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Showing posts with label Episcopal. Show all posts

Wednesday, August 17, 2022

Where Have You Gone, Bishop Robinson? Our Nation Turns Its Lonely Eyes to You.

Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson and his/her husband.

Where have you gone, Bishop Robinson?

Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Woo, woo, woo

What's that you say, Bishop Robinson?

Joltin' Joe has left and gone away.

Hey, hey, hey

Hey, hey, hey.


This happy couple got divorced.


 Professor Pastor Bishop Seminary President Guy Erwin, Osage Indian, fulfills all ELCA quotas, except...


NEWS ANALYSIS Aug 17, 2022 12:19 AM EST

The Episcopal Church embraces sex changes for children of 'all ages'

"Resolved, that the 80th General Convention calls for the Episcopal Church to advocate for access to gender affirming care in all forms (social, medical, or any other) and at all ages."



Sunday, April 1, 2018

Archbishop of Wales chooses EASTER to cast doubt on the Resurrection | Daily Mail Online. The Last Sour Belch of UOJ.
The Lutheran UOJists Will Not Stop at Creation

The Archbishop of Wales, John Davies, has been accused of ‘sowing confusion’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5566155/Archbishop-Wales-chooses-EASTER-cast-doubt-Resurrection.html#ixzz5BTueSgBD 

 



Archbishop of Wales chooses EASTER to cast doubt on the Resurrection | Daily Mail Online:



"One of Britain’s leading Anglican clerics has sparked controversy by casting doubts over the Resurrection of Jesus – just days before Easter.

The Archbishop of Wales, John Davies, has been accused of ‘sowing confusion’ over the biblical story that will be celebrated by millions around the world today.

Asked in an interview about the New Testament account of Jesus rising from the tomb, the Archbishop said: ‘I don’t think any of us actually knows, quite frankly.’

He told online magazine Christian Today that it was ‘terribly hard’ for people to grasp the idea of a bodily resurrection.

The 65-year-old Archbishop, who was elected in September to head the Church in Wales – the Welsh equivalent of the Church of England – said something ‘radical’ had happened that had changed people’s lives.

But he then referred to one of the Church’s most contentious theologians, the late Bishop of Durham, David Jenkins, who was accused of blasphemy for questioning the physical nature of the Resurrection when he described it as ‘a conjuring trick with bones’.

Three days after Dr Jenkins was consecrated as a bishop in York Minister in 1984, the cathedral was hit by lightning and gutted by fire – an event some blamed on divine displeasure."



'via Blog this'

Thursday, June 19, 2014

Virtue Online - Jamming the Roman Catholics



Episcopalians Diss Catholic Archbishop Over Marriage March
Episcopal bishop signs letter denouncing the Archbishop’s planned participation in March for Marriage 

By Mary Ann Mueller 
VOL Special Correspondent
www.virtueonline.org 
June 18, 2014 

San Francisco's Catholic Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (IX San Francisco) is taking it on the chin for his strong stance on Christian marriage, defined as a lifetime union between one man and one woman. 

He is scheduled to be a main speaker -- one of four -- at Thursday's (June 19) March for Marriage and traditional marriage rally in Washington, DC. He is to be joined on the National Organization for Marriage platform by former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-Arkansas), former US Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pennsylvania), and New York State Senator Rubén Díaz (D-The Bronx). Both Gov. Huckabee and Sen. Díaz are ordained clergymen. The Governor is an ordained Southern Baptist minister and Sen. Díaz was ordained by the Church of God-Cleveland, TN. 

However, it is only Archbishop Cordileone who is receiving pressure from all sides to back down as he is being painted as "anti-gay," a "hate monger" and "bigoted," and labeling the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), which champions the traditional understanding of holy wedlock, as an " anti-gay hate group." 

Last week, a letter urging the San Francisco archbishop not to participate in the pro-marriage rally was openly signed by 80 politicians, community representatives, faith leaders, and LGBT advocates including: California Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom; San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee; the Very Rev. Brian Baker, Dean of Trinity Episcopal Cathedral in Sacramento; Episcopal Bishop Wendell Gibbs (X Michigan); and Vivian Taylor, Executive Director, Episcopal Integrity-USA.

As a Roman Catholic herself, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (D-California) weighed in on the growing controversy. The House Minority Leader, representing San Francisco in California's 12th Congressional District, characterized the March for Marriage as "venom masquerading as virtue" and charged that her own archbishop was participating in an event that showed "disdain and hate towards LGBT persons."

