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| Knapp smiles at young Hale for endorsing the Calvinist translator's terms used for his Pietistic theology lectures - OJ and SJ. Calvin does not smile since Calvinists are almost as grim and humorless as OJists. |
Hale's Rash, Raging, Reckless Thoughts on Defending OJ!
"It is satanic that people like Gregory Jackson and Paul Rydecki have used misleading and complicating rational arguments, incorrect biblical interpretation, and misleading historical evidence to make this such a difficult issue to grasp today. They attack and obscure Scripture, rather than clarify it, though. (This is why they hate and refuse to deal directly with 2 Cor. 5:19, since it is so clear and helpful on this issue.) In the same way, the 1979 Kokomo theses were uncarefully drawn up to make light of and mock objective justification, not to defend it or help bring about a right understanding." p. 6, 11-04-2019 CN.
Pastor Rydecki should object in print to the guilt by association logical fallacy hurled by Hale.
Hale spends a lot of time raving, almost no time in thoughtful meditation about the Scriptures, especially Genesis 15:6 and Romans 4-5:2. Both passages would do wonders for his nerves, his sermons, and his writing.
I could list the books I have written specifically about OJ being a rejection of Justification by Faith. Thy Strong Word - in the year 2000, before Hale was in seminary - convinced Bishop Heiser that OJ was no good, and he distributed my book. I can tell that Hale has not read much of anything and has no capacity to reflect upon what he might have studied. Since all my books are available for free and are in the public domain, I feel no need to provide a Justification for Dummies book for young Hale.
I hope Hale keeps writing, because each conniption fit provides addition support for the frailty and futility of OJ - the notion that God declared - in a place unrecorded - that the entire unbelieving world was absolved of all sin and saved.
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| Make a decision for OJ! - just like Pope Walther. |
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| Church Growth loves OJ. |
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| Not faith in Christ, but faith in world absolution. |
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| Rambach, Pietism, and OJ. |
Kokomo - Not a Place You Want To Go
Unlike Hale and other liars about Kokomo, I visited the place and spoke with the two men whose families were kicked out of WELS.
Hale's repetition of the WELS Kokomo deception does not do him credit for any research. The two men gave me xerox copies of the letters sent to them, kicking them out of WELS. That was affirmed upon appeal by Armin Panning.
First of all, the four statements were -
- Statements1- 3, These are almost word for word from JP Meyer's Ministers of God, a book reissued, edited by Panning, with the same errors.
- Statement 4 - This came from a dispute between Augustana and the Norwegian Pietists, the Norwegians favoring OJ.
The WELS liars, including the sainted Carl Mischke, keep trying to convince people they do not like or endorse these statements, which they have reprinted with pride, satisfaction, and glee.
I noticed that Ruprecht spoke up in favor of Papenfuss, who started the Kokomo furor. Papenfuss told the two men that he had never heard of Objective Justification, the first time hearing it at Mequon. As people must know by now, the original Gausewitz catechism taught Justification by Faith for decades, just as the LCMS (but not Pope Walther) taught Justification by Faith and switched over time - quite dishonestly.
The two men wrote down three statements from JP Meyer and Papenfuss added the fourth statement. They asked Papenfuss, "Is this what WELS teaches?" Papenfuss said yes and kicked them out.
Nota bene - The excommunication letter specifically kicks out the families for NOT endorsing all four Kokomo Statements.
From Thy Strong Word -
Exposing the Kokomo Error The Kokomo conflict began in July, 1978, in Kokomo, Indiana, at Faith Lutheran Church, WELS, served at that time by Pastor Charles Papenfuss, who was newly called to the congregation. When the parable of the Prodigal Son was being discussed by David Hartman for the upcoming Vacation Bible School, Pastor Papenfuss argued that the story “taught that God the Father has pronounced the entire world of lost sinners forgiven of all sins and that at the time of Christ’s suffering, death and resurrection gave unto all sinners the ‘status of saints’… Pastor Papenfuss said that even Judas and all people in hell were declared righteous, holy, innocent of all sin and given the ‘status of saints.’ He said that they too were declared to be guilt-free saints at the time of the resurrection of Christ.”232 Hartman was surprised at the pastor’s statements and asked if that was the teaching of the WELS seminary. Papenfuss said it was. The pastor recommended J. P. Meyer’s Ministers of Christ to David Hartman. The conflict continued and the congregation voted on June 20, 1979, to endorse the four statements quoted below and to suspend the Hartman and Pohlman families from membership.
The Kokomo Statements, 1979
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I. "Objectively speaking, without any reference to an individual sinner's attitude toward Christ's sacrifice, purely on the basis of God's verdict, every sinner, whether he knows it or not, whether he believes it or not, has received the status of saint." II. "After Christ's intervention and through Christ's intervention God regards all sinners as guilt-free saints."
