Buchholz Identifies with Halle Pietist Rambach's False Doctrine

Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Johann Gerhard - Another Justification by Faith Th...":

I'm reading Buchholz' 2012 UOJ essay that you link above. He's certainly trying to address every refutation of UOJ that has been published - and fails miserably. Here he states that Gerhard and Rambach teach UOJ.

Buchholz, 

“But even some pietists were able to articulate the universal and objective nature of justification correctly. Johann Jakob Rambach (1693-1735)42 is sometimes flamed in the blogosphere today as one of the supposed inventors of universal objective justification, but in fact he taught in accord with the orthodox Johann Gerhard on the matter of vicarious justification in Christ, and he wrote nothing different than what Luther himself had written against the heavenly prophets in 1525 regarding justification acquired and justification appropriated. Rambach writes:

Christ was in His resurrection first of all justified for His own Person, Is. 50:5, 1 Tim. 3:16, since the righteousness of God declared that it had been paid and satisfied in full by this our Substitute, and issued Him as it were a receipt thereof, and that happened in His resurrection, when He was released from His Debtor's prison and set free. But since the Substitute was now justified, then in him also all debtors were co-justified" (Ausführliche Erklärung der Epistel an die Römer, p. 322). The same to Rom. 5:19: "The justification of the human race indeed also occurred, in respect to the acquisition, in one moment, in the moment in which Christ rose and was thus declared righteous; but in respect of the appropriation it still continues till the last day" (Ibid., p. 386) [italics and references in the original].43 Page 17

More on Pietist Rambach (Halle alumnus, along with Muhlenberg, Bishop Martin Stephan STD, Schleiermacher, and Hoenecke) here:
http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/2012/05/quenstedt-died-today-may-22-1688-he.html  [GJ - slight edit on who went to Halle University, center of Pietism and Rationalism. The Piepers went to another Pietistic school, Northwestern College, Watertown.]

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Johann Gerhard - Another Justification by Faith Th...":

Compare Buchholz to Gerhard's quote I posted above:

Buchholz, 

"We cannot help but be struck by the parallel structure of Paul’s sentence. He lays out side by side the condemnation of all through the transgression of Adam and the justification of all through the work of Christ. The judgment in each case is both objective and universal. Whether a sinner acknowledges it, or not, he stands condemned through Adam’s sin; the sin and condemnation are an objective and universal reality, regardless of personal perception. Whether a sinner acknowledges it, or not, he was acquitted through Christ’s work; the atonement and accompanying not-guilty verdict are an objective and universal reality, regardless of personal perception.
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Make a decision for UOJ -
Buchholz is recycling J. P. Meyer's false doctrine,
which Buchholz once claimed to reject.
But Buchholz was also against Gunn and Rick Johnson...supposedly.

Nixie Dixit Before Jon Locutus Est, Causa Finita Est

Irrelevant but funny.

Daryl Meyer has left a new comment on your post "The Authorities Cited Also Determine the Outcome o...":

Indeed, there's nothing new under the sun. There was a "Nixie dixit" long before there was ever a "Jon locutus est". (Nixie being JPM's nickname - for those not in the loop.)

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GJ - I hope I added the dash in the right place, Daryl. Without it, Nixie was the nickname for those not in the loop. Cf - Eats, Shoots, And Leaves.

  

Here is an interesting episode from today. On Facebook, The Sausage Factory asked how many hours were spent studying the Scriptures during seminary. I am on that thread, so I wrote, "That's easy - none."

One of my Evangelical friends was started and asked about it on the thread. No one else was answering. Stormtroopers have to sleep it off for a long time.

I explained about denying justification by faith and getting rid of pastors who taught that.

He said, "I didn't know there were Lutheran Unitarians."

My last words were, "Watch them remove all these remarks." A few minutes later, they were all erased and I no longer could write a comment.

The Wisconsin Sect Ignores the Good Parts of J. P. Meyer's Ministers of Christ

"The type of minister to which we referred above as using entertainment in order to lure the people is employing panourgia, and is therefore guilty of committing secret things of disgrace. The Gospel is the word of Truth. To resort to ruses in proclaiming it, even though with the best of intentions, is heaping shame on the Truth. Not only are the truth and lures incompatible in their nature, but to use lures in connection with the Gospel ministry treats the Truth, the eternal Truth of God, as though it were inefficient, not attractive enough in itself."
John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ, A Commentary on the Second Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, Milwaukee: Northwestern Publishing House, 1963, pp. 62. 2 Corinthians 4:2.