At the time that the letters were being delivered to Archbishop Cordileone's San Francisco chancery, he was in New Orleans participating in the US Conference of Catholic Bishops' (USCCB) General Assembly, the Catholic version of the Episcopal House of Bishops. So the controversy churning around his participation in this week's March for Marriage was in full swing when he returned to the Golden Gate City. 

Other news agencies also report that the Episcopal bishops of California and Wisconsin signed a petition requesting that the San Francisco archbishop stay home. They have not signed the aforementioned letter, but there is another Internet petition circulating entitled "Don't Speak at Hateful Anti-gay Rally" by Faithful America which has garnered almost 30,500 signatures. However, those names are not being published. 

"Why is one of the nation's most prominent Catholic archbishops scheduled to speak at a virulently anti-gay rally?" the online petition asks.
Posted on Faithful America's "About Us" page is a picture in which Episcopal Bishop Vicky Gene Robinson (IX New Hampshire) clearly stands out in his purple shirt. 

He is standing next to a woman who is shouting in a blow horn at a rally. However, it is curious to note that Bishop Robinson, who is a champion par excellence of the gay rights agenda and marriage equality, seems to remain silent as the controversy swirls around Archbishop Cordileone. The NOM Marriage March is taking place in Washington, DC, his new backyard. He settled in the nation's capital following his retirement from his episcopal duties in New Hampshire and the collapse of his own gay marriage. 

Faithful America seems to be a militant pro-gay online social justice website. It takes a hardline against conservative Christians. Recent petitions include: Christians Don't Want a Right-wing Judge who Misuses Faith (20,368 signatures); Sarah Palin Doesn't Speak for Christians (66,872 signatures); Anti-gay Hate is Unchristian -- Quit World Vision (17,730 signatures); Anti-gay Hate Isn't Religious Freedom (23,004 signatures); Don't Use the Bible to Bash Gay Athletes (25,645 signatures); Bigotry Isn't Christian and Doesn't Belong on Duck Dynasty (26,181 signatures). 

Monday (June 16) Michigan Bishop Gibbs, a signatory of the political letter, joined the other three Michigan Episcopal bishops in signing an amici curiae supporting marriage equality. The other Michigan bishops include: Todd Ousley (II Eastern Michigan); Rayford Ray (XI Northern Michigan); and Whayne Hougland (IX Western Michigan).

In February 2013, all the Episcopal bishops in California, lead by the Episcopal bishop in San Francisco Bishop Marc Andrus (XIII California), signed two amici curiae briefs -- one to strike down the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) and the other to undo California's Proposition 8 recognizing lawful marriage between a man and a woman. 

In addition to Bishop Andrus, the Episcopal ordinaries of California are: Bishop Mary Gray-Reeves (III El Camino Real); Bishop James Mathes (IX San Diego); Bishop Jon Bruno (VI Los Angeles); Bishop Berry Beisner (VII Northern California) and Bishop David Rice (III Provisional TEC San Joaquin). Los Angeles also has two bishops suffragan -- Bishop Diane Bruce and Bishop Mary Glasspool, a lesbian. At the time of the signing of the twin amici curiae briefs, Bishop ChesterTalton (II Provisional TEC San Joaquin) had not yet retired. Wisconsin bishops include: Steven Miller (XI Milwaukee); Matthew Gunter, (VIII Fond du Lac); and William Lambert, Eau Claire). All Episcopal dioceses in California accept same-sex blessings while the practice hasn't fully spread to Wisconsin. The Dairy State is still struggling with the concept of gay marriage where it is just getting a rocky foothold.

Archbishop Cordileone, on the other hand, was a strong proponent of DOMA and Proposition 8. As the chairman of the USCCB Subcommittee on the Defense and Promotion of Marriage, he is in direct theological opposition to his Episcopal counterpart in San Francisco, Bishop Andrus.

The Catholic archbishop and the Episcopal bishop have crossed swords before. When Archbishop Cordileone was reassigned to San Francisco from Oakland in October 2012, he was "welcomed" to the neighborhood by Bishop Andrus who touted the wonders of the Millennium Development Goals, which are more geared to social justice than the Gospel message.

Bishop Andrus also showed up late for Archbishop Cordileone's enthronement, missing the entrance procession at the Catholic Cathedral of St. Mary of the Assumption. Although he was an invited guest -- one of 2000 -- he was asked to wait until all had processed in the cathedral where upon he would be seated. The Episcopal bishop left in a snit and turned to the blogosphere to decry the Archdiocese's unwillingness to immediately seat him without mentioning his own tardiness. The Archdiocese concluded that San Francisco's Episcopal bishop was spoiling for a fight. 