III. "When God reconciled the world to Himself through Christ, He individually pronounced forgiveness to each individual sinner whether that sinner ever comes to faith or not."
IV. "At the time of the resurrection of Christ, God looked down in hell and declared Judas, the people destroyed in the flood, and all the ungodly, innocent, not guilty, and forgiven of all sin and gave unto them the status of saints."
The letter sent to the two families quoted the statements and declared that the families were being expelled for denying them. Certain people have tried to confuse the issue by claiming the statements were made up by the expelled families to parody WELS doctrine. Three statements are almost verbatim from J. P. Meyer’s Ministers of Christ, now out of print. The fourth statement came from a controversy in the 19th century but was added by Pastor Papenfuss to the previous statements from J. P. Meyer. Although WELS has often backed away from the Kokomo statements, the synod continues to defend the content and reproduce the most obnoxious falsehoods found in them. The Evangelical Lutheran Synod teaches Kokomo justification in their seminary. After a layman wrote to Bethany Seminary professor John Moldstad Jr., the following statements appeared in the Evangelical Lutheran Synod Lutheran Sentinel:
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“When Paul uses the word ‘reconciling’ here, [2 Corinthians 5:19] he clearly means that forgiveness of sins is really imputed to ‘the world.’John Moldstad, Jr., “I have heard some Lutherans say they do not believe the Bible teaches objective justification. How can they assert this and still call themselves ‘Lutheran’?” Lutheran Sentinel, October, 1996, p. 11. [GJ - This was not what my friend wrote to LS, and he was angry that the future Pope John reversed the wording to make a case for OJ.]
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Letters to the Hartman and Pohlman Families
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“Faith Lutheran Church 3215 West Judson Road Kokomo, Indiana 46901
August 30, 1979
Mr. and Mrs. David Hartman R. R. #1, Box 90 Kokomo, Indiana 46901
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Hartman,
In response to your letter of August 18, 1979, it is our understanding that your ‘no’ vote on June 20th against supporting the biblical doctrine of the WELS was based at least in part, on your failure to accept the following statement – included in your letter – all of which are in agreement with the teachings of the WELS, namely that: 1. ‘Objectively speaking, without any reference to an individual sinners’ [sic] attitude toward Christs’ [sic] sacrafice [sic], purely on the basis of God’s verdict, every sinner, whether he knows it or not, whether he believes it or not, has received the status of a saint.’ 2. ‘After Christs’ [sic] intervention and through Christs’ [sic] intervention, God regards all sinners as guilt-free saints.’ 3. ‘When God reconciled the world to Himself through Christ, He individually pronounced forgiveness to each individual sinner whether that sinner ever comes to faith or not.’ 4. ‘At the time of the resurrection of Christ God looked down in hell and declared Judas, the people destroyed in the flood, and all the ungodly, innocent, not guilty, and forgiven of all sin and gave unto them the status of saints.’
I trust this is the information you desire.
Sincerely yours in Christian love,
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Michael Liebner, Acting Secretary Faith Lutheran Church Voters’ Assembly”238
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“Faith Lutheran Church 3215 West Judson Road Kokomo, Indiana 46901
November 19, 1980
Mr. and Mrs. David Hartman R. R. #1, Box 90 Kokomo, Indiana 46901
Dear Mr. and Mrs. Hartman,
In accordance with the recommendations of the Southeastern Wisconsin District Panel of Review the voters of the Faith Lutheran Church have approved a resolution terminating your membership in the congregation unless and until such time as you accept the doctrine of justification as practiced by the WELS.
We encourage you to reassess your position on this matter and pray for a favorable decision so that once again we can work together for His Kingdom.
Yours in Christ,
Michael Liebner, Secretary”
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| He was wrong of course. Just pick up the German materials from the Missouri Synod and Gausewitz' Small Catechism. |
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"The first three statements are taken verbatim from WELS sources." Siegbert Becker, "Objective Justification," Chicago Pastoral Conference, WELS, Elgin, Illinois, November 9, 1982, Unpaginated.Every reader of this chapter is invited to compare the first three Kokomo Statements with the corresponding verbatim quotations from J. P. Meyer’s Ministers of Christ, cited below. The fourth statement emerged from an earlier debate on the subject, in the 19th century, and not directly from J. P. Meyer’s book. That fact is irrelevant, since the pastor and the Wisconsin Synod included the rejection of the fourth statement as part of the reason for excommunicating the two couples. The fourth Kokomo statement was written by Pastor Papenfuss, included as a reason for expelling both families, defended by the circuit pastor Al Siggelkow, upheld by Armin Panning....
