1. Taxpayer grants (Jeske).
2. Foundation and Thrivent grants (Jeske and Ski).
3. Daddy Warbucks (Jeske and Ski).
Givest thou me a break. I would not skip a rerun of I Love Lucy to hear them.
Intrepid Lutherans, Change or Die! Update
Thursday, February 24, 2011
Change or Die - Update
Since our post last week in which we addressed the ill-conceived Change or Die conference scheduled for March 10th, we have not received any communication from Pastor Jeske or Pastor Skorzewski in response to our letter.
When we approached members of the COP to see if they were aware of this conference, we were informed of the following:
As of this time, the conference brochure and registration form remain unchanged on the Siebert Lutheran Foundation website.
When we approached members of the COP to see if they were aware of this conference, we were informed of the following:
- The WELS Conference of Presidents had scheduled a meeting concerning this conference even prior to our post on Intrepid Lutherans.
- The WELS COP has unanimously requested that Pastors Jeske and Skorzewski not participate in this conference.
As of this time, the conference brochure and registration form remain unchanged on the Siebert Lutheran Foundation website.
6 comments:
- Anonymous said...
- And if they go anyway........? Scott E. Jungen
- February 24, 2011 10:50 AM
- Rev. Paul A. Rydecki said...
- We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. It is our hope and prayer, and even our loving assumption, that the rebuke from God's Word and the request from their overseers in the Church will convince our brothers not only to pull out of this conference, but to see and admit the error of it. That will be cause for great rejoicing.
- February 24, 2011 11:05 AM
- Pastor Jeff Samelson said...
- I remember another time -- about 12 or 13 years or so ago -- that the CoP requested that a someone not go ahead with something that was causing offense in the WELS. They (WLC) went ahead with it anyway. It will be interesting, to say the least, to see what happens in the next few weeks.
- February 24, 2011 1:07 PM
- Lund Family said...
- I felt compelled to right my own letter to Pastor Jeske and sent it last week via postal mail. Most likely, a return letter has not had time to come back my way. We leave the results of this to God. Perry Lund Grace Evangelical Lutheran Oskaloosa, IA.
- February 24, 2011 4:56 PM
- Anonymous said...
- Once one draws a line in the sand, there can be no compromise. If indeed right is right and wrong is wrong, the Intrepids must hold their ground, or retreat into the company of fools comprised of those who sit by the side of the road and wait for someone to do something significant. A "request" by the COP is not the decisive action expected or required; they should not abdicate leadership, they should exercise leadership, and make a clear statement that we untheologically trained laymen can clearly understand. Kenneth Jamka
- February 24, 2011 5:24 PM
- Rev. Paul A. Rydecki said...
- To give our leaders the benefit of the doubt, we (at IL) don't know the form this "request" took. It may well be the decisive action required. It may have been more forceful than a request. And they may be planning on making their judgment public once those involved have been given time to respond. We won't let the issue go. For the moment, we will give Pastors Jeske and Ski a little more time to respond, either to us or to the COP, or preferrably to all those who have contacted them, which would seem to be the loving thing to do. This can't drag on for months. The conference is coming up in two weeks. By that time we should know if the pastors involved have accepted the COP's (and our) admonition gratefully, acknowledging their error (which would be cause for great rejoicing), or if they have accepted the COP's (and our) admonition under protest (which would not yet be cause for rejoicing), or if they have rejected the admonitions they have received (which would be cause for even greater concern).
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GJ - The loving thing is to rebuke these clowns for even thinking of such a thing, but no one would touch the Lord's Anointed (Jeske) earlier, when he engaged in various union activities before. No one touched Jeske's sock-puppet (Ski) when he and Glende attended many different false doctrine worship conferences.
Ski and Glende bragged about their conferences, Tweeted about them, and took pictures in Seattle and at Andy Stanley's Babtist worship conference.
Did anyone discipline Kudu Don Patterson for gathering WELS workers like Rev. Spikey-Hair for a pan-demon conference in Orlando, Florida? No. But Patterson and Kelm gave papers at The Sausage Factory about improving education there.
Above is a reference to asking Willowcreek's Liberal College to cease and desist from inviting Martin Marty. They "gave WELS the finger," to quote Pastor Guy Purdue and invited him anyway.
The only cease orders issued and obeyed were the one about the Kent Hunter/Waldo Werning conference and the Church and Change Stetzer invitation.
I may have the details wrong, but I think Missouri dis-invited Stetzer at the same time. I know Stetzer lined up Missouri and Church and Change on his official calender. The Changers tried to deny this, which meant I was a liar and Stetzer was a liar. I gleefully posted the material in the blog, with the link to Stetzer's calender, his Tweets, and his snide remarks about Lutheran doctrine.
WELS even had one of the Intrepids (pre-Intrepid) convinced that I invented the information. That is why I copy and paste and link. The material may go away at the URL, as it often does, but it is preserved here.
