an enduring foundation for breakthrough results.

Kerwin has provided performance consulting and facilitated learning for a broad cross-section of businesses, nonprofits, and community-based groups—from organizations involved in global manufacturing, financial services, health care, tourism, and downtown development to others dedicated to secondary and post-secondary education, animal welfare, wildlife management, civic journalism, volunteer service, race relations, and ministry to college students.

He has also designed and facilitated wide-ranging public participation processes for civic groups in large and small cities throughout the Midwest, as well as in post-Katrina New Orleans.

Leadership materials that he developed have been used by hundreds of organizations, including ITT Sheraton, Holiday Inn Worldwide, Aid Association for Lutherans (now Thrivent), AT&T School of Business, Blue Cross-Blue Shield, Boise Cascade, Citicorp, CIBA Corporation, the U.S. Defense Contract Management Commission, Delco Electronics, Quill Corporation, Discover Card Services, Federal Express, and the Weather Channel.

Kerwin serves on the board of directors of the Bank of New Glarus and has served on the boards of not-for-profit organizations as well.

A sought-after public speaker, Kerwin calls on his years of management experience, his passion for high-performing groups, his insight into human dynamics, and his spirited musicianship to energize his audiences.

He and his wife, Marilee, have lived in New Glarus, Wisconsin, for more than forty-five years. They have two married children and two grandchildren.

K W Steffen Associates • PO Box 672 • New Glarus, WI 53574
Phone: 608-527-5896 • E-Mail: kws@kwsteffen.com

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GJ - I wrote to Paladin that Steffen's website is gone, vanished. I linked it only a short time ago. Photos from Google? Cannot find any.

Ichabod effect? Or is the growtivational speaker so short of cash that he cannot pay his GoDaddy.com renewal fee?

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "Kerwin Steffen":

"Leadership materials that he developed have been used by hundreds of organizations, including.......
Delco Electronics......."

I worked almost 29 years for Delco Electronics. Now called Delphi, they filed for bankruptcy five years ago and are still in it. You got to love it when those business models are ported into the ministry.

What did the churches ever do before the non-stop parade of stewardship, evangelism and leadership workshops?

The correct answer is that they trusted that the Holy Spirit would work through the efficacious Word.

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GJ - There is an incestuous relationship between the Media Mavens like Jeske and the business motivational speakers. They speak the same psycho-babble New Age lingo and cannot get enough of it. They hold seminars where they tell each other and the audience that they will all be soaring into the stratosphere with the newest insights.

One of the most famous is a former Methodist minister who leaks puddles of snake oil wherever he goes. His voice oozes condescension. Fortunately I got to hear him for free, so the pain was less onerous.

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bruce-church (https://bruce-church.myopenid.com/) has left a new comment on your post "Kerwin Steffen":

I toured the Madison Chapel-Student Center. It cost the synod $4 million to build it in 2006. I assume the synod pays to run it. Here's a virtual tour:

http://www.wlchapel.org/about-us/virtual-tour/

With its underground parking garage under the chapel (see where the bollards are to keep your car from hitting the tower) and computerized video security system, it reminds me of the Bat Cave. Rev. Trapp would be Bat Man.

They promote church growth but they have an extravagant business model that most congregations can't afford. It's supposed to be missional and keep WELS students in the WELS, but it's real purpose may be to groom the next generation of WELS leaders into church growthism. After worshiping there, they'll want a big screen and projector in church.

By the way, the chapel is a surprisingly small part of the complex. It should be called the Wisconsin Lutheran Student Center with chapel annex. I'm sure it's easier to raise money by calling it Wisconsin Lutheran Chapel & Student Center, though.

When industry or the state do big projects, they always have to do an environmental impact study. I think the synod ought to do impact studies for its projects. For example, it should ask, "If the finite number of donors with their finite number of dollars is tapped to build and fund a student center in Madison, how much will the tuition rise at synodical schools compared to if we just buy a defunct church building and forget the student center?" Or, how much will the synod debt rise if we keep Mequon separate from MLC? Or not train our teachers at WLC, and our pastors back at Watertown?

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GJ - Doesn't Willow Creek run right past the front door? I heard the staff was swept away in the Willow Creek flood.

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Guess Who Is Working with the New Jeske-Patterson Synod?
Look at the Church Links And Find Out Below




GJ - Good summaries:

Av Tattenai has left a new comment on your post "Guess Who Is Working with the New Jeske-Patterson ...":

It should be astonishing that an allegedly Lutheran congregation should approvingly link to a website which teaches, "We believe in the ordinances of believer’s water baptism by immersion as a testimony to Christ and identification with Him, and the Lord’s Supper as a remembrance of Christ’s death and shed blood." In view of their apparent toleration of such contradictions of the Small Catechism, how does the WELS imagine they are any different from the ELCA?

