These three have grown fatter, not wiser, in office. |
Alan Lubeck (1431) Senior Member Username: 1431 Post Number: 2007 Registered: 11-2004 |
Were not talking outward here. You change the Gospel to something else...something compatible to the likes of the ELCA, then the church is dead. There's only one Gospel that gives life...and church growth gimmicks that take the focus off Word and Sacrament ain't it. | ||
Daniel Gorman (Heinrich) Senior Member Username: Heinrich Post Number: 4084 Registered: 11-2004 |
Yes, apostate "churches" may appear to thrive in terms of "nickels and noses" but, inwardly, they are spiritually dead. They have the outward marks of apostasy from the gospel (Gal. 1: 6-9). | ||
Daniel Gorman (Heinrich) Senior Member Username: Heinrich Post Number: 4085 Registered: 11-2004 |
Pr. Preus: "To speak at a conference where heterodox speakers will be speaking implies no fellowship with them. On the other hand, if you speak at a conference that features a woman who is identified as a pastor you might be implying that you acknowledge her to be a pastor. If so, your confession has been compromised." What about a male "pastor" of an apostate ELCA congregation that worships the feminist god rather than the Holy Trinity? If a speaker is introduced as a "Reverend", wouldn't the term "Reverend" necessarily imply a heterodox speaker is the pastor of a Christian church? |
The Path to Understanding Justification provoked an immediate, multi-synod, coordinated attack, but Jeske's gay liberation abortion sales-pitch barely gets a mild, tentative, languid, half-hearted, apathetic response from LQ. The rest of the mild-Lutheran forums are silent. |
The Road Well-Traveled
Two roads converged in a woods, and we—We ran towards Hell with pious glee.
And that has made all the difference.
(Apologies to Robert Frost)
The current disaster may not be much different from previous ones, where the truth of the Reformation was swallowed up in lies, distortions, corruption, and mass murder. But time may be running out for this evil, adulterous generation, for Planet Earth.
Recent months have witnessed a multi-pronged attack on Justification by Faith, using Christian News, LutherQuest (sic), and the Judas Goat skills of WELS Pastor Steve Spencer.
The collective wisdom of Team Spencer could not develop a coherent reply to the Scriptures - Genesis 15:6, Romans 4, Galatians - but made a lot of noise trying, then fell silent.
The unfortunate truth is that the Pietism of the older ELCA traditions has merged with the Pietism of the Walther-Stephan sex cult, which brought Objective Justification and syphilis to St. Louis and Perryville, Missouri.
If I complete the booklet on Lutherdom in America, it will show how Pietism united them all and ultimately merges them de facto in the current Thrivent-Siebert-Jeske Triple Alliance.
Is everyone deaf to the hysteria generated by the Objective Justification Stormtroopers and the ennui expressed about the Two Heidis ELCA-LCMS-WELS-ELS Change or Die! fiasco?
ELCA Pastor Heidi Neumark will teach WELS and LCMS pastors and laity how to follow her example. |
ELCA Bishop Guy Erwin and his husband Rob Flynn |
Keep diversity selective to make it work its magic. |
Sammy graduated transgender from the WELS School of Ministry, Martin Luther College in New Ulm. |
Decades of coordinated work have yielded the Evan-jellyfish of Church and Change, promoted to Change or Die! |