The Episcopal bishop feels that the Catholic view of marriage is oppressive and that the Archbishop's affirmation of Catholic teaching on holy wedlock and his support of Proposition 8 is "suppressing the rights of others who, too, have been created in God’s image." So the Episcopal bishop invited any disenchanted Catholics to cross over the divide and become Episcopalians. He would welcome them with open arms and enter into solidarity with them. The Episcopal Diocese of California is inclusive and fully embraces all. 

Archbishop Cordileone is holding his ground. Monday (June 16) he released a letter to some of the signatories of the original letter to him, including Dean Baker at Trinity Episcopal Cathedral, addressing them as "Dear Fellow Citizens", in which he made several specific points. The Archbishop's personal reply apparently was not sent to Michigan's Episcopal Bishop Wendell Gibbs nor Vivian Taylor from Episcopal Integrity-USA. as they were not mentioned in the list of recipient addresses. 

The San Francisco archbishop thanked the letter writers for their thoughts about his upcoming participation in the March for Marriage. He reiterated that as a bishop, he had to "proclaim the truth—the whole truth—about the human person and God’s will for our flourishing ... in season and out of season, even when truths that it is my duty to uphold and teach are unpopular, including especially the truth about marriage as the conjugal union of husband and wife."

He poignantly pointed out that the March for Marriage was not an 'anti-gay" event but rather a "pro-marriage" happening. 
"...it is not anti-anyone or anti-anything," he explained. "Rather, it is a pro-marriage March. The latter does not imply the former. Rather, it affirms the great good of bringing the two halves of humanity together so that a man and a woman may bond with each other and with any children who come from their union."

Much of the media coverage surrounding Archbishop Cordileone's participation in the March for Marriage paint the event as "anti-gay" rather than "pro-marriage," giving the headlines a built-in negative slant and the story a biased spin. 

"Lawmakers ask S.F. archbishop not to attend anti-gay marriage rally" (LA Times); "San Francisco Archbishop Urged to Miss Anti-Gay March for Marriage" (LA Frontiers); "San Francisco Archbishop Outrages Community With Plans To Join Anti-Gay Rally" (Huffington Post) "San Francisco archbishop defends decision to join D.C. rally against gay marriage" (National Catholic Reporter); "SF Archbishop Makes No Apologies For Attending Anti-Gay Rally, Yet Asks For Open-Mindedness" (San Francisco Chronicle); and "San Francisco Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone Spurns Appeals to Skip Anti-Gay Rally" (Associated Press)
"Unfortunately, many conclusions are being drawn about those involved in the March for Marriage based on false impressions," Archbishop Cordileone wrote, noting that if the point of the March for Marriage were to single out a group of individuals and target them for hatred, he would not go.

He also uncategorically stated that he and his distractors "share a common disdain for harsh and hateful rhetoric."

"It must be pointed out, though, that there is plenty of offensive rhetoric which flows in the opposite direction. In fact, for those who support the conjugal understanding of marriage, the attacks have not stopped at rhetoric," the San Francisco archbishop reasoned. "Simply for taking a stand for marriage as it has been understood in every human society for millennia, people have lost their jobs, lost their livelihoods, and have suffered other types of retribution, including physical violence."

Finally he pleaded, "Please do not make judgments based on stereotypes, media images and comments taken out of context. Rather, get to know us first as fellow human beings. I myself am willing to meet personally with any of you not only to dialogue, but simply so that we can get to know each other. When all is said and done, then, there is only one thing that I would ask of you more than anything else: before you judge us, get to know us."

Last year, the San Francisco archbishop travelled to Washington, DC, to lead the 2013 March for Marriage participants in prayer. This year he encouraged his brother bishops to support the March for Marriage in an April letter he penned jointly with Bishop Richard Malone (XIV Buffalo). 

"The March for Marriage will be an important means to promote and defend marriage for the good of our culture," the bishops wrote. "... to pray for our federal and state governments and to stand in solidarity with people of goodwill."

Mary Ann Mueller is a journalist living in Texas. She is a regular contributor to VirtueOnline

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GJ - Jamming is an all-out attack on anyone who questions the lavender agenda. WELS/ELS students jammed me recently for quoting their Facebook ranks. I quoted them verbatim, so I was treated to vulgar, obscene emails, and threats of "legal action."

Two of the posts earned 2,000 page views total, and there were a few more posts which were heavily read.

Worshiping with gay activist Andy Stanley is A-OK in WELS,
 a "conservative" Lutheran sect.
Puff piece on Andy Stanley and his father.