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bored has left a new comment on your post "Guess Who Is Working with the New Jeske-Patterson ...":

Check out these WELS Women's services:

http://www.welswomen.net/site/cpage.asp?cpage_id=180006193&sec_id=180002756

I don't suppose you or your readers will enjoy reading these 'Church Services for women', but it is probably important to be aware of what is available on the official WELS site.

I read through a few of these "services" and was not surprised to see the expected Christmas hymns and various barely-liturgical orders of service. The sermons, or rather, narrative expositions, are similar to the saccharine fluff you might find in Reader's Digest, many times offering secular moral of "Christmas is more than just gifts and materialism...there is something else!!" The messages of these "services" are very nearly just as applicable to Hottentots and Hindoos as they are to Lutherans.

When these "Womans' Services" do mention The Christ, they do it like this:

" Narrator: Great bargains are exciting and good news from beloved family and friends can be a delight. But as good as the sales are this week, next week Kohl’s will announce the biggest sale of the season. As perfect as the perfect gift is, it will likely be lost, broken or worn out soon; and nothing can compare to the perfect gift of a Savior. ' (excerpt from Advent by Candlelight, written by Naomi Schmidt)

Is anyone else insulted? If you're not, you ought to be. I'm insulted firstly because they insult Jesus Christ by comparing him to a bargain (but a better bargain!!). By describing Jesus as the superlative of the capitalist shopper's notion of "a good deal" they trod on his glory and his sacrifice. I'm secondly insulted because the writers' condescension is blatant. Do they suppose that the average WELS woman is so ignorant and petty that she needs to be reminded that Christ's Universal Atonement and individual Justification by Faith is better than the Aaron Rodger's Jersey she bought for her husband? Naomi, thanks so much for the reminder. I'm going to write that down so I don't forget. Naomi has a special perspicuity that will go down in song, I'm sure.

I'm sorry if I get a little snide when angry, but this stuff borders on the ludicrous.

The term "worship service" or "The Divine Service" actually has meaning beyond an arbitrary selection of words. The etymology of the word 'service' from M-W.com: "Middle English, from Anglo-French servise, from Latin servitium condition of a slave, body of slaves, from servus slave. "

So if we talk about a worship service, it's proper to ask who is acting as a slave? Who is serving whom? Ask around and you'll get different answers, but the truth is that in The Divine Service, God is acting as servant, serving grace to the Elect through Word and Sacrament. It is so humbling beyond words that the Omnipotent God would serve his creations that perhaps the content and form of our Worship Services should reflect that juxtaposition. In any event, I think it's safe to say that it's flippant and foolish to craft a worship service devoid of Word and Sacrament. God has chosen The Means of Grace for a reason. It's hubris and unChristian to hold a service with those Means.

I, for one, will write the Synodical leaders concerning these so-called Services, asking them to edit them to include the Means of Grace. I encourage everyone to pull out their keyboards and do the same.

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John has left a new comment on your post "Guess Who Is Working with the New Jeske-Patterson ...":

I couldn't decide whether to reach for a tissue or a barf bag when reading what this supposedly Lutheran pastor and congregation recommend to readers of their site.

Their recommendation of churches that deny the efficacy of the Means of Grace is, in fact a statement of this pastor and congregation regarding the efficacy of the Means of Grace.

Accordingly, wouldn't anyone partnering with this pastor and congregation also be denying the efficacy of the Means of Grace?

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Monday, September 6, 2010

My Interpretation of Recent Events



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It has come to the point where I wonder if the WELS is now the theological equivalent of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four. An analogy could not be drawn in every situation. However, some of the key concepts from the novel have similarities which are quite eerie.

Examples would include but are not limited to doublethink, thoughtcrime, Newspeak, and the Memory hole. What is most disturbing is the "Emmanuel Goldstein treatment" that has been given to Dr. Jackson on more than one occasion. This is otherwise known as the "two minutes of hate". Also, in a strange play of words, there are the various ministries in Oceania. In Orwell's country of origin, Great Britain, a ministry is a government agency. Bloated synod-ocracies have all these "ministies" which have the opposite effect of their title, just as in 1984. [GJ - illuminating typo - a mini-sty? I like it.]

For those who try to deal honestly and forthrightly with others in the real world, it is often difficult to change gears and operate the WELS way. What is most distressing is the lack of results, satisfaction and closure when trying to address their concerns. Many have been the recipients of the cockroach letter.

