Showing posts with label Mark Bartling. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mark Bartling. Show all posts

Friday, November 16, 2012

Mark Bartling's False Doctrine Is Not Lutheran and Not Christian,
But It Is Halle Pietistic Rationalism



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Pastor Mark Bartling writes, “This clear teaching that God has declared all people righteous, Objective Justification (WELS catechism, question 253) Rydecki refuses to accept and teach. Thus he is rightly to be removed from the ministry of the WELS!”

I agree with Pastor Bickel, Martin Luther would not hold back his disgust or disdain for how the Lutheran synods are waging war against Christ and His Church. It’s important to see that those who have chosen synod to be lord and master have in the same moment rejected Christ, the faith of the Holy Spirit (identifying it as a synergistic work) and God the Father. But by the grace and mercy of God working contrition and faith in Christ alone (as opposed to the object of the false gospel of UOJ’s faith: the forgiveness of sins imputed while rejecting Christ) these apostate men and women will continue to war against Christ’s Church while thinking they are doing God a favor.

Let’s test Pastor Mark Bartling’s teaching that God has declared all people righteous.

Scripture
Romans 10:4, "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."
Romans 4:5, "But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness." (BM – since the Faith of the Holy Spirit is counted for righteousness – how then is unfaith counted for righteousness or even Christ counted for righteousness to the unbeliever when he has not obtained Christ as Mediator – Scripture and the Confessions declare Christ is only received as Mediator through faith)

Romans 5:17, "For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ." (BM - Bartling and the false gospel of UOJ teach Universalism regardless of their denials. Scripture teaches that those who have received the grace of God and the gift of righteousness are saved eternally – “shall reign in life”. This is the same error they teach by abusing Romans 5:18)

Romans 10:3, "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God."

The Christian Book of Concord
Apology to the Augsburg
48] "The adversaries feign that faith is only a knowledge of the history, and therefore teach that it can coexist with mortal sin. Hence they say nothing concerning faith, by which Paul so frequently says that men are justified, because those who are accounted righteous before God do not live in mortal sin."

112] "But the remission of sins is received by faith alone, and, indeed, by faith properly so called, because the promise cannot be received except by faith. But faith, properly so called, is that which assents to the promise [is when my heart, and the Holy Ghost in the heart, says: The promise of God is true and certain]. Of this faith Scripture speaks. And because it receives the remission of sins, and reconciles us to God, by this faith we are [like Abraham] accounted righteous for Christ's sake before we love and do the works of the Law, although love necessarily follows. Nor, indeed, is this faith an idle knowledge, neither can it coexist with mortal sin, but it is a work of the Holy Ghost, whereby we are freed from death, and terrified minds are encouraged and quickened. And because this faith alone receives the remission of sins, and renders us acceptable to God, and brings the Holy Ghost, it could be more correctly called _gratia gratum faciens_, grace rendering one pleasing to God, than an effect following, namely, love."
http://www.bookofconcord.org/defense_4_justification.php
(BM – reconciliation to God is only by the faith of the Holy Spirit. Note too that it is that same faith by which men are acceptable to God – not before and without faith as the false gospel of UOJ teaches and the apostate clergy such as Pastor Mark Bartling and DP Jon Buchholz teach)

I will leave apostate Pastor Bartling and the anti-Christian UOJ hoard with Martin Luther’s condemnation:

Luther’s statements from his Galatians Commentary concerning the Faith of the Holy Spirit:
12. As before said, they regard faith of slight importance; for they do not understand that it is our sole justifier. To accept as true the record of Christ--this they call faith. The devils have the same sort of faith, but it does not make them godly. Such belief is not Christian faith; no, it is rather deception.

15. ...You see how they make faith of no value to themselves, and so must regard as heresy all doctrine based upon it. Thus they do away with the whole Gospel. These are they who deny the Christian faith and exterminate it from the world. Paul prophesied concerning them when he said (1 Tim 4, 1): "In later times some shall fall away from the faith." The voice of faith is now silenced all over the world. Indeed, faith is condemned and banished as the worst heresy, and all who teach and endorse it are condemned with it. The Pope, the bishops, charitable institutions, cloisters, high schools, unanimously opposed it for nearly four hundred years, and simply drove the world violently into hell. Their conduct is the real persecution by Antichrist, in the last times.

22. Now, the Cain-like saints have not, as they themselves confess, the Christian faith which would assure them of being the children of God.

29. You cannot extricate yourself from unbelief, nor can the Law do it for you. All your works in intended fulfilment of the Law must remain works of the Law and powerless to justify in the sight of God, who regards as just only believing children.

37. Note, Paul everywhere teaches justification, not by works, but solely by faith; and not as a process, but instantaneous. The testament includes in itself everything--justification, salvation, the inheritance and great blessing. Through faith it is instantaneously enjoyed, not in part, but all. Truly is it plain, then, that faith alone affords such blessings of God, justification and salvation-- immediately and not in process as must be the case with works

74. But what is the process whereby Christ gives us such a spirit and redeems us from under the Law? The work is effected solely by faith. He who believes that Christ came to redeem us, and that he has accomplished it, is really redeemed. As he believes, so is it with him. Faith carries with it the child-making spirit. The apostle here explains by saying that Christ has redeemed us from under the Law that we might receive the adoption of sons. As before stated, all must be effected through faith. Now we have discussed the five points of the verse.

http://www.trinitylutheranms.org/MartinLuther/MLSermons/Galatians4_1_7.html





Thursday, October 25, 2012

Christian News: The current debate in the WELS concerning universal, objective Justification

Christian News: The current debate in the WELS concerning universal, objective Justification:


THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2012


The current debate in the WELS concerning universal, objective Justification




THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2012

The current debate in the WELS concerning universal, objective Justification


Christian News, October 29, 2012, Vol. 50, No. 42

The conference of presidents, on the recent call list, Oct. 2012, reports that Paul Rydecki has been suspended from ministry of the WELS. No further information is given, and one is left to wonder what did he do????

