Protestia Double-Downs - Andy Stanley's Mark Jeske Cult - Ski, Tim Glende, & Other Dupes, Just in Time for Reformation

Andy and Ski - their combined Biblical IQ is always lower than room temperature.

Do Christians Have to Believe Jesus Was Miraculously Born a Virgin? Andy Stanley Suggests ‘No’

You’ll recall Stanley previously made waves for encouraging Christians to “unhitch” themselves from portions of Old Testament Scripture, denied the Genesis account, saying God only said it to ‘accommodate to our capacity,’ repeatedly told his congregants, ‘I’m not arguing that the bible is correct,’ told them it doesn’t matter if the bible is true, so long as it’s ‘mostly reliable,’ that they shouldn’t follow Jesus through the Old Testament but only through the gospels, and told his church the ‘foundation of our faith is not the whole bible.’

He also lamented that the ‘entire bible’ has become the church’s ‘authority,’ claimed the bible is not equally inspired or equally important, and even argued that demanding potential converts believe the bible is true and without error is an unnecessary obstacle to them coming to Christ. He also argued that Jesus’ birth and the events surrounding the nativity don’t really matter, thus casting doubt upon his supernatural birth by saying “If somebody can predict their own death and then their own resurrection, I’m not all that concerned about how they got into the world” and “Christianity doesn’t hinge on the truth or even the stories around the Birth of Jesus.”‘

All that doesn’t include the mountain of pro-LGBTQ rhetoric seen in these endnotes.

Take Off Pounds Sensibly is the new theme for Harrison's last term. No Thrivent-lubricated synod leader or professor is capable of teaching Luther's doctrine, and they cannot stop yakking about the gay prelude to ELCA called Seminex.

And then we said, "Inflate the CPH prices because no one is reading the leftovers from ELCA."

Matt the Fatt (LCMS) hosted Scott Barefoot (WELS) so "Who's ELCA now?"

Scott Barefoot (WELS) Martin and Katie Luther (faux-ELCA).

Minnesota Governor's Resting Face - Uncommonly Down

I bought a book on photographic analysis, long ago. The author pointed out the meaning of some photographs, often overlooked. Some people always look sour or angry. Others are prone to smile and laugh. Governor Walz can smile, but he seems to be unusually sad. I wonder why.

Time of Grace - Mark Jeske's gift to ELCA's gay ministries, via Pastor Mike.

Say It Ain't So, Mark and Avoid Jeske, Say It Ain't So

 

 Jeske's graphic is all about Jeske.

Jeske's Change or Die pan-Lutheran advocacy meetings unified ELCA-WELS-LCMS. That was obvious way back in the Snowbird Conference and WELS-ELCA-LCMS "evangelism" conferences.

They all sing the same tune when it comes to money for the church executives.

WELS-ELCA_LCMS-ELS Partnership Through Jeske's Thrivent - Projective Vomiting in Your Faces. Protestia Website

 

 ELCA Pastor Lura Groen

"Though some may want to dismiss her as a crackpot loon, Groen isn’t a nobody, even though it wouldn’t matter if she were. Instead, she continues to rise in the ranks through the ELCA. Four years ago, she was elected to the Discipline Committee of the Delaware-Maryland Synod, where she enjoys a close friendship with the Bishop. She has also spoken on at least one panel with Elizabeth Eaton, the head of the ELCA. Those in power know who she is and how she behaves and are entirely and utterly supportive."

I Photoshopped Liz Eaton into this touching Thrivent group portrait. "Thrivent builds" added! I moved the "It's a Girl!" poster from another ELCA photo, so proud of Liz. She makes sure diversity is selective.

"The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (ELCA) is a simmering cauldron of blasphemy and mephistopjlean angst, to the point that sitting through an actual church service at one of their pagan temples is a foretaste of the hell that awaits them if they don’t repent. Some of the denomination’s greatest hits include:

Woke Church Newsletter Invites Congregants To Help Pay for Abortions and Abortion Pills
Pastrix Says Jesus Called Syrophoenician Woman a ‘B*****’ + “Jesus Screwed Up, She Redeems Him”
Queer ELCA Pastrix Ordained With Drag Queen Nuns While Jennifer Knapp Serenades

 Who could have predicted this? Find out by reading the Ichabod posts from yesteryear.

"This brings us to Lura Groen, the pastrix of Abiding Savior Lutheran Church in Columbia, MD. She is quite possibly the grossest clergy we’ve ever written about, claiming that Jesus was trying to SEDUCE the woman at the well, that there are lesbian angels’ who ‘consensually’ flirt with queer christian women, and comparing the mystery of the Trinity to the luridness of sadomasochism and BDSM."

"Last we wrote about her, she was praising and endorsing hookups, premarital sex, and polyamory. and saying that Jesus has ‘Other Lovers’ besides the Christian church.In a series of posts on social media she writes:"

What Do Words Mean When They Are Empty

How many in this group oppose women's ordination? Answer - none.