"Because such is Paul's ministry, he cannot, on the one hand, stoop to trickery or an adulteration of the Word, to practice the hidden things of shame; nor can he, on the other hand, ever grow weary of administering so wholesome and glorious an office."
John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ, 1963, p. 65. 2 Corinthians 4:2.

"What he has to announce is not designed to lead men to a deeper understanding of nature, it is not science; nor to train them in the rules of hygiene, to produce a more healthy population; nor to teach them to procure greater wealth, or to get more satisfaction and enjoyment out of life; it is not even to elevate them to more idealistic views and to morally cleaner habits. No, he addresses himself strictly to the troubled consciences, promising them relief and peace."
John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ, 1963, p. 65. 2 Corinthians 4:2.


"The very fact that we, being such cheap and fragile implements, continue in our service unbroken is proof of the excellency of God's power, and is an incentive to renewed cheerful efforts on our part."
John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ,, 1963, p. 72. 2 Corinthians 4:7.


"Paul...is speaking about methods of preaching the Gospel. He means to say that you can introduce methods into your Gospel work which on the surface do not appear as shameful, but which in reality disgrace the Gospel. He is harking back to 2:17, where he spoke about kapeleuein, about 'selling' the Gospel. To use a coarse illustration: Some ministers in their eagerness to bring the Gospel to the people, resort to entertainment to attract the crowds, in order to get an opportunity to preach to them. If you would tell such ministers that they are ashamed of the Gospel and that by their methods they disgrace it, because they manifest a lack of trust in its efficacy, they would resent the charge. Are they not doing all in order to promote the Gospel? The disgrace their methods bring upon it does not appear on the surface; that is why Paul speaks of secret things of shame."
John P. Meyer, Ministers of Christ,1963, pp. 62f. 2 Corinthians 4:1-6; 2:17.

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Panourgia means craftiness, as Lenski explained:

Crafty conduct is paired with “adulterating the Word of God.” These two ever go together. He who is not honest with himself will not be overhonest with the Word. The reverse is also true—and the writer may be permitted to say that he has witnessed it too often—he who is not really honest with the Word cannot be trusted very far with his conduct. Δολόω = to catch with bait, to fix up something so as to deceive and to catch somebody. It is used with regard to adulterating wine. So here: “adulterating the Word of God,” not leaving it pure lest people reject it but falsifying it to catch the crowd. Of all the dastardly deeds done in the world this is the most dastardly. None is more criminal nor more challenging to God himself. Not adulterating the Word of God had its edge against the falsifiers who had come to Corinth, who also cast aspersions upon the genuineness of Paul’s teaching.

Lenski, R. C. H.: The Interpretation of St. Paul's First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians. Minneapolis, MN. : Augsburg Publishing House, 1963, S. 955.


KJV 2 Corinthians 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness (panourgia), nor handling the word of God deceitfully (Δολόω); but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.

KJV Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with
every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness (panourgia), whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

Lenski again on craftiness:
ΙΙανουργία is the ability to do anything, and this word is used in the evil sense of stooping to use the basest means, any and all such means, to gain one’s evil ends—“craftiness.” The outstanding example is the serpent and his deception of Eve in the Garden of Eden; ἐκ in the verb intensifies: “completely deceived.” Jesus used the same example in John 8:44. It is so effective because it is the first deception that entered our world, and because its results were so terrible. All other deceptions are the repetitions of this original, most fatal one, are the outcome of this radical deception.

Lenski, R. C. H.: The Interpretation of St. Paul's First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians. Minneapolis, MN. : Augsburg Publishing House, 1963, S. 1238.

KJV 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty (craftiness, panourgia), so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

Lenski on hucksters:

He certainly chose a telling word when he describes the many as (peddling the Word of God) καπηλεύοντες τὸν λόγον τοῦ Θεοῦ. A κάπηλος is a huckster, which is suggestive in a number of directions. He peddles cheap wares, he haggles about the price, he is known to cheat because he does not expect to return, he is out for his own personal gain. The ancient hucksters, for instance, peddled wine and adulterated it so that the verb that is derived from this noun came to mean adulterating wine, food, and the like. Philosophers used it a few times in characterizing the sophists as spurious philosophers; Paul is thought to adopt this use here. “Huckstering” is too common for such a restriction; Paul is not speaking philosophically to philosophers. He is using a word which everybody understands, a homely figure.

Lenski, R. C. H.: The Interpretation of St. Paul's First and Second Epistle to the Corinthians. Minneapolis, MN. : Augsburg Publishing House, 1963, S. 903.

KJV 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as many, which corrupt (GJ - peddle) the Word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.