On the Intrepid Lutherans web page there appeared the announcement that one of its contributors, Rev. Paul Rydecki, has been suspended from the WELS. Following articles and an explanation from Rydecki explained that the reason was because of Rydecki’s views concerning objective, universal, justification. He stated and defended his position in a paper given last June in Oshkosh, “Are You A Dresden Lutheran?” A copy of the DP letter of suspension to Rydecki was also posted.

One wonders why more information concerning suspensions for doctrinal reasons cannot be given. It seems that in order to understand what is going on in the Synod one must go to unofficial sources.

What Paul Rydecki (also the egocentric synergist Greg Jackson) is teaching on justification is nothing new to the Lutheran Church and something which Confessional Lutherans have always rejected.

The position that Rydecki is promoting has its origin back in Melanchthon’s teachings on the three causes of conversion — the Holy Spirit, the Word of God, and the will of man. In the discussions in the 50s between the old American Lutheran Church and the LCMS concerning justification, the ALC wanted to teach that God had secured and provided salvation for all people. This is objective or universal redemption, not objective justification. The LCMS along with the WELS insisted on the words, that God has not only secured and provided salvation for all, but that God has declared the whole world righteous in Christ Jesus. This they called objective Justification. (A term that is preferred over universal justification, which can cause some misunderstandings.) By only saying “secured and provided salvation” the door is open for some cooperation or contributions on the part on man. Good, God has provided it, how do I get it? But by insisting on the term God has DECLARED the whole world righteous, all works or cooperation on man’s part are removed.

The men in the ALC, from the old Ohio Synod, wanted to teach “Erst muss der Mensch glauben, dann wird er gerechtfertigt (first must the man believe, then he becomes justified). This old error taught that first one must believe that Christ died for all, then he will be justified. This puts the cart before the horse, my faith before my justification. Against this old heresy Walther and others maintained the formula – Justificatio non post fidem, sed per fidem (Justification not after faith, but through faith). This is the position of Lutheran Orthodoxy. Today we use the term objective justification to teach this truth. God has declared the whole world righteous in Christ Jesus (God so loved the world, John 3:16; The Lutheran church sings, “Christ thou Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world, have mercy on me.”)

Of course now, the other side, the Holy Spirit working through the means of Grace must now change the hard and disobedient will of man which is dead in sin and an enemy of God. The Holy Spirit moves the will of man to accept and believe this objective justification. This we call subjective justification. The two must go together; — and you can’t have one without the other!!! If one rejects the objective, universal justification, he cannot be saved. He is lost. We do not believe in universalism, everyone is going to heaven.

The Bible connects universal redemption and universal, objective, justification and treats them as the same.For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. Romans 5:5-7. Christ died for all. This Rydecki does not reject. But in the same book, a chapter earlier, Paul writes, But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, Romans 4:4-6

God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation. 2 Corinthians 5:18-20 Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. 19 For as by one man’s disobedience many (i.e., all) were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many (i.e., all) will be made righteous. (Rom 5:18,19)

The Lutheran Confessions, although not using the term objective justification, teach this concept.

But when the Lord Jesus Christ came, He forgave to all people the sin, which no one could avoid. … Christ took away the sin of the whole world, as John testified saying in John 1:29, “Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” Apology, Art IV, Justification, 103 Concordia, page 99

Just as the preaching of repentance is universal, so also the promise of the Gospel is universal, that is, it belongs to all people. Formula of Concord, Art XI, 28, Concordia, p. 606

All have sinned and (all) are justified freely. Smalcald Articles, second part, Art. I,3, Concordia, page 263.

[GJ - He has to add his NNIV "all" to make UOJ show up where it is not - a bit dishonest.

3] Likewise: All have sinned and are justified without merit [freelyand without their own works or meritsby His gracethrough the redemption that is in Christ Jesusin His bloodRom. 3:23f. SA, II, I, 3.]

By way of illustration: A man pays my entire debt, gives me a check, and declares me debt free. But I must believe this, cash the check. It does me no good until I cash it. But I cannot cash it before he declares me debt free. [GJ - Where is this lame analogy in the Bible - II Seymour?]

This clear teaching that God has declared all people righteous, Objective Justification (WELS catechism, question 253) Rydecki refuses to accept and teach. Thus he is rightly to be removed from the ministry of the WELS!

Pastor M.F. Bartling
Onalaska, WI, Oct. 2012

Mark Bartling hails the cowardly DP Buchholz action.
Here he is reading II Seymour to the DP.

'via Blog this'

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GJ - I met Mark Bartling, former LCR pastor, retired as a WELS pastor. He had nothing bad to say about WELS until he was safely retired.

Obviously, Mark has no idea what synergism is. He is as bad as the pastors who equate justification by faith with Calvinism.

WELS has republished J. P. Meyer's Ministers of Christ, where the Mequon professor teaches--for all time--decision theology, like Walther. But what a decision! Walther  and Meyer-

  1. The entire world of unbelievers is forgiven, absolved, and saved.
  2. Now make a decision about this information.


Bartling is abusing Romans 4:25 without naming the passage.

His precious double-justification language is from Halle Pietist Georg Christian Knapp, not the Bible.