Thriventians three - they have so much in common. 

Orthodox? - they do not agree with each other, but they share the same insurance loot and work hard at pulling grandma's estate into irrevocable trusts. But they are in fellowship with the Benjies, thanks to Mark Jeske (quasi-WELS, crypto-ELCA) sitting on the Thrivent board and organizing LCMS-ELCA-WELS events for and with women pastors from ELCA.

Evangelical? - That was Luther's label because they were the Gospel group courageously opposing the Church of Rome until the Pope excommunicated them. 

Pro-Life? - ELCA promotes abortion, and so does Thrivent, but that is an adiaphoron for WELS and LCMS.

Orthodox? - A better word would be ortho-apostate, because they agree 100% on Objective (Faithless) Justification.

Inerrant Bible? - Presiding Bishop Liz is opposed to inerrancy and welcomes every translation of the Bible except the King James Version. Mirthless Mark Schroeder and Matt the Fatt Harrison welcome all translations except the King James Version - and they hate Luther.

Confessional? - All three agree that they are confessional but the clear teaching of the Book of Concord opposes their pathetic, anti-Means of Grace clinging to Universalism. Everyone is forgiven and saved, even before birth, according to their experts.  They work together because they reject Justification by Faith together.

Mark Jeske's lopsided grin is...troubling.

Jumping on Thrivent grants like hobos on a hotdog? They agree on their lofty mission to make their world safe for that not-so-hot insurance company. Thrivent does not give to Lutherans alone, nor do they serve only Lutherans, but they enjoy having a captive audience (free trinkets) for their sales. Thrivent has more Lutheran names and addresses than the NSA.

Deluxe board meetings? When the leaders get together, it is always at expensive resorts, yet they do not name the location or Thrivent paying. Do all three meet jointly to listen to secular snake oil salesmen? They did at Snowbird and posed together for The Lutheran magazine. WELS took quick action and denied it, just as they did with Archbishop Weakland (Roman Catholic) at Wisconsin Lutheran College.

All three of them are dedicated disciples of Church Growth, whether from Fuller Seminary, from Trinity Divinity, or from chase-women-around-the-altar-Willow Creek Community Church.

Exciting New Statistics - For WELS - Evangelism (Marketing) A Big Success - Only 3,000+ Net Losses!

Can anyone read this out loud without laughing?
Paul Iscariot Kelm will never erase his legacy - smart-aleck, warmed-over Calvinism.

The false-teacher-leaders of WELS always have several buddies to back up their nonsense and cry "Fowl!" because they cannot spell.

Where are the statistics for Pastor Mike's church and Pastor Tim's work? It is all about the numbers, for these CPAs - Church Polluting Accountants. Ski's numbers are once again - in the dumps.

This is the Ur-Document of WELS infatuation with Fuller Seminary's marketing stink-bomb. Read below to discover their 45 years of spectacular results.

WELS has gone downhill in every possible way. They are like drunks wobbling along in the dark, grabbing street lights to give the impression of sobriety.

Last year, WELS lost another 3,000+ net members, which means the country is growing in numbers while WELS-LCMS-ELCA-ELS are losing members in droves.

Whatever numbers are posted, the real losses are hidden, ignored, omitted, or buffed up to a beautiful shine.

Valleskey's lop-sided smile is so much like Mark Jeske's ambiguous pose.

 Pieper, who came from WELS, was a genius at blending Justification by Faith and Justification without Faith, Calvinism and Luther, light and dark. Guess who won...for the moment, at least? 

The strange part is - they heatedly denied their false god worship while stealing synod money to attend Fuller Seminary, Trinity Divinity, and Willow Creek Community Church.

WELS/LCMS/ELCA Pastor Mark Jeske To Retire

Jeske makes more on the Thrivent board part-time than most pastors make full-time. Follow the Benjies.

 Will Pastor Mike be moved up to fill the Jeske shoes?

"WELS ran out of Germans. I ran out of gimmicks to use."

Tofu Buildings in China - Demolition - Economy a Sham Propped Up by West

 

The Old Man in the Mountain wonders, "When will the People's Republic of China collapse, in the same way as the tofu apartments?"

What a Waste - Article from India with this video

I remember meeting a retired man who talked about his investment in China. The values were way up and collapsed to nothing. Someone talked him into using up his insurance cash value for this great investment in the exploding Chinese economy. Western money is solicited for inventing a booming economy and covering up the truth.

As I have reported before, the Chinese economy is a sham. They routinely build tofu structures, the nickname used because their concrete starts to fail a few years after completion. The Three Gorges Dam is one such project, criticized by a team of engineers for using China biggest products in producing dam concrete - human and animal manure. The Chinese response was to call the team of engineers "racist" and remove them from the country.

Here is a song by Cohen:

That's how it goes

Everybody knows.

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking.

Everybody knows that the captain lied.

