Mobbing - Continuous Discussion from ALPB - Dual Threads on the Topc

 ELCA Pastor Charles Austin, retired, reliably fans the flames of ALPB.org outrage.

I check into various Lutheran sites to see if anything is going on. The ALPB Online Forum is always busy with pronouncements, sometimes with facts - such as ELCA's seminaries collapsing into departments of colleges.

The original Mobbing article was fading away, then started over again. Various demands for apologies are being made now.

Like most discussion in Lutherdom today, faith has nothing to do with the endless debates.

In all synods and archdioceses, conflict and destruction come from leaders without faith. They lack faith in the Word of God, faith in Jesus as the Savior. They only think in terms of the denomination, especially their bailiwick.

The harm comes from unbelievers meddling, because building things up can take a long time and plenty of work. But any jackass can disrupt and destroy in a short time. No one stops to wonder why their own little kingdoms keep shrinking. The answer is - synod presidents, district presidents, circuit pastors, and bishops. They are always looking out for their own interests and constantly damage pastors, teachers, and congregations. But they are infallible, so no one can solve the problem.

One WELS pastor said, "I cannot disagree with the circuit pastor, because the Holy Spirit put him in that office. That would be like arguing with God." And you think the Roman Catholics are mixed up?

The deterioration of Lutheran groups into corporate structures has made people covetous of power and eager for it. They want to attain the influence, income, and luxuries of a position where the entire group is taxed for the benefit of a few. In the 19th century, Passavant accomplished more alone than the synods do today - and without the millions from Thrivent programs, Thrivent luxury vacations for the leaders, and Thrivent cash under the table.

 Want to be famous and rich? Follow your Father Below, play to the unbelieving crowd, wear a costume, exterior decorate with tatts, and get an obscene statue. Doesn't Nadia Bolz-Webber look like Ski and Glende with Katy Perry? 

Mobbing Is Another Word for Unbelieving Synod Officials with Dollar Signs in Their Eyes

The original MOBBING article is still getting attention on the Net. I was amused by the ALPB.org liberals in a state of denial about their methods, especially heresiarch David Benke, retired DP, DP, ex-DP, DP - LCMS.

Enabler Hall of Fame: WELS headquarters, DP Robert Mueller, VP Kuske, and the Michigan District pastors, George Orvick, John Shep, Jay Webber, and Roger Kovaciny.

I wrote a follow-up post on MOBBING, too. Few people realize the source of mobbing - the unbelieving officials - Synod Presidents, District Presidents, Circuit Pastors, and Bishops who meddle with congregations to protect the guilty and expel the faithful. Seminary faculties get involved too.

Never overlook the networks: Church Growth, women's ordination, lavender, and worse. They look out for each other and overlap in their agendas.

The system works because evil and incompetence are rewarded, and the absolved but unrepentant clergy become extra loyal and obedient to their organizations. If a pastor is involved in adultery in the course of counseling a troubled wife, he is promoted from the parish to a position as a mission counselor or Planned Giving Tetzel. If the newspapers find out, the only question among the leaders is not "How can we remove this sin?" but "Who told?" and life goes on.

The more someone is aligned to important people, by birth or marriage, the more he is protected from facing consequences. My example is well known:

1. Floyd Luther Stolzenburg was caught in the act, forced to resign, was divorced by his wife, and moved to Columbus, Ohio.
2. Even though Stolzenburg sat in the pew and insulted the circuit pastor during the sermon, whispering his remarks to a relative, Floyd was made the head of a Church Growth cancer "agency" funded by a rich man. Why? 
3. Columbus WELS people did not want the arrogant Stolzenburg doing this work, so even more money was given to have a second divorced pastor, Roger Zehms, share in the destructive work.
4. VP Paul Kuske was behind this - with Robert Mueller - and they always backed these two losers, who said, "We answer to nobody because we were called directly by the Holy Spirit."
5. Once the area was finally purged of Zehms and Stolzenburg, the WELS leaders got Floyd by backing his efforts to run Immanuel, where he still is.
6. Jay Webber and Roger Kovaciny raised money from Floyd Stolesomeburgers and Floyd bragged about his support of them and the ELS. Meanwhile, a large sum of money went missing from the parish funds. The police were invited to investigate, to satisfy the insurance agency. 

So guess what happens to anyone who questions the genius leadership of WELS-ELS? MOBBED.

After WELS stopped propping Stolzenburg up, the ELS took over. Kovaciny, backing Faithless Floyd, sent rants against me on email, so I forwarded them all to George Orvick and WELS officials. Webber had no problem working with Floyd and naming a Ukraine church after Floyd's Masonic parish.

Last 30 Days - Floyd Luther Stolzenburg and Jack Hyles Enjoy High Numbers. WELS Discussions Still Being Read Often

 What do WELS-ELS  and Jack Hyles have in commons?
Answer - Church Growth is their front for spiritual and marital adultery. Learn MOBBING from the best - join WELS-ELS.

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 Hybels and Clinton - we call them guys "crick-jumpers" around here. WELS loved the Hybels message so much, they paid their mission pastors to learn spiritual adultery from him. Fuller was not close enough.