Check Cyberstones for evidence of LCMS infant communion obsession. One of the posts says, "I was talking to an Eastern Orthodox friend of mine, and he said..." Oh yes - my EO friend who graduated from The Fort, center of rock-ribbed Lutheran doctrine.
Click here for Gary Gehlbach's infant communion website.
Here is the faux-Augustana Ministerium, the cubic zirconia of Lutheran confessionalism:
Rev. Robert Schaibley, Superintendent; Rev. Dr. Kent Heimbigner, Legate; Rev. Gary Gehlbach, Recording Secretary; Rev. Gregory Schultz, Bursar; Rev. Eric Stefanski, Dean of Communications; Rev. Dr. Steven Hein, Dean of Education; Rev. James Heiser, Dean of Missions; Rev. Michael Liese, Dean of Pastoral Care; Rev. Drew Newman, Dean of Pastoral Recruitment. Faux-Augustana overlaps ELDONA, so the nano-group with the superfluity of mini-bishops must be the farm team for ELDONA.
"Join now and you could become the Gauleiter of North Dakota."
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saxoniae has left a new comment on your post "Obsession with Infant Communion":
I'll admit that I'm really scared of LCMS pastors who keep bringing up infant communion. Pr. Petersen posted on his blog back in early 2007 in response to Rev. McCain's disagreement with infant communion:
"Newsflash1: people have questions about this. Newsflash2: the Confessions haven't addressed it as directly or fully as you claim."
I replied to him that people have questions about this only because certain pastors who want it keep bringing it up.
I didn't get a response to that.
But what is your problem with Augustana Ministerium? Last I heard it was an organization providing financial support for faithful pastors who had been "fired" from their Calls.
Timothy C. Schenks
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GJ - Hmm. I thought you read my post. Faux-Augustana is another lobby for Eastern Orthodoxy.
Heart-thumps for EO include many other aspects for this non-confessional, high church fad. I am not against formal liturgical worship, but I do question the integrity of men who call themselves Lutheran (as Neuhaus and Fenton did) up to the point where they tear away the mask and own up to their foreign allegiance.
Motley Magpie is another, tediously superior, EO stalking horse.
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I'll admit that I'm really scared of LCMS pastors who keep bringing up infant communion. Pr. Petersen posted on his blog back in early 2007 in response to Rev. McCain's disagreement with infant communion:
"Newsflash1: people have questions about this. Newsflash2: the Confessions haven't addressed it as directly or fully as you claim."
I replied to him that people have questions about this only because certain pastors who want it keep bringing it up.
I didn't get a response to that.
But what is your problem with Augustana Ministerium? Last I heard it was an organization providing financial support for faithful pastors who had been "fired" from their Calls.
Timothy C. Schenks
I did read your post. I don't agree that the Augustana Ministerium having members who are also in ELDONA means it leads to EO. I like what the Augustana Ministerium (and Confraternity) is doing, but I do not support ELDONA or Eastern Orthodoxy.
Timothy C. Schenks
Luther encouraged parents to bring their children with them to Holy Communion. He almost demanded it. In Bente’s Historical Introduction to the Confessions, IX. Small & Large Catechism, 104. Special Purpose of Small Catechism, page 89 of my digital copy, he quotes Luther’s sermon of 12/19/1528, in which Luther says, “Hence, do come more frequently to the Sacrament, and also admonish your children to do so when they have reached the age of discretion.”
It was Bugenhagen, a decade later in a Preface to a Danish Enchiridion, who said, “that after this confession is made, also the little children of about eight years or less should be admitted to the table of Him who says: ‘Suffer the little children to come unto Me,’ ”
The “but” in this situation is Luther’s admonition that fathers begin to teach their children the Small Catechism as soon as they can memorize a standard text, and that, as they get older, the children are taught the meaning of the SC. The parents, then, are best able to determine the “age of discretion”.
In any case, infants cannot yet memorize, nor do they exercise much discretion, as we parents who have cleaned up assorted messes have learned. All this sort of puts the kibosh on infant communion, at least in my book.
Any interest in starting a betting pool on the next LCMS Lufauxran pastor to swim the Bosphorus or Tiber? Looks like you've got some choices; but don't get them confused with Loehe loyalists.
If you don't want to mention names, use their blogger ID. ;-)
You may want to read this book http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Initiation-Baptism-Medieval-West/dp/1595250018
It historically traces how that the undivided Church of East and West gave communion to infants for most of the first millenium.
Fr. Daniel Hackney
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