Fuller Seminary Is No More Than a Business Turning Out Bachelor of Gimmicks Degrees

 

I always sit up straight and murmur something profound when I see that someone has earned a D.Min. at Fuller Seminary, which is as popular as Bud Lite. A Budweiser chemist told me that Bud Lite was simply Budweiser with water added. Years later, he denied that fact with some authority, but then conceded the truth. 

Fuller Seminary is pondering its future with pansexual pastors, where the demographics are headed. WWII Baby Boomers have seen their grandchildren grow up, so that supply is running low. Long ago, Fuller Seminary had its own kill squad to discipline any student who denied women's ordination. The school's warning was part of their official description. Fuller opened up the mainline minister demographic for women pastors and denominational staffers. 

"What's NEXT!?" my vicar supervisor often said with fury, upon hearing about the latest cool fad. Now the same church - being refitted for low-cost house apartments - is saying "What's next!"

Those who pay for a D. Min. degree insist on the title "Dr." - which is odd considering that two years of study are good only for an STM. They dropped the STD because nobody wanted to say "I got my STD at our seminary." 

Fuller sold the D.Min. designation to draw in pastors for a quick, easy, but costly superficial degree. They paraded their Bachelor of Gimmicks degree as worthy of velvet stripes on the arms of their Geneva gowns. 

Fuller and its clones (Concordia St. Louis and Concordia Ft. Wayne) both market their D.Min. degrees and Church Growth. 

They are all engaged in business practices which have proven to be complete and devastating losses of membership. Why are no Church Growth Enthusiasts 

• deprived of food
• driven out of town
• baited by dogs
• pelted with dung?

God's Word is the master of more than 100,000 arts, far more than Satan can attempt. The problems are compounded in the Walther Four - LCMS-WELS-ELS-CLC (sic) - because they teach against faith, as they argue with pride. Wayne Mueller bragged at the WELS youth gathering in Columbus - "Evangelism is easy. All you have to do is to tell them - you are already forgiven." 

Baptist News Global

Fuller Seminary’s current president, David Goatley, came to the nondenominational school in 2022 from Duke Divinity School, where he served as associate dean for academic and vocational formation, research professor of theology and Christian ministry, and director of the Office of Black Church Studies.

Recently, Goatley appointed a task force of administrators and faculty to facilitate “the community’s consideration of issues related to human sexuality.”

In 2019 and 2020, two former students sued Fuller, alleging they were expelled for being in same-sex marriages. In October 2020, courts affirmed Fuller’s right to uphold its sexual standards policy.

Fuller’s website describes the school as “an evangelical, multidenominational graduate institution committed to providing indispensable, formational education for diverse Christian leaders everywhere.”

Jack Kilcrease, trained by Jesuits, is consistently anti-faith.

Endorsements of Fuller Seminary - Comments From Free Republic

 

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In 2019 and 2020, two former students sued Fuller, alleging they were being expelled for being in same-sex marriages. In October 2020, courts upheld Fuller’s right to enforce its sexual standards policy. Its standards prohibit “homosexual forms of explicit sexual conduct” and hold that sexual intimacy is reserved for a marriage between a man and a woman.

They should be pondering how to please God............

I have thought that Fuller Seminary was a bit on the liberal side. Like other infiltrators into the evangelical church, they are using word salad about a “third way” to justify defying Biblical standards.

The apostasy is prophesied in the Bible.

Fuller, seemingly once conservative.

I heard some stuff from one of their graduates back in the mid-1990s.

From another guy - we knew this other guy - he came out with less Faith than when he went in.

Phase 1: In the name of "diversity," allow openly LGBTQ+ students and faculty.

Phase 2: In the name of "diversity," ban students and faculty who adhere to traditional, Biblical views of marriage and sexuality.

Such a decision would carry Fuller into uncharted territory, Hawthorne said. “It’s a bold step.....

..straight into the pit of Hell. The heck with what God says. Hail Satan!”

That’s pretty much their attitude.

We're watching it happen.

