Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Andy Stanley Cool Is Not Lutheran Worship



AC V has left a new comment on your post "Where Does Anti-Confessionalism End?Universalism a...":

Let's see now, that was a service and sermon about John Parlow, Mike Westendorf, Herod, Mary, Joseph, and YOU/ME, but....Jesus? Not so much.

Also, how hypocritical to preach against a secular Christmas, but then worship and preach in a secular setting: Pre-December on the calendar, but full Christmas decorations in front of the hidden altar (which is there to receive the offering plates apparently because Parlow made special mention that the ushers couldn't get to the altar because it was backstage behind the props), and Scriptural texts that are appointed for the church year calendar festival of Epiphany which always falls on January 6, the 12th day of Christmas. Remember that song?

And on and on and on....

Make no mistake about it, WELS readers, that way of "doing church" is being encouraged in WELS and along with it a (further) departure from Confessional Lutheranism.

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Referencing:


“and talk about a guy (Christ) whose life didn’t work out the way he planned….”
John Parlow

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Where Does Anti-Confessionalism End?Universalism a...":

My apologies, (W)ELS Pastor Parlow's statement about Christ begins at 32:00

Even more disturbing is Parlow's statements at 34:20 where he teaches the real message of Christmas - "The real story is not hat you are promised a merry Hallmark Christmas. It is the good news of God the child, born in a manger, died on a cross, laid in a tomb, risen from the grave, seated at the right hand of the Father, coming back one day to set the world right, your world right. And more importantly, right now for you, to make your messy world right."

REALLY?!? The message of Christmas is that Christ will return one day to make our messy world right? That is a New Age millennialist teaching.

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Andy Stanley Cool Is Not Lutheran Worship":

And more importantly, right now for you, to make your messy world right.

Jesus is going to get my mother-in-law to go back home after Christmas?

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AC V has left a new comment on your post "Andy Stanley Cool Is Not Lutheran Worship":

Excellent article by John Pless linked below: "Delivering Forgiveness of Sins."

The reason WELS is so readily jettisoning the liturgy and replacing it with Evangelical worship forms is because of UOJ.

A few quotes:

The crisis over the liturgy is a result of confusion over the forgiveness of sins. As such it is a doctrinal issue and therefore, ultimately church divisive.

Liturgy, as it is divine service, delivers the forgiveness of sins. The liturgy does not exist to provide edifying entertainment, motivation for sanctified living, or therapy for psychological distresses, but the forgiveness of sins.

The forgiveness of sins has no real presence within the theology of Evangelicalism. At best, troubled sinners are pointed back to Calvary. The problem is as Luther has reminded us - that forgiveness was acquired at Calvary but not delivered there. Calvary is back there in time almost two thousand years ago. At its worst, Evangelicalism turns the troubled sinner inward to his own conscience.

The cultus of Evangelicalism exchanges the absolution for assurances of grace, the Gospel as the efficacious Word of salvation for a gospel that invites and requires a human decision, and the supper of the Lord's body and blood for a symbolic recollection of the upper room. Where is the forgiveness of sins?

Read it all:

http://www.confessionalsbytes.com/2010/02/john-pless-delivering-forgiveness-of.html