Tuesday, August 5, 2008

No Place To Go



Run for the border, but which border?


Pastor X has left a new comment on your post "Meta-Funny at Bailing Water":

Don't forget to mention those of us who don't want to "go East" or to Rome, but seem to have nowhere else to go. I'm not suggesting that those are viable alternatives, just that many of us exist in a kind of "Where are we supposed to go now?" state.

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GJ - Lutherans seem to be stuck on the present synodical setup. Applying the Word will create the opportunities God has willed. Management by Objective has not worked so well.

No Wonder LCMS Pastors Are Fleeing to Rome




Paul McCain said...

I realize it is essential for the continuing existence of the WELS to continue to put distance between itself and The LCMS, but slander is now (sic) way to do that.

This statement:

[i]A conservative Concordia Seminary professor recently affirmed that no one he knows at the seminary still teaches that all of the Bible is God’s inspired and inerrant word.[/i]

Is absolutely and completely false and slander.

WELS folks need to be extremely careful not to permit the right-wing newspaper Christian News shape their opinions of The LCMS.

It is disgraceful that you would spread such slander and lies on your web site.

August 3, 2008 6:41 PM


Anonymous said...
"I realize it is essential for the continuing existence of the WELS to continue to put distance between itself and The LCMS, but slander is now way to do that."

Wow. A warning against slander which contains slander within it. I've never seen hypocrisy in such a concise form.

August 3, 2008 8:10 PM


Rev. Fr. Spence said...
Rev. McCain - Nice "dig" at the WELS, i.e. we "need" to stay apart from LC-MS to survive. I'm not so sure that's true. Hmmm, let's see, how long did WELS exist while in fellowship with Missouri? I believe it was more than 100 years. Besides being inaccurate and churlish, the comment was beneath you, Rev. McCain. I expected better from you. As for Christian News, I'm sure Herman would be happy to give you space to point out all the instances where he has been wrong. Go for it, or leave him alone.

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GJ - Christian News was absolutely essential in getting Barry elected. That is why McCain worked closely and covertly with Otten to get Barry elected. Christian News was so radioactive then that open courting of Otten would have sent Barry and McCain to the ELS Gulag.

McCain continued to work secretly with Otten once Barry was elected. Previously Bohlmann and Jack Preus used Otten to get themselves elected.

Otten also got Kieschnick elected but never faced the truth about that debacle. Otten accepts Cascione's twisted version of everything and reproduces it in the paper. Thus Casione's attacks against Ft. Wayne, via Christian News, served to divide the conservatives and split that vote.

McCain calls attention to his past by making Christian News his straw man.

McCain Gets Bailing Water to Retract the Truth



"Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz."


I realize it is essential for the continuing existence of the WELS to continue to put distance between itself and The LCMS, but slander is now (sic) way to do that.

McCain, who helped pull the rug out from under Robert Preus, got Bailing Water to withdraw the truth about LCMS seminaries.

So far, there is no retraction of McCain's snide comments about WELS. That is how apostates work. First, they demand absolute proof of any statement made. If the proof is in writing, they immediately change the subject. If anything less than a videotape (certified by the Attorney General) is not available, they demand a retraction. But they are too haughty to withdraw their own insulting comments. McCain is justly famous for those.

Lutherans would be grateful if he spent less time charming the ELCA pastors at the ALPB website and more time warming up to conservatives.

But, as Orson Welles learned, that is the problem with peaking too early in one's career.

Besides, if an editor wants to post snarky comments on Bailing Water, he should do a little proof-reading first. No?