Saturday, August 6, 2011

Any Denomination Would Love
To Have This Many New Congregations,
But These Are All Escapees from ELCA

"I know you are gloating, Brett, and it is not becoming."




George Erdner

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 I'm having some trouble finding the new denominational affiliation of these churches that have left the ELCA. Does anyone have any idea where they ended up? I'm suspecting one of the church bodies other than NALC or LCMC, because those two are pretty good about keeping their websites up-to-date. 

Life Lutheran Church, Richmond, CA
Chinese Lutheran Church, San Francisco, CA
Bethel Lutheran Church, Santa Maria, CA
Advent Lutheran Church, Boca Raton, FL
Peace Lutheran Church, Port Charlotte, FL
Samuel Lutheran Church, Eagle Grove, IA
Immanuel Lutheran Church, Estherville, IA
Fertile Lutheran Church, Fertile, IA
Holmes Lutheran Church, Holmes, IA
Thai Mission, Rockville, MD
Our Redeemer Lutheran Church, Champion, MI
Christ Lutheran Church, Shingleton, MI
Peace Lutheran Church, St Joseph, MI
Trefoldighed Lutheran Church, Battle Lake, MN
New Hope of Lakewood Lutheran Church, Duluth, MN
Calvary Lutheran Church, Golden Valley, MN
St John’s Lutheran Church, Howard Lake, MN
Rejoice Lutheran Church Renewal Church, Northfield, MN
Salem Lutheran Church, Osakis, MN
Sauk Valley Lutheran Church, Osakis, MN
First Lutheran Church, Pillager, MN
Evanger Lutheran Church, Sargeant, MN
Bethel Lutheran Church, Scanlon, MN
Sychar Lutheran Church, Silver Bay, MN
Folden Lutheran Church, Vining, MN
First Lutheran Church, Dillon, MT
Zion Lutheran Church (Obetz), Columbus, OH
St Mark Lutheran Church, Graytown, OH
Calvary Lutheran Church, Irene, SD
Our Savior Lutheran Church, Long Valley, SD
Trinity Lutheran Church, Midland, SD
Grace Lutheran Church, Snyder, TX

Jelly-Tele-Tubbies in WELS

John Parlow, Mark Jeske, Paul Calvin Kelm, and Kudu Don Patterson are the Jelly-Tele-Tubbies.

Prep Schools Abuse Students?
True Blue WELSians Object



grumpy has left a new comment on your post "Ex-Members Talking about an Abusive Sect - WELS":

You mean pink bellies, pole melvins, bottle drops, shagging, and all the other aspects of the "zex" year (no longer practiced I have been assured) could be considered abusive?

Fie the very thought !

That outsider Dr. Jackson seeks to destroy the only group of true Christians in the world...the WELS...

Well, there is the ELS, but aren't they just considered "Bethany Bombers" ?


WELS church lady has left a new comment on your post "Huebner's Double-Talk Comes Through in His Fuller ...":

In response to former_wels_2011:

If you are serious about reaching Pastor Jackson, feel free to email me at rebecca.quam@yahoo.com. I can then forward your information to Pastor GJ's personal email so that he can email you in return.

An easier suggestion would be for you to leave a comment with your email and type "Do not publish this comment" in the message. All veils of secrecy were lifted once the Intrepid Lutherans blog was up and running.

In Christ,
Rebecca


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GJ - I am easy to contact, and this person found me right away. My stated email is gregjackson1948@qwest.net. If someone writes to me there, I upgrade the individual to my mail email address.

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Gird Thy Loins for the ELCA Convention:
Theme - Bottoms Up!

"We could not have reached this point without the support of Thrivent, WELS, Missouri, and the ELS.
We covet the MLC gay video."


Here is the link

As readers know, I am in statu comatosis about all church conventions. They are meaningless gatherings of boring people who think they will accomplish something with a debate and a vote.

The decisions have been made. The committee chairs and members have been chosen to render the correct rubber-stamp on everything debated.

The only possible good result for this convention would be waking up a few more souls. The exit ramps are already crowded with people and congregations leaving.

I wrote about this in 1987 and published the book-lenth manuscript with my name on it.

Lemme see. Thirteen plus eleven equals 24. I was decades ahead of the masses who are now leaving ELCA.

The ELS is dead in the water. WELS and Missouri are collapsing. The LCMC and NALC may be the alternatives chosen by those escaping their Walter-Meyer cults.

Ex-Members Talking about an Abusive Sect - WELS




I have spoken to two ex-WELS members in the last day. I am not going to add any personal details. But that is the setting for what follows.

People do not realize they are in an abusive cult because they are surrounded by those who constantly tell them that God is honored and pleased to have such a wonderful group of Christians - if only the rest were as good. An abusive cult will love-bomb people into the group but also hate them out. Someone who is ex-WELS is the worst of all reprobates, especially if that individual is onto the abuse and talking about it.

The two main components are the abuse (emotional, physical, sexual) and the foul doctrine. The evil doctrine allows and energizes the abuse. WELS teaches universal absolution without faith, which is handy for murdering one's spouse and using the youth group as sex slaves. But WELS also lays down its own law on everyone, and that law has no mercy, no forgiveness, and no fruits of the Spirit.

WELS has a long list of unrepentant, adulterous clergy and teachers. If they are in with the In Crowd, they are guilt-free. However, if a dissenter exhibits any mortal failing, the In Crowd will bury that person in verbal abuse, shun to a fare-thee-well, and excuse their behavior as discipline.

WELS has taken the verse "All men are liars" to a new level - Exponentially, one might say. Thus, they are pleased to brag about their dozens of rules about fellowship principles but will not admit they violate all of them - and have for decades. One proof of that is the shock in the voice of WELS members who do not realize they have been in bed with ELCA (and its forerunners) for many decades. "I never knew that!"

Support for the United Nations? Sure.

Pose with the head of ELCA at a leadership conference? Lie about it. "We had to take their money or someone else would have spent it."

Study at Fuller Seminary? Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, brag, deny. By all means, promote the men who studied there and lied about studying at Fuller. Here is a good one: "I am glad I was there so I could witness against their false doctrine."

Have any of the Ten Commandments survived the brutal regime of WELS? No. False doctrine is promoted as "a gray area of Scripture." The Eighth Commandment applies to dissenters who talk about doctrine, murder, adultery, and child abuse.

Murder? - "That was a long time ago." I am quoting a pastor.

But the worst part of this abusive behavior is the members and church workers try to adjust for the false reality imposed on them. Either they go along with all of it, which is extremely dangerous for the soul, or they snap out of it and get expelled.

Missouri does some of this. The Little Sect on the Prairie re-elected Pope John the Malefactor for being abusive. The micro-mini sects specialize in abuse.




My prescription for healing is two-fold.

First, begin reading the Lenker set of Luther's Sermons to hear the true Gospel and the Reformer's brilliant practical applications.

Second, leave the sect behind whenever that is possible. Worship at home is better than going along with an abusive, false-teaching group. Reading a book on abusive churches will help people realize that they come in all flavors, all confessions.

An ex-WELS pastor told me it was all over for the Wisconsin sect when he read in Mark Schroeder's spin-report that WELS does not repent. Once a sect has reached that level of self-absolution and self-absorption, there is no help.

The Word can address all these problems, but not if no one will wield the Sword of the Spirit.