Friday, February 3, 2017

Fascinating Post from Norman Teigen, 2006.
President Moldstad may have acted precipitously in suspending Rolf Preus | Norman's Demesne

 The Rolf Synod sojourned with ELDONA for a long time,
but Rolf went back to the LCMS, after suitable penance -
and the Rolfians crawled back to the ELS.


President Moldstad may have acted precipitously in suspending Rolf Preus | Norman's Demesne:



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JUL 21
President Moldstad may have acted precipitously in suspending Rolf Preus

I have learned from a reliable source that President John Moldstad did not do much consulting when he suspended Rolf Preus from the ELS a few months back.

Moldstad had first suspended Preus on the convention floor of the 2005 ELS convention. That suspension was quickly revoked when Erling Teigen (full disclosure compels me to say that Prof. Teigen is my cousin) asked every one to stop and to withdraw the statements of the previous several minutes.

In February after a series of some meetings (I don't know how many, or whom was in attendance) Moldstad suspended Preus. Moldstad has authority to suspend, but having the power and using it wisely are two different things.

My source (not a family members) tells me that Moldstad did not consult with the faculty at Bethany College. Moldstad might have been wise to do so as there is a reservoir of talent and experience there that would have helped him. The faculty consists of bright men and women with experience in civic work, military service, academics, and synodical board service.

I think that the suspension power which Moldstad has under the by-laws of the synod would necessitate that an emergency be present. No such emergency existed, as I understand emergency. No one was denying the Trinity or any essential doctrine of the Church.

Preus said that he did not agree with what the synod had done the previous summer and that he would not be bound by the resolutions. It was that that prompted his suspension by President Moldstad.

There may have been a personal animus between the two men. President Moldstad comes from the yeomanry of the Evangelical Lutheran Synod. The yeomen faithfully serve the congregations in which they are called to serve. The yeoman may not have felt comfortable with a man who came from a family of lords, spiritual and temporal.

To further indicate to me that it was not an emergency, I consider that the synodical resolutions did not pass the 2005 convention with an overwhelming majority. In fact, the vote was close. Furthermore, Preus was not the only one to object to the resolutions. There are some 25 other pastors and 15 laymen who have publicly stated their disagreement.

President Moldstad was not unanimously elected to the ELS presidency in 2006 and this would further suggest that the Evangelical Lutheran Synod is less than unanimous on the issues and personalities of those involved in the present case.

President Moldstad probably consulted with people who encouraged him to suspend Preus. These people were not the academically trained of the Synod. I think that President Moldstad probably consults with people that he feels comfortable with. He probably consults with people who have had the same educational experiences as he has had.

He would also consult with others who have supported the past administration of the ELS. These would not be the academics from Bethany College.

There is a topographical divide on the Bethany Campus. On one side of the divide, the Elm Street Hill, is the Seminary and the Synod HQ on Browns Court. On the other side of the divide is the College. The two campuses are linked by Browns Court Road.

For many years the Seminary did not have any of the professors teach in the Seminary, even though they were fully qualified to do so. This was something of a scandal since there were Bethany College professors who were more qualified to teach in the Seminary than some of the seminary professors.

One of the glaring examples of this deficiency was Professor Dan Metzger. Metzger had a PhD from Marquette and should have been teaching in the seminary. He wasn't because, I believe, he could not be counted on to promote the specific interests of the administration. Metzger is now gone.

In recent years the Board of Regents, after President Moldstad had moved from the Seminary faculty to the synodical Presidency, took a firmer control of the situation so that college professors are no longer excluded from teaching in the Seminary.

Had President Moldstad done some consulting with the faculty of Bethany College, he might have learned that suspension was not the only way to proceed with the problem. I think that the ones who advised Moldstad were those who shared his vision of what the Synod should do and how it should proceed. I think that the pastors of those congregations who so quickly voted recommendations of support for President Moldstad were those who advised President Moldstad to suspend.

I continue to believe that President John Moldstad is a faithful Christian pastor and administrator who is deserving of the highest respect. I believe that Pastor Rolf Preus is also a faithful Christian pastor.

It is most unfortunate that this situation should have developed within the Evangelical Lutheran Synod at this time.
Posted 21st July 2006 by Norman Teigen"



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GJ - Norman Teigen was ordered to stop blogging, and he definitely had the most interesting blog around. Paul McCain had a special laser beam of hate aimed at Teigen, a retired teacher. Infallible popes do not like the truth.

 Note the reference above to Pope John's education - minimal,
not even a bachelor's degree when he was called to teach
New Testament at the Little Schoolhouse on the Prairie.
Readers - name another UOJ fanatic with no college degree.
Answer - Bishop Martin Stephan, STD, founder of the LCMS.
Pope John finished up his BA degree, so he does have
an undergraduate degree. Whew!

Lutheran Clericalism Suffers Badly from Their Doctrine of Infallibility

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Reading in context makes all the difference
between pixelating a phrase like "raised for our justification"
and understanding the Word of God.

Pope John 22 - not often mentioned - wisely rejected the Roman Catholic doctrine of infallibility, which some were promoting. He knew it would bind him to previous decisions and decrees.

Centuries later, a weakened and stumbling papacy insisted on papal infallibility, and Vatican I affirmed what Pope Pius IX wanted.

As I have shown many times before, WELS and LCMS have a history of teaching Justification by Faith and not UOJ - Justification without Faith.

Now that they are committed to clergy infallibility, the "conservative" Lutheran synods have to keep piling on more essays about their precious UOJ, even though they refuted themselves by citing Romans 4 - and even by citing anything from the Bible.





WELS has about 60 or so essays on their Satanic dogma of UOJ. The Emmaus Hootenanny will add more.

WELS Professor John "Sparky" Brenner will present at Emmaus. His nickname should be "Spineless."

  • When I asked Brenner about Valleskey's essay - that drooled over Church Growth and lied in his claim about Evangelicals "downplaying the Means of Grace" - Spineless said, "Write a letter." I asked whether the faculty had any responsibility for their Wisconsin Lutheran Quarterly. Frau Brenner scowled at me during the conversation, like, "How dare you question an infallible professor at Mordor!"
  • By the way, when I published an essay in Christian News, taking apart Valleskey's Figs From Thistles essay, the Bethany Seminary faculty jumped all over Little Ichabod, as if he wrote it. I never heard from those weasels at all.  [By the way - Valleksey admitted to David Koenig, CLC, that he did attend Fuller Seminary, as Bivens did, but Valleskey lied about it when I asked him directly.]
  • When two students went to speak to Spineless about the abuses of GA, the secretive hazing ritual at Mordor, the Dean defended GA, saying, "It has good benefits too."
  • After one prospective student was sexually assaulted by a student when visiting the Mordor campus, he complained about it to Brenner. The response was "You are too thin-skinned."
  • Anyone who complains to Brenner will find himself pushed out of the seminary program, as were all three students mentioned above - and yes, I know about these incidents from them.
  • Spineless needed remedial work before he was accepted into the doctoral program at UW. WELS has such a superior educational program that no one recognizes it.
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The 10th Annual Emmaus Conference is Friday, April 28th, 2017, with a banquet the evening prior on Thursday, April 27th. The topic for the 2017 Emmaus Conference will be: “The Unsuspecting American Luthers”. The backgrounds, challenges, and impact of several Lutheran theologians in the 20th Century will be explored and discussed.
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