Friday, April 22, 2011

LP Cruz, Calvinism, Universal Grace

L. P. Cruz, PhD, math.




I have been away for so long in these Calvinist and Arminian categories. People use the word Grace elastically. It is used as a place word for love etc etc.


However, by enlarge, in Calvinism, universal grace means universal salvation. It is said that Calvinism believe in universal grace but is limited by the atonement. Calvinism believe in universal salvation but if you are not one of those Jesus died for you are not included in it. This is how the term is being used.


For a discussion of this, see the entry on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyraldism. In this entry you will see what universal grace means in Calvinism. See the quote below with notes in parens (which are mine BTW).


And his[Amyraut's] opponents allowed that the idea of a universal grace, by which [universal grace that is] no one was actually saved unless included in the particular, effective decree of election, was permissible. In this way hypothetical universalism was sanctioned as a permissible view, along with the particularism that had characterized historic Reformed orthodoxy, and a schism in the French Church was avoided
Therefore here, grace and being saved is the same.


Because Atonement and Justification are the same in Calvinism, Amyraut's view ( he affirmed TU(L)IP except the L), is called hypothetical universalism. Can we see how this category mixes and collapses concepts?


Indeed, here is a site which discusses universal grace and universal atonement in the same breath and concludes in biblical universalism


http://www.spiritofgrace.us/gracestudies/saving-grace.html


This group affirms universal grace (universal justification) and universal atonement.

You can then ask LIndee, how is his Lutheranism different from this group since he uses the same Calvinistic categories together in one sentence.


In fact, this is a Calvinistic way characterizing Lutheranism - using the words universal grace and universal atonement in the same sentence.


Lorraine Boetner a Reformed Theologian of long ago, used the same terms together to describe and characterize Lutheranism .


Goodness, shall we accept the description of Lutheranism from a Calvinist? I would like to vomit on this guy's coffee.


I agree with you, I do think, Lindee's piece can be made to enlarge and welcome the entry of UOJ on the scene, such that anyone who denied UOJ like the Ichabodians, will be branded right away as a Calvinist.


LPC

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GJ - I am adding this from a source:

What follows is a quote from the Heick entry in Bodensieck (volume 1, pp. 164-165, The Lutheran Awakening ):

The anti-nomistic tendencies of Grundtvigianism were shared by a movement named after the Danish island of Bornholm on which, for a time, it gained a special foothold(P.C.→Trandberg, who later moved to Chicago, →Rosenius, →Hedberg; v.i.). The theology of these men is marked by a one-sided emphasis on the Gospel of free grace. They practically identified reconciliation and justification, "The world is justified in Christ" (objective justification).