Tuesday, June 3, 2014

Virtue Online - Any Parallel to Lutherans a Pure Co-Inky-Dink


The Fictional World of Anglican Reconcilers

NEWS ANALYSIS

By David W. Virtue DD
www.virtueonlione.org
June 2, 2014

A number of African and North American bishops claiming to be “foundational callers of reconciliation” met recently with the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby at the Fifth Consultation of Anglican Bishops in Dialogue in Coventry, England. 

According to an Episcopal News Service report, two-dozen bishops from Africa and North America renewed their pledge to reconciliation in the Anglican Communion and to walking together as a family despite deep cultural and theological differences.

Together, the bishops committed themselves “to consider Christ’s ministry of reconciliation in the world [and] to sharing a journey … into God’s intended future for humankind and all of the creation.”

High sounding words, indeed, full of noblesse oblige and richness of tone. But bear with me.

Bishop Stacy Sauls, chief operating officer for the Episcopal Church, a 24kt card carrying liberal, a Jefferts Schori spear carrier, and one of two Episcopal Church bishops participating in the consultation, described it as “a pivotal moment for bridge-building efforts in the Anglican Communion.”

“I have come to wonder if the impediment to our communion as we have experienced it is neither justice nor orthodoxy, but pride. As we have come to understand one another as children of God and bishops deeply committed to the Gospel ministry of reconciliation, the wall of pride that has divided us has begun to crumble,” commented Sauls. Diocese of Colorado Bishop Rob O’Neill was the other Episcopal Church bishop attending the consultation.

VOL: Pride, PRIDE! What is proud about a church that openly embraces pansexuality, has gay and lesbian bishops in its ranks, and boasts of the fact that those who oppose such innovations are screamed at as “fundamentalist”, “homophobic”, “oppressive” and “uninclusive”? Oh, but it is about orthodoxy, why else would the Anglican Church in North America come into existence? It isn't just about gay and lesbian bishops; it is about the authority of Scripture, about the gospel, about the very nature of truth itself. Where is the pride in leaving TEC; especially if when you leave, you lose your church, pension, some of your congregation, a steady income and have to start up all over again…and then watch the denomination you left spend nearly $40 million in lawsuits over ownership of properties they never built?

Real diversity would allow traditional bishops and congregations to remain,
instead of suing their socks off.


Sudanese Bishop Anthony Poggo from the Diocese of Kajo Keji said he greatly valued being a part of the consultation. “It’s important for us to respect each other and continue to talk with each other as part of one family,” he told ENS. “Some of us have taken a different view on various issues within Scripture, but this does not mean we look at the other person as an enemy.”

VOL: But enemies they are, Bishop, because one side views the other as “enemies of the gospel” (Rom. 11:28)

For Poggo, one of the main fruits of the consultation has been “to meet with my brothers and sisters from other parts of the communion, to renew friendships and also to have hope that we are one family although we have different opinions.”

Those “different opinions” have been around since before Lambeth ’98. Nothing has changed. Rebellion against the moral has only grown and deepened in Western Anglicanism since then with openly homogenital priests elevated to the episcopacy in the US (and will, over time, occur in the UK. Think Jeffrey John).

Furthermore, TEC and Trinity Wall Street (the single wealthiest church in the world) are pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into Africa, manipulating vulnerable provinces like Tanzania and Central Africa, enabled and pushed along by the Anglican Communion Office in an all out effort to move provinces away from their Evangelical and Anglo-Catholic heritage. The civil war and subsequent fall out in the Sudan is a gift to the Episcopal Church to bring money to bear on individual dioceses even though Sudanese Archbishop Deng Bul has made it clear he will not be swayed by overseas money to change his views on homosexuality.

Bishop Poggo’s hope for “one family…with different opinions” belies the fact of GAFCON I and II and, most of all,of a worldwide realignment of the Anglican Communion, presently underway that will not be stopped. The Anglican Church in North America rose up precisely because of irreconcilable “different opinions” made by the American Episcopal Church. It is utter delusory of the Sudanese bishop to think otherwise.

In testimony, released May 29, the bishops recommitted to what they identify as their “foundational call as reconcilers” and asked forgiveness for their failures.

“We testify first that we find ourselves to be brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus. It seems an obvious point, but it has not always been taken for granted. Some have claimed otherwise. It is a deception,” they said.