Fuller Ponders Gay Ministers? WELS-LCMS Are Way Ahead of Them

 

I was observing during GA - their hazing routine - when the GA Pope (now a district president) dressed gay, many years ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Fuller Theological Seminary, an evangelical school in Pasadena, California, is deliberating whether to become more open to LGBTQ+ students who previously faced possible expulsion if found to be in a same-sex union. Fuller Theological Seminary, an evangelical school in Pasadena, California, is deliberating whether to become more open to LGBTQ+ students who previously faced possible expulsion if found to be in a same-sex union. That’s according to a draft of proposed revisions to the seminary’s sexual standards that was obtained by The Associated Press.

If the board votes to approve these revisions, Fuller could become the first evangelical seminary in the country to adopt standards acknowledging the diversity of thought among Christians pertaining to human sexuality, according to retired professor John Hawthorne, an expert on Christian colleges.

WELS college students were so proud of plagiarizing Party in Fire Island Pines that they uploaded it to  YouTube and bragged out how popular it was, many years ago.

Such a decision would carry Fuller into uncharted territory, Hawthorne said. “It’s a bold step for a school that fought off lawsuits on this very issue a few years ago.”

At the same time, several current and former students and faculty believe this move would preserve Fuller’s existing status as a “third space” where Christians with diverse views on sexuality are welcome — a space that has been shrinking nationally amid increasing political polarization on the issue.

No one seemed to be offended by a WELS congregation cross-dressing at a public congregational party, with Wayne Mueller's son participating. The sect, like LCMS and ELCA, loved to fund Fuller Seminary for oh-so-great Church Growth insights - and denied that too.

Fuller issued a statement Thursday saying the deliberations on this topic are ongoing and drafts of possible revisions have been created solely for discussion and reflection. It says no proposals have been submitted to trustees for a vote and it is unclear when the board might even consider the matter.

Hawthorne, whose upcoming book argues that Christian colleges should put students front and center instead of worrying about critics, anticipates “significant blowback” from conservative Christians should Fuller move forward with the revisions.

“I hope they have a plan on how to manage the aftermath, the storm, when it comes,” he said.

Don't ask what they did with to sprinter statue during hazing at Northwestern College, the statue moved to Martin Luther College to continue that tradition. "Nothing happened!" is the theme song of hazing in WELS.

Men in cheerleading uniforms? That's Michigan Lutheran Seminary, which is neither a seminary nor Lutheran.

Martin Luther College graduate.

The Haunting of the Big Five - ELCA-LCMS-WELS-ELS-CLC (sic)

 

Also ELCA-ELS-CLC (sic)

The Photoshop above is not the Sistine Chapel ceiling, but it does convey the Big Five's love for every single expression of faith... except their own. See if you can find these notorious apostates, starting with Archbishop Weakland, who was invited to give a public speech (with some of his priests helping) at Wisconsin Lutheran College. WELS managers (they have no leaders) ran around saying it never happened, that it was private, etc. Yes, they are too dumb to lie effectively.

 Andy Stanley is truly a man of all faiths, like Ski, loving every faith except his own.

On Weakland's left is that lovable son of Charles Stanley, Andy Stanley, addicted to huge numbers of ministers and managers paying him enormous sums to learn how he does it. One savvy Lutheran pastor pointed out how mega-church rallies like Andy's are a sure sign of decay.

Directly above Andy Stanley is Bill Hybels with former President Bill Clinton, both womanizers who got away with it for decades. But wait, Bill got tossed out on his ear, leaving the Big Five bereft of his magic at Willow Creek Community Church. Team Jackson visited his cross-free church, listened to his empty message, and ate at his overpriced food court. It is not hyperbole to mention that WELS salivated whenever they brought up the glory of Willow Creek, sending pastors there to learn the effective incantations of a snake-oil salesman. WELS paid the tuition for their underlings to savor the sin of worshiping with Hybels. That reminds me of Herman Melville's allegory, noting that Jonah was anxious to leave town on a fast ship. "But he swiftly calls away the Captain from that scent. ‘I’ll sail with ye,’—he says,—‘the passage money how much is that?—I’ll pay now.’ For it is particularly written, shipmates, as if it were a thing not to be overlooked in this history, ‘that he paid the fare thereof’ ere the craft did sail. And taken with the context, this is full of meaning." 

