Friday, March 28, 2014

Read Quensteadt Slowly - Do Not Move Your Lips -
And Then Write a Reflection Paper on This Citation Proving UOJ.
For Extra Credit - Why Did Dr. Robert Preus Quote This in His Last Book?



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Rev. David R. Boisclair (Drboisclair)
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Posted on Friday, March 28, 2014 - 8:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post


My contribution for the morning: ELDoNA/Jackson's doctrine of Justification is a false and blasphemous doctrine in so far as it denies the biblical doctrine of Objective Justification. It denies the true Gospel.

That is in response to Brett Meyer's final word in his latest post.

[GJ - You and ELCA agree, Dave.]
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Dave Schumacher (Lex)
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Check this out: https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1512-did -christ-literally-bear-our-sins-on-the-cross

Brett, Jackson, and Rydecki must be getting their theology from this Wayne Jackson guy.

[GJ - Put the cap back on the glue, Dave.]
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Dave Schumacher (Lex)
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Brett,
When you confer with Jackson on the Luther quotes I provide see if you guys can't come up with a better argument than "this is a poor choice of words" or "this is unsubstantiated". Jackson knows that Luther wrote this. He doesn't agree with it, but he can't say that. Instead, he has to make up lame arguments. But what Luther wrote, he wrote, and you can be assured that he meant it. He was right too.
Brett, you and Jackson are at odds with the Scriptures, the BOC, and Luther.

[GJ - Dave, Dave. Close the lid now.]
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Joe Krohn (Jester)
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I am going to follow Pr. Boisclair's lead and leave this discussion. If Brett Meyer doesn't get it after all this time, he never will.

@ Brett #186

The passages you quote prior to Romans 4:16 are in reference to the elect and what God chooses to do to them post foreknowledge of them.

Your idea of what Romans 4:16 means is wrong and you do not follow the sound pattern of words. You have been counselled on this repeatedly. "...of faith...by grace." It is always grace first. There can be no faith without grace first. Furthermore, the passage states that the promise is extended to all men and that the reality of the promise is not predicated on faith, but grace. This is Lutheranism 101, Brett Meyer. This my last correspondence regarding Justification with anyone in the Jackson/ELDoNA camp. I really should have been doing other things.

[GJ - Joe, it is not a discussion if the Queasies just rant like people in a locked ward.]