VOL: It is a deception, a huge deception. Jefferts Schori, TEC’s ecclesiastical mountebank, has made it her virtual life’s work to destroy orthodoxy in The Episcopal Church and she has almost succeeded. (You can count the number of orthodox dioceses left on one hand…literally). When she finally leaves office, the Episcopal Church will have declined since 2002 by nearly 207,000 ASA and spent some $40 million on lawsuits for properties. She will have deposed more bishops than any other PB in the Episcopal Church’s history. A remarkable achievement by any standard.

“We have a lot to witness to a much-divided world,” Archbishop Colin Johnson of the Dioceses of Toronto and of Moosonee in the Anglican Church of Canada, told ENS. “Conversation is powerful as we ‘turn toward’ one another in mutual respect, learn from each other, and in the process of conversation we are converted by the always present third party to the conversation, the Holy Spirit.”

VOL: The ultra-liberal Archbishop of Toronto is one the most liberal bishops in the Anglican Church of Canada. He is second only to the former Bishop of New Westminster, Michael Ingham who began the sexual train wreck in 2002 and who was also present at this gabfest. Parishes are closing down weekly in his diocese. If it continues, the whole diocese, indeed the entire Anglican province, is a generation away from extinction!

The consultation – which has met previously in London (2010), Dar es Salaam (2011), Toronto (2012), and Cape Town (2013) – was created in response to differences concerning human sexuality issues and grew out of an informal gathering at the 2008 Lambeth Conference that Johnson convened.

VOL: And NOTHING has been resolved since Lambeth Resolution 1:10. The gold standard on human sexuality has been spun, blasted and shot at more times than a leopard making its way across the Serengeti.

A case in point is The Anglican Church of Canada’s upcoming proposal to change the marriage canon to permit same sex couples to marry that is nothing more than a “reconciling” smoke screen to conceal the fact that the decision has already been made. There will be no turning back. Orthodoxy on marriage will be squashed like a bug in the name of a higher inclusivity.

“I was determined that the moderate voices among Anglican bishops needed to be heard,” Johnson told ENS. Those voices, he said, include people who believe that the Anglican Communion is not falling apart and who want “to maintain and indeed deepen the relationships of mutual support and prayer that have been the hallmark of our life together as Anglicans.”

VOL: Johnson’s uber boss, Archbishop Fred Hiltz raced across the Atlantic and pled with Archbishop Welby not to recognize the ACNA and ANiC. If he didn’t feel so threatened by the existence of the ACNA, why waste the plane fare? Clearly, he did. Why won’t Jefferts Schori and Hiltz talk serious reconciliation with Anglicans in their own provinces? They can’t or won’t because they are polls apart.

The Rev. Canon Isaac Kawuki Mukasa, who served on Johnson’s diocesan staff at the time and who was named in January as Africa relations officer for both the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada, organized the first gathering of 11 bishops in London.

VOL: Mukasa is little more than a patsy for the liberal agenda of the Canadian church. He no more speaks for the vast Global South majority than he does for the ANiC.

Mukasa believes that the consultation over the past 5 years has made a “considerable impact” on communion-wide reconciliation. With each successive meeting, walls were broken down and the bishops came to realize that “they were actually doing the same kind of mission in different contexts,” he said by telephone from Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, where he is meeting with church partners.

Mukasa observed that the questions and engagement between the bishops became more candid. “That truth-telling and honesty began to show there was a great deal of trust building between them, which reflected the kind of friendships that were developing,” he said. He described the Coventry consultation as “a gamechanger.”

VOL: Totally false. Tanzania was once an orthodox province. No longer. A local missionary told VOL that The Episcopal Church paid off electors $75,000 to swing the votes for a new more compliant archbishop, the Most Rev. Jacob Chimeledya. TEC wanted Tanzania out of GAFCON and, with money, the floodgates opened to TEC personnel to push the gay agenda. Mission accomplished. In December 2006, the province declared itself to be in "impaired communion" with The Episcopal Church (US) over the ordination of practicing homosexuals and the blessing of same-sex unions. Not anymore. TEC got their man in following the controversial election.

Mukasa, who was ordained in the Anglican Church of Uganda in 1984, said that many African bishops “are tired of fighting. They have strong beliefs about human sexuality, but they also feel they were misled by their leaders,” he added, noting their recognition that conservative and breakaway Anglicans “came and occupied provincial offices and tried to lead them into a fight. Many African leaders are beginning to get tired of being used to fight this war.”

VOL: Not true. They are not tired and they have not been mislead. There were four Kenyan bishops at this gabfest. A source has told VOL that they went in a personal capacity and it's not clear that all of them really understood what David Porter, Welby’s anointed professional “reconciler”, and his “reconciliation game” was really up to. “This was a deliberate attempt by Lambeth Palace to go behind the backs of GAFCON Primates.” 