Nothing is quite as tragic or comical as Lawrence Otto Olson (WELS) denying that he ever went to Fuller Seminary. He actually visited the Godfather of Church Growth, Donald McGavran. This Lawrence of the Doctrinal Dessert pedaled his bike uphill to get there. McGavran's book is like the novel Dorothy Parker detested. "This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force." Dr. Olson has been the tip of the spear for WELS' Church Growth, anointed to leave his non-growing congregation (Love Park) to watch his little college and withering synod fade away.

Leonard Sweet was one of the strangest celebrities for all denominations.

 One pastor was openly and deeply offended that I pointed out his website's love for Sweet. 

 Groeschel put together a growth factory - not that it worked - enchanting more than one Lutheran to sign up for his sermons and trinkets.

No one says it better than C. Peter Wagner. He has been all over the spectrum, mostly in the Pentecostal spooky realm. Christina and I went to the library at Luther Seminary, where she dug up the Christianity Today magazine with the revealing quote, above. She also found the article that Cho (biggest church in the world, S. Korea) was kicked out of the Assemblies of God. "Where did you get that?" Christianity Today asked. I said, "From your magazine."

The Big Five Sects have prostrated themselves before Church Growth experts, many more than the ones I have noted above. They are not victims but the cause of the destruction. See below.

"Whee! DMins are on sale at Fuller Seminary. Let's get ours so we can be called Dr. for very little time served and lots of money spent!"

WELS Has Principals But No Principles - Questions About Wisconsin Lutheran High School and Principles

 

"As a WLHS alumnus and conference delegate, I have found this all to be a real head-scratcher. I encourage you to read this and the relevant attached data and try to draw your own conclusions. 

Having done so, I pose the following: If female suffrage and leadership are to be allowed in our Synod, why not go through the proper channels and rescind our existing doctrinal statements at Synod Convention?"

***

"It seems clear that WLHS is intent on deviating from long held doctrine and practice in the Wisconsin Synod. If I understand right, the "headship committee" is selected by the delegates which theoretically could be all female, and thus the headship committee is more for show than anything."

***

WELS always creates clouds of fog to obscure the Scriptures, and dealing with the fog only makes it worse, because of the sect's dishonesty.

The two adverbs in KJV 1 Timothy 2:12 are clear. 

"12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence."

The issues are teaching men and taking away authority from men.

Decades ago, the WELS managers (not leaders - they couldn't lead if they wanted to) surrendered to the feminists at Fuller Seminary. Any man attending that joke of a school had to silence himself about feminist demands. If not, those men would be counseled by a team of witches who would set them straight (implied) and kick them out (definitely). Most, if not all of the managers attended Fuller, loved it, and lied about going there. The world missionaries also went there. 

One WELS pastor said, "We have to use Fuller, because they have all the statistics for world missions!"

Moreover, the managers have been working with ELCA for decades, following the same corrupt principles, kissing up to Thrivent, of course.

WELS sent pastors to Willow Creek Community Church, where the senior pastor refused to use Bibles that were NOT feminist and chased women around the altar until he was finally caught and ejected. I recall one Ohio pastor just glowing about what he learned and stated, "We are following what Willow Creek had to say, that the bulletins should say visitors do not have to give during the offering." Free tuition to go! For some reason they never asked me to go to Willow Creek for free. When a pastor's son criticized Willow Creek at the late Northwestern College, the professor said, "Have you been there?!" The answer was "Yes." Change of subject.

Yay Fuller! Yay Willow Creek! Yay Thrivent! Yay ELCA!