It appears as though all of these objectionable CG methods come with a built in snare when "lutheranized" the WELS way. Those who raise a stink are darned if you do and darned if you don't. The resisters to CG rot are run through a meat grinder of dead end activities that are designed to absorb your resources of time and energy. This list has been posted here several times. If one wisely chooses to not engage the apostates, then they are demonized for not speaking up. Recently, I let several key individuals know why I was leaving my former congregation. That should have been enough. Even with that, my position was misrepresented in the letter of transfer that was sent to my present congregation. If anyone else wanted a better explanation, they could have contacted me. I would have gladly gone through my laundry list of concerns. Not one elder or any other concerned member took it upon themselves to get the story straight from the horse's mouth.

Fear is control and many WELS laity are afraid of the truth.

I have been given the silent treatment. As Luther told George Major - "it is by your silence and your cloaking that you bring suspicion upon yourself".

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rlschultz has left a new comment on your post "My Interpretation of Recent Events":

The calling process in the WELS is a sick joke at best, but more closely resembles a tyrannical power play. Sometimes, it is the lack of receiving a call which is also used to club some into submission or to make a point with the alleged unruly.
That point is be careful whose toes you step on. My aunt told me about a young pastor who languished without a call while there were many vacancies. The bishop (DP) would give no reason why this candidate did not have his name placed on any call lists. My aunt concurred that it is a divine call with a lot of human intervention.

It must have been genetic. This young pastor's father was also abused by the calling process. His father was the pastor who confirmed me. He was not well liked by some but was very Confessional.

Many years ago I asked a young LES teacher if they taught anything about the doctrine of the divine call at Dumb Man's Last Chance. She gave me a confused look. It seemed like such a logical inconsistency for called workers to be subjected to this process but not know anything about the theology behind it. Then again, maybe there is no theology behind it with the manner in which it is being implemented.

You have to give these bishops credit for being innovative in the way that they handle dissenters. You give them credit like you would give a scheming criminal credit for their effort in trying to pull off the perfect crime, but eventually get caught by overlooking some details.

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GJ - WELS is so abusive that the leaders use calls to stick the knife in. For example, one pastor dared to question Church Growth, rather mildly, only at some meetings. He got a Calumet call. Friends phoned him and said, "What on earth did you do wrong?" The point of such calls is to humiliate the pastor. Calls are also used to say, "We approve of this adulterer."

I was recently told by one DP, "We are giving calls to those guys to break up that group." That is gutless discipline in WELS. No one took the calls, except for Witte, who was promoted for being a Church and Money Changer pioneer. Doubtless they knew, if the calls even appeared, that it was a sham, a fraud, another smokescreen to keep the gullible peaceful.

This is my intuition, taken completely from my fertile mind, and not based on any inside knowledge, memo, intercepted email, or pillow talk from some Shrinker's girlfriend:

The Church and Change group, which is used to running the show and being paid lavishly for it, sat down with SP Schroeder and had a Come To Jesus meeting.

This may have happened in one dramatic moment or dribbled out over a period of time, with various laity taking part in their own ways.

The message was, "We will continue and you will keep your hands off. Otherwise, we will walk with several millions of dollars of donations per year. And you can count on a bloody civil war going on for years, because you are being divisive."

Mark Jeske has been building his own synod for years. He promotes a youth meeting as synodical. His Board of Warbucks includes people across the synod, sending shivers of fear down the alleged spines of all the DPs. One Daddy Warbucks gave $500,000 to Willowcreek's Little College in Milwaukee (WELS for donation purposes only - the WELS Valpo).

If Kieschnick had been re-elected, Jeske's implied threat was taking the whole bunch out and joining the LCMS. He got the Missouri Synod RSO status (a goldmine) when LCMS ministers are denied it. That is an interesting parallel to Stolzenburg getting a Marvin Schwan grant even though he was kicked out of Missouri and kept out of WELS.

Kieschnick was defeated by his corpse-cold ambition, but Jeske's ambitions remain. He can easily take the group out on its own or affiliate with one of many new Lutheran groups. I doubt that anything will happen, because congregations care more about Holy Mother Synod than about sound doctrine. A state of Limbo is perfect, and that can continue for years, as it has already.

The Church and Money Changers joined the Reformed New Agers decades ago. They bragged about it in TELL, promoted one another into Love Shack sinecures, took over various entities and renamed them to show their conquests, routed out their opponents, and elevated their scrofulous pals to college and seminary positions, not to mention First VP of the synod. In one episode after another, Shrinkers have triumphed in new jobs, untouched by the economic devastation they visited upon confessional Lutherans.

The passive clergy wag their tails every time a Shrinker gets near, in hopes of improving their sorry lot. There is no growling at the wolves, for it is more enjoyable to bite than to be bitten, to run with the pack than be driven off.