VOL was told that there was no consultation with Archbishop Eliud Wabukala who made his views on Indaba crystal clear in his March GFCA pastoral letter. He declared, Contrary to the claim made on the website of the London Anglican Communion office that there is a Kenyan ‘Resource Hub’ for Continuing Indaba, neither the Anglican Church of Kenya nor any of its learning institutions are participants in this project. We are strongly committed to the work of reconciliation within the Church and within civil society, but the gospel ministry of reconciliation is given to us by God and must not therefore compromise the Word of God.” Wabukala totally repudiated Indaba as a questionable construct undermining the gospel.

There is a “great appetite for conciliatory voices,” Mukasa said. “We are turning a corner.”

VOL: Again, not true. No such corner has been turned. The Anglican Communion is in the midst of a worldwide realignment; there is a de facto schism even if there is not a de jure schism.

Johnson told ENS that the main objective of the consultation is “to listen more than speak, to learn about each others’ missional contexts and to understand one another.

“We have discovered that what brings us together is much more central to our beliefs and profound in our calling than what causes division. We have discovered that we are all faithfully trying to live out Christ’s call to be disciples and to be the Church in our local contexts. We have learned from one another and we have developed deepening friendships.”

Johnson said that bishops have a responsibility to build bridges across divides, “interpret our local community to the wider church and the wider church to our local church. This group is doing that informally, as a grassroots initiative.”

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby, who has identified reconciliation as his main priority, joined the consultation for a day of prayer, teaching, and conversation. Welby’s presence “had a profound impact on each of us and was an important influence in our subsequent deliberations,” according to the testimony.

VOL: “Missional contexts” does not change the content of the gospel. It is the same in New York as Nairobi, only how it is presented within those contexts is different. The most alarming thing about this is that it amounts to an abandonment of Scriptural authority….if we see “dimly” (1 Cor. 13:12) on gay sex, then what is clear in the Bible? And Welby is directly implicated…they say his teaching had a “profound impact”….

The truth is (homo)sexuality is the elephant in the room and it won’t go away because a handful of liberals wish it so. GAFCON I and GAFCON II are evidence of that. With none of the big African players like Nigerian Archbishop Nicholas Okoh, Kenyan Archbishop Eliud Wabukala, Ugandan Archbishop Stanley Ntagali, Rwandan Archbishop Onesphore Rwaje or any of their choice of bishops present at this consultation, it is nothing more than a handful of liberals on an expensive junket in England talking to themselves. It is delusory to think otherwise.

On the US side, it was even worse. The obvious appearance of Jefferts Schori’s consigliore Stacy Sauls might be expected, but the appearance of Rob O’Neil, Bishop of Colorado, raised eyebrows in a number of quarters. Here is a man who spent $3 MILLION diocesan dollars going after one single priest, Fr Don Armstrong, in order to take away his parish because he denounced TEC’s apostasies and fled to CANA. O'Neil also used the courts to bring legal charges against the priest that amounted to little more than a slap on the wrist. 

As Fr. Armstrong narrates it, “He is the guy who said his first priority as bishop was to run me and (the Rev. Dr.) Ephraim Radner out of the diocese. He was the one who told me his intention was to destroy me, to have me spend the rest of my life in jail. He is the guy who spent $3,000,000 building a false case against me involving still attempts to involve the IRS in my life. He is the guy who alienated so many in the diocese and spent all their reserves...what will reconciliation look like for O’Neill, what will he bring to the table or leave at the altar?

“I do know that reconciliation is costly (Jesus was crucified), so I know from my side I need to let go of all malice and revenge, of which I let go five years ago, as did my parish, many of whom were personally sued and threatened by Bishop O'Neill.

“If he is going to these discussions, this is his own reconciliation challenge to think through. Without reconciling with me, who he went after to tame the rest of his diocese, he has nothing to say to the larger church.”

Bishop Mark MacDonald, National Indigenous Anglican Bishop in the Anglican Church of Canada, put this spin on the consultation, “We talked about the fact that one of the primary signs of our redemption is our love for other Christians … We came away from this reminded of that, but also with some sense that we do really love one another. Despite our differences there is passion about who we are as brothers and sisters in Christ, but also who we are as people with a very distinct calling.”