Question for the exegetic genius groups in the WELS and LCMS sects - did they vote in the Apostolic Age? Maybe I am distorted by reading ancient history and studying Koine Greek - ongoing, not past tense. 1 Timothy 2:12 perfectly describes the LCMS during its Pentecostal illness. LCMS and WELS are masters or rather mistresses of avoiding the real issues.

Another Refuge Church - The Fragrance of Fuller Seminary Is in the Air

 

"BRENTON & RACHEL FESSLER are leading the RefugeOC movement. They have three cool kids:
Aubrey (b. 2006), Micah (b. 2008), and Hannah (b. 2010).

Brenton earned a bachelor's degree in Pastoral Leadership from Vanguard University (Costa Mesa) in 2002, a Master of Arts in Theology from Fuller Theological Seminary (Pasadena) in 2010, and is currently pursuing his Doctorate in Theological Ministry from Northern Baptist Seminary (Chicago, IL). [Didn't Sig Becker go there too? Yes, he did.]

Rachel also went to Vanguard University, graduated with a Liberal Studies degree and a teaching credential, and has been teaching elementary school since 2002. She currently teaches Kindergarten.

After spending nearly 12 years on staff at a great church in north Orange County, they learned the value of a local church and how to love and pastor a community. In 2014, Brenton & Rachel began to dream and wonder about one day starting a new church... because there is still good news to share!"

Advent Church in Oxford Massachusetts (Refuge Church) - Liberty Baptist University

WELS also dabbles in the Unstuck Church, one of the lamest ideas in church history.

Readers can bet that LCMS and ELCA are also tossing money and manpower at this new trend.

Efficacy - One Word To Cure the Ills of Christendom, None Dare Call It Effectual

Paul Kelm, the point man for the WELS Church Shrinkage Program, has destroyed more churches than the Chicago Fire.  

Tis funny how so many WELS leaders aped the Satanic offspring of Fuller Seminary, defended Fuller, quoted Fuller verbatim, studied the works of Fuller, and denied they ever attended Fuller. One can list Kelm, Valleskey, Bivens, Stolzenburg, Werning, Olson, Huebner, and many more.

Floyd Luther Stolzenburg was kicked out of LCMS, then backed by WELS, especially the Michigan District - Robert Mueller, Paul Kuske, etc. 

Fuller cleverly invited the World Mission executives of all denominations to sip its poison. The executives invited their underlings to attend as well. This was repeated for the American Mission executives, spreading the poison down to the underlings, lo even down to parish pastors (free tuition). LCMS-WELS-ELS-CLC made Fuller their alma mater, earning the precious DMin for dopes - coveted by the lazy, greedy, and blasphemous.

Funny how they moved Ski (a Jeske disciple) out and replaced him with another Jeske-ite.

 No! Really? And they deny it.

KJV Philippians 2:13 - 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Stephanus - 13 ο θεος γαρ εστιν ο ενεργων εν υμιν και το θελειν και το ενεργειν υπερ της ευδοκιας

Jackson Revisited Version - It is the effective Spirit in the Word which not only gives you the will to serve but is also effective in generating His pleasure. 

Jackson Amplified Version - God's own Holy Spirit not only sparks (energizes) the urge within you but also moves you to carry out His good pleasure - unlike the MBO  fools and their idiotic gimmicks.

 Summer discount at Fuller!
Woo! Pigs! Sooie!

They Do Not Teach Faith in Jesus Christ the Savior - Because They Have No Faith

From Luther - The First Holy Trinity Sunday

God will make no one such a king who is not God, for he will not give the reins out of his hands; he alone will be the Lord over heaven and earth, death, hell, the devil and all creatures. If he, then, makes Christ Lord of all that is created, Christ must truly be God.

8. We can. therefore, have no surer foundation for our belief in the divinity of Christ than that we enwrap and enclose our hearts in the declarations of the Scriptures. The Scriptures gradually and beautifully lead us to Christ; first revealing him to us as a man, then as the lord of all creatures. and finally as God. Thus we are successfully led to the true knowledge of God. But the philosophers and the wise men of this world would begin at the top and so they have become fools. We must begin at the bottom and gradually advance in knowledge, so that the words of Proverbs 25:27 may not apply to us: “It is not good to eat much honey; so for men to search out their own glory is grievous.”