Everybody got this broken feeling

Like their father or their dog just died.

Cohen was a sensation when I was in college and he recently died. Watch any talent show and someone will warble his Halleluiah. His Everybody Knows is definitely the anthem for our age, where we

1. Traded the classic KJV for a cavalcade of Bibles for Dummies;
2. Burned more churches than the Chicago Fire using Church Growth for kindling;
3. Converted warmed over bar music into expensive "hymns" for the young;
4. Replaced the Gospel of Faith in Christ with trust in demographics;
5. Agreed with Calvinists that the Sacraments were just ordinances;
6. Protected the drunk, adulterous clergy and abhorred the efficacy of the Word;
7. Elected synod presidents with no concept of Biblical doctrine. None.
8. Yapped constantly about grace but spurned the Means of Grace.
9. Turned Universalism - Objective Justification - into the Chief Article of Christianity.
10. Used the teaching of Justification by Faith (the actual Chief Article) as the sufficient cause for excommunication.

 Abused WELS students laugh at "We ran out of Germans" sermon by Jeske,
who ran out of ideas to steal several decades ago. Notice the ties - a photo op staged by attention hog Mark and Avoid Jeske.

Let Us Pause To Honor the WELS Framework of Fellowship

WELS pontificates - "They are outside the framework of church fellowship." But of course, WELS ardently worships at the same throne.

I was talking to a member about all the honored greats of Church Growth who imploded, plus a few other scoundrels. WELS and Missouri share them - but the Little Sect on the Prairie is pure (yuk, yuk). Just ask the ELS.

Mark and Avoid Jeske is a regular Robert Schulller, liberal Calvinist, tireless self-promoter, anxious to include every confession of faith, except Justification by Faith.
He has his hands in Thrivent and the Seibert Foundation, The Core, Church and Church (now in stealth mode), and various other entities.

Starting at the top left - Craig Groeschel was being copied verbatim at the Glende-Ski Popcorn Cathedral of Love. The lawyer who proved this and objected to it was excommunicated. The DP supported Glende and Ski.

Top middle - Mark Driscoll - who said bodies would be piled up when he was done. Ski, Glende, and Bishop Katie went to absorb the magic.

Next row down, left - Donald McGavran, Disciples of Christ, founder of Church Growth, promoter of Planned Parenthood in writing.

Aging hippy with the moustache - Leonard Sweet - adored in WELS and the LCMS St. Louis Apostasiorium. Maybe he was really profound, but he sounded like one of those weed addicts who never stop talking.

The cheerful chubby is Ed Stetzer, who is currently very big at Wheaton College and Trinity Divinity in Deerfield. The Deerfield branch of Pietism was used so much by WELS staff that their Love Shack was mentioned twice in one annual report. Trinity Divinity has been disgraced by the behavior of Bill Hybels (below) and Ravi Zacharias. WELS gave pastors money to learn from His Holiness Hybels (but offered me a scholarship there).

The big white-haired portrait is C. Peter Wagner, aka Pete Wagner, also popular in WELS, though his Pentecostal ravings should have frightened most people away. He fell for the creepy guy who was "raising people from the dead" in Florida. He was the hot-shot promoter for McGavran, or as WELS might say, the Larry Olson for the Founder of Church Growth.

At the bottom is Andy Stanley, gay activist Babtist, son of the equally appalling Charles Stanley. Glende, Ski, Bishop Katie (and others) attended at least one Andie Stanley money-maker. Ski blogged about it - lavishing praise on Andy Stanley and worshiping with him. The blog was out in public for a long time. I copied parts of it, because I knew they would destroy the evidence and deny it. 

WELS pastors and staff, plus LCMS dolts of the same persuasion, can always be found with Enthusiasts. They are now so deluded that they continue on the same path, looking for more reasons their faithless Law speeches are driving people away or into their lupine jaws.

Let us not forget Archbishop Weakland, who was invited - with his priests - to offer public lectures at Wisconsin Lutheran College (WELS), a fact later denied by the college and WELS. The lectures were publicized (also denied by WELS). It was not a private luncheon, as WELS declared, which is even more bizarre than lectures. Weakland was also under fire for his relationship with a man and his misuse of church funds, but that was no problem for WELS.

Archbishop Rembert Weakland

One WELS Church Growth expert sold Cho books at a WELS gathering, and Cho was promoted at the Kelm conference I was forced to attend.

I do not remember if Hill's name was mentioned in awe - as so many phonies are in WELS - but he was a major influence for Robert Schuller, who received an award for supporting Hill's dogma. Pete Wagner talked crazy like this too. Luther warned that when the Means of Grace are set aside, many foul errors will rush in. 

 WELS has a special hatred for the Book of Concord. They are Quia Marias, pretending to love a confession they despise and corrupt. The ELS is the same but quieter.

Cross-dressing Andy Mueller, son of Wayne, is a big deal at Church and Change Your Gender, the WELS Church Growth cult that went invisible.