VOL: Really! Where is the love for all the tens of thousands of lay people, unnumbered priests and bishops who have left over TEC’s theological and moral innovations? This is pure fiction. Leftists feel the “love” because they are in agreement with one another; there is no love by the left for conservatives. They are to be coerced and persuaded into changing their minds and if they don’t, they are gone.

Toronto Archbishop Johnson says he has grown increasingly hopeful with each encounter. “It is clear to me that the Anglican Communion is full of life and has enormous potential as a witness that unity is not uniformity, that diversity is a gift of the Spirit and does not necessarily lead to division (and is a reflection of God’s own life in Trinity), and that conflicts that arise because of differences can be healed by praying together, conversation, listening, mutual understanding and patience, rather than by separation and dis-enfranchising the other.”

VOL: The only true “life” is in the vibrantly growing Anglicanism of the ACNA and ANiC; there is no “life” in TEC or ACoC. Just visit a dozen or so churches and witness aging flocks, most with less than 50 people with few Nones, Millennials or Gen X’s to be found in the pews.

“Diversity” means only one thing in TEC and other liberals; it means that all opinions are of equal value, based loosely on the notion that it doesn’t matter what you believe so long as you are sincere. But if the notion of “diversity” on sexuality issues is not met with total unambiguous approval by orthodox Episcopalians, all hell breaks loose and the shouts of “homophobia” ring from the rafters of the Integrity organization and seminaries like GTS and EDS.

These expensive gabfests cost money with thousands spent on airfares and hotels all to maintain the fiction that things are getting better every day in the Anglican Communion. It’s a lie. They are not. Welby blew off GAFCON II when he could have used it as a Kairos moment. He failed. He has obfuscated over homosexuality making him no better than his predecessor, Dr. Rowan Williams. The three oldest Anglican provinces: The Church of England, The Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Canada are a generation away from extinction. There will be nobody in the pews twenty years from now to keep them alive. Mergers and juncturing with other denominations just extend the patient’s death rattle a few more years.

The future of the Anglican Communion, if there is one, resides totally in the hands of the Global South. Right now they are loyal to Canterbury, but they know full well they don’t need to go through Canterbury to get to Jesus. How long that position is sustainable, only they know. The timetable is there’s; no one else’s.


ELCA is talking about 4 million members now, down from 5.3 million.
WELS and Missouri are following, like ducks wagging their tails.

Friday, May 30, 2014

Virtue Online - Archbishop's Secretary Sounds Like the WELS Lavender Lobby -
Banning and Threatening Those Who Disagree with Them

"Sue Ichabod for reporting on your graduation. Silence Ichabod!
Quoting Dear Leader's Pornographic Slander is...well...slander.
We can get the American Civil Liberties Union to deny his civil liberties."
Ex-Gay Anglican Blogger Says Archbishop Welby’s Gay Secretary Blocks Information to ABC
Welby’s secretary deliberately blocks anti-gay correspondence he doesn’t want Welby to see, blogger charges

By David W. Virtue DD
www.virtueonline.org
May 30, 2014

An ex-Gay Anglican blogger in England is charging that Archbishop Justin Welby’s secretary is gay and is deliberately blocking correspondence that might help gays break free of homosexuality from the evangelical archbishop.

The blogger is Phelim McIntyre http://aflame.blog.co.uk/ who describes himself as an ex-gay who once worked in gay youth groups and support groups for those who are HIV positive before his own surprising change in orientation. He wrote in his blog post that he was forced to speak out when Archbishop Welby came out in support of an organization known as Stonewall whose anti-gay bullying resources conceal its true agenda -- pushing homosexuality contrary to church teaching and statements from General Synod.

McIntyre says that while he is opposed to bullying of all types, Stonewall’s position on homosexuality is in opposition to the traditional teaching of the Church, as well as the statements from General Synod.

“Stonewall's resources are contrary to science as it speaks of homosexuality as unchanging and fixed when research shows us that 98% of those who identify as homosexual at the age of 16 identify as heterosexual at the age of 17. Stonewall's resources run the danger of forcing a sexual identity on young people before their sexual identity is actually fixed.”

McIntrye, 42, charges that Stonewall classifies as homophobic any teaching that is not pro-gay, including deeply held religious views and views on the dangers of gay sexual practices obtained by careful study of the research, thereby stifling any discussion on the subject.

“By emphasizing the issue of homosexual feelings Stonewall gives the impression that this is worse than other types of bullying.”

McIntrye said he tried to get in touch with Archbishop Welby and warn him of the dangers of Stonewall’s real agenda, but got stonewalled by Andrew Nunn, the Archbishop's correspondence secretary. He described Stonewall as an “unrighteous gatekeeper”.