I am glad that Carl Braaten - born 1929 - has lived so long that he can see the wreckage of the Lutheran Church that he worked so hard to accomplish. Every era has a dominant theme backed by a philosophy, whether acknowledged or not. Braaten's philosophy is one where anything divine is rejected and in need of a filler for the void. He earned a PhD at Harvard and studied under the lecherous gaze of Paul Tillich, whose own wife ratted him out in her book about Tillich.

Tillich's wife wrote about his sleazy behavior after he died.

Imagine if you will, a two-volume work on Christian Dogmatics, not just any work, but the Braaten-Jenson cooperative. You're traveling through another dimension -- a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's a signpost up ahead: your next stop: the Braaten-Jenson! [The Twilight Zone]

The Braaten-Jenson content is too precious to explain to ordinary people:

• The Trinity is denied.
• The Virgin Birth of Christ is rejected.
• Miracles did not happen.
• The Atonement has no meaning.
• The Resurrection is imaginary.

They needed a group of men to replace the articles of faith with their own dull, worn out, 19th century theology - BOMFOG. The German rationalists had already reduced the Christian Faith to the Brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of God. New England wits extended that summary - "And the neighborhood of Boston." Earlier, Unitarianism had been confined to New England, but it gradually became the philosophy of America.

The label Banned in Boston used to make me think Beantown was a bigoted city, because books were always banned there and nowhere else. Finally I realized that Boston was so loose that anything could be published there.

Likewise, the traditional Christian Faith was taken for granted across America, but the Great Depression gave many church leaders a chance to blame the Christian Church, not the Federal Reserve Bank, for the economic debacle. 

Based on endless reading about the era from the 19th century to Great Depression, I consider the 1930s the transition to German rationalism. That was slow at first but gradually took over the academic leaders and subsequently their students. Someone could say, "I read Tillich!" instead of "Jesus was only a man." A cool Karl Barth fan would say, "Have you read II, 2?" - the mark of the Barthian Church Dogmatics mostly written by his live-in mistress.

One of my professors was the President of the Karl Barth Society and told us about Barth's alleged use of his mistress, now openly acknowledged but hushed up. My dissertation advisor studied under Barth to earn his doctorate. Another advisor emphasized Barth in his work. 

Karl Barth paid his lovely young assistant, Charlotte Kirschbaum, almost nothing to assist their work with editing and research. Karl moved her into his house, against the objections of his wife.

The head of my program was enamored by Tillich's work - the Karl Barth Society professor said in class - "Lutherans do not understand Tillich." I responded with "Lutherans do not understand a Lutheran?" I merely pointed out what Tillich's own colleague said - the Union Seminary colleagues were appalled by his paganism.

The unspoken atheism of that era allowed the highly educated church professors - much like Luther's generation - to blabber about their own philosophies without being disturbed by the revelation of the Scriptures. 

Fuller Seminary - 

The Last Frontier of Atheism for Dullards

Fuller Seminary latched onto the pro-abortion Disciples of Christ professor Donald McGavran, a sociologist with a PhD from Columbia University. He attracted others who joined his incredibly stupid crusade, and that became the New Religion, good for everyone and harmless as well. The only effect Fuller has had is negative. To make their methods neutral, they divorced any suggestion of the Christian Faith from marketing. 

Some escape the dreariness of Church Growth for the Church of Rome, where the Scriptures are dodged once again in favor of method. They glory in their incense, their prissy demands of costumes, their choreography of entertainment without Christ Himself.

Darth Schroeder Is Reduced to Begging for New Buildings To Prop Up the Schools

 

 The Death Star is a felt need in WELS-LCMS.

"We have pacified this WELS circuit, time to move on,  so much more work to be done."

"Nobody in WELS went to Fuller Seminary for a DMin or any other kind of training, so turn around the diploma on the wall, OK?"