“I asked Archbishop Welby to consider alternative resources, and I provided introductory information about the Acception course (http://www.acception.info/APCirriculumPreview.pdf). I also asked whether it would be possible to meet up with him or a representative to discuss my concerns and alternative resources. 

“After a couple of months I emailed Lambeth Palace to check for a response. What I received was a curt email from Dr. Welby's correspondence secretary stating that no meeting could be arranged and that my concerns would not be considered. When I emailed to explain my concerns, from personal experience, I discovered that the gentleman who replied to me was not only openly gay but also aggressively anti-ex-gay. (VOL has since learned that the man in question is Andrew Nunn). My letter and the preview of the Acception Course had not even reached Dr. Welby or his team because his correspondence secretary had deemed it unsuitable - despite it dealing with all bullying and being closer to both the science and the position of the Church of England.”

McIntyre said that after an exchange of emails, he decided to share the conversation with a number of contacts within the Church of England. “With my permission this was passed on to someone who was on General Synod who has started asking questions about what it going on. But the response I got from my contacts was a ‘so that's why everything we have sent on this subject doesn't get to Dr. Welby’."

Organizations such as Christian Concern have asked their members to write to Dr. Welby to complain about the use of Stonewall's resources in Church schools. If my experience is anything to go by, those letters with be "filed" in the bin.

Lambeth Palace spokesman Ed Thornton said the archbishop would not comment.

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This article appeared with VOL not bothering to contact me, despite taking my picture from Facebook they did not (unlike Church of England Newspaper and others) attempt to message me to either ask whether I had anymore correspondence with Mr Nunn or to ask whether I was willing to publish the correspondence to back up my claims. 

I have contacted Virtue On Line to complain about the tone of the article and their lack of effort to contact me having attempted to post a comment stating that - as the blogger in the article - I do not agree with the tone of the article and that they did not contact me for verification of claims, a comment that was not allowed to be posted. This comment, the full correspondence and the apology I sent to Mr Nunn concerning the VOL article and the tabloid tone it has taken is now in full on my blog.


Phelim McIntyre

Thursday, May 29, 2014

Virtue Online - The Church of England Will Have Women Bishops



LONDON: Church of England on Brink of Letting Women Serve as Bishops
One major hurdle stands in the way to changing centuries of church practice

By David W. Virtue
www.virtueonline.org
May 29, 2014

The Church of England’s governing body - General Synod - voted in February to send draft legislation allowing female bishops in its 44 dioceses. This past Friday the church voted all in favor with Manchester, the last to do so, deciding Thursday.

The Church of England has grappled for years with whether to admit women to the episcopacy. The legislation will now go back to the Synod in July for a final vote.

The issue of the ordination of women to the episcopacy has long divided the Anglican Communion with significant numbers of Anglican provinces in the Global South not ordaining women to the episcopacy let alone the priesthood. The Province of Nigeria, the largest province in the Anglican Communion with 20 million adherents does not ordain women to the priesthood. The Anglican Communion is the third largest Christian denomination in the world with some 77 million adherents.

Anglican provinces in Australia, Canada, New Zealand and the United States already have women serving as bishops. The U.S. has an avowed lesbian in its ranks.

The following attached story highlights the dangers of women being ordained to the ministry. In the 20 years women have been priests in the UK, there is no record of more conversions or any church growth. No U.S. bishop is on record as faithful to Scripture in the area of human sexuality. The former Suffragan Bishop of New York Catherine Roskam was an attendee and regular supporter of Gay Pride Parade days.

Church of England Dioceses Go For Gold!

LONE STAR PARSON
http://lonestarparson.blogspot.com
May 28, 2014

Church of England traditionalists were routed last week, with all of the shrinking denomination's dioceses voting in favor of legislation to make women bishops. The Women Bishops Measure will now go to the member-short Church's General Synod for final approval in July. Maybe, then, 2000 years of patriarchal oppression will be broken and England will experience a new dawn of faith as the people of the Sceptered Isle flock back to church to see women bishops. That's the way it's been in America.
















The next generation of women priests in the Church of England several of whom will be bishops.





















The Episcopal Church has had Jane Dixon of Washington!





























Bishop Tom Shaw with Bishop Barbara Harris of Massachusetts



























Lesbian Bishop Mary Glasspool of Los Angeles



















The big enchilada – Katharine Jefferts Schori who famously said that personal conversion is a Western heresy.

The Episcopal Church, which bravely pioneered women bishops, is losing an average of 50,000 members a year.

Good luck, CofE.

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