Requested - Is the New KJV No Better Than the Apostate NIV?

 Graphic by Norma A. Boeckler

One person recently claimed, "The New KJV is no better than the NIV, so you might as well use the NIV."

That is patently false, because all King James Versions - note the plural - use the traditional text. However, the NIV uses the Butcher Commission of the International Bible Sorority, blackballing the verses they do not like. They erase the verses by dropping them into the footnotes, based on the hyperbolic lying of Tischendorf, Westcott, and Hort.

Regarding the New Testament text, which should matter to Lutherans, any King James is better than the NIV. In fact, the NIV should not be used at all, but there is big money in it for the synods.

Secondly, the New KJV does have translation errors in it, because it was marketed for the Babtists who liked the KJV but did not want the olde English in it. However, it is far closer to the precise translation of the KJV, maintaining that approach while the NIV uses the "dynamic equivalence" baloney of Nida.

When I have done comparisons, the KJV agrees with the old Luther translation. That is no shock because Tyndale's translation became the KJV.

The Great Commission, 

Teach or Manufacture?

KJV

Matthew 28: 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

NKJV

28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

Apostate NIV

Matthew 28:19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

The apostate Lutherans love "make disciples" because they learned from Fuller, Cho, and other fraud machines that cell groups make disciples that make disciples that make disciples. The synods that fell for this are collapsing. The underlined verb in Greek means "teach nations" so nations are the object of the verb. It does not say "manufacture disciples." The New KJV was aimed at the Baptists so they like the distortion.

Holy Communion or Just a Symbolic Ordinance?

KJV

1 Corinthians 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

NKJV

1 Corinthians 10:16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

Apostate NIV

1 Corinthians 10:16 Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ? 

WELS and LCMS are so gushy with the anti-Lutherans that they have no problem with the rejection of the Real Presence. 

Baptism Saves or It Is Just a Symbolic...Wait, I'm Lost

KJV

1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

NKJV

1 Peter 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

Apostate NIV

1 Peter 3:21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 

No shock, the Babtist New KJV backs away from "baptism now saves us." The NIV is completely allergic to the Sacraments, but when The CORE starts with no communion - no shock!

Is the Savior Locked in Heaven? 

Then no Real Presence

KJV

Acts 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

NKJV

Acts 3: 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since [e]the world began.

Apostate NIV

Acts 3:21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

New Living Translation
For he must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of all things, as God promised long ago through his holy prophets.

I think the NIV had "must remain in heaven" in the earlier version, but that is gone, gone, forgotten, gone.

WELS-LCMS Certifies Their Anti-Christian Stance with

the NIV Universalism Addition

KJV

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

NKJV

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22 even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 

Apostate NIV

Romans 3:21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

Two parts here - 

1) The Greek says "faith of Jesus Christ" not faith in Jesus Christ. The second construction is common but "faith of Jesus" is used by Paul three or more times. Nevertheless, though the KJV is precise on this, the others are not.

The reliably apostate NIV has everyone on earth justified. That sounds like all the modern theologians  like Barth - and just like the apostate leaders of WELS-ELS-LCMS. Does ELCA teach this? Of course.

Count on the ever-changing NIV to get more feminism into the New Testament.

Comparing Traditional Bible Translations

In Biblical translations, the Protestants drove off the road after WWII. Most of them were associated with the Left-wing National Council of Churches, earlier called the Federal Council of Churches. The FCC was so Communist that scandals erupted and they changed their name, ending the scandals.

The NCC sponsored the Revised Standard Version, which was hyped as much as the NIV later, especially since every denomination got behind it, sooner or later. Before the RSV, the KJV reigned supreme. Some Protestant became suspicious when the RSV experts decided the Virgin Birth prophecy in Isaiah 7 only predicted a young woman would bear a child, forgetting the phrase  God with us - Emmanuel. Let's face it, the RSV was a Bible from liberals and for liberals, clearly intended the break the grip of the King James.

All modern translations follow the dynamic equivalence nonsense from that heresiarch who put his stamp on all the Biblical societies - Eugene Nida. That theory gave everyone a license to make the Bible text say anything they wanted it to say. The New NIV is an example of delivering exactly what the mainline apostates and Church Growth apostates demand to hear - all are justified in Romans 3:24, even though the all is missing from all Greek texts.

The modernists were already getting three examples of this phrasing wrong, which the KJV has precisely as written in Greek -

Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: (not in, but of, see Galatians and Philippians)

Like the Virgin Birth omission, this addition of all has to be a new low in prostituting Biblical translation to the demands of the market place. Another example is Willowcreek only buying Bible that are feminist, which will certainly lead to pan-sexual Bibles. Like Marble Collegiate Church in NYC, the gulf between the founders and the present demons occupying what others labored for - is impossible to describe completely.

Lizard Hands - Murdoch owned your NIV Bible,
though I heard he sold it.

Although SP Mark Schroeder inkled that he hated the New NIV, that monstrosity from Lizard Hands has become the official WELS translation. Mequon won that round, which was one more eructation from the unified Church Growth UOJ faculty.

Where Are the Lutheran Groups?
WELS jumped 100% into the New NIV, which is appropriate for Pietists in the last stage of the Great Apostasy.

The Little Sect on the Prairie (ELS) seems to like the New KJV, as do the CLC (sic) and ELDONUTs. However, ELDONA also likes the Calvinist ESV (the RSV edited by a Calvinist), which is also a tendency in the LCMS.

ELDONA does not like the KJV21 or the Third Millennium Bible. One layman donated a number of both. Nobody thanked him or acknowledged the Bibles. He does not even know what happened to them. That suggests that the Right Reverend Bishop James Rodham Heiser pressed the shun button on the entire KJV family - except the Babtist New KJV. Do not search for logic in all this - I am only reporting what I know.

Comparing the KJV21 and Third Millennium
I look at the sacramental passages, which the modernist ones - including the New KJV - fail miserably. It is not only a matter of imposing their anti-sacramental views, which reveal opposition to the efficacy of the Word, the work of the Holy Spirit exclusively through the Word. Their failure to translate properly comes from slapping words into a text that were never there.

I am going to list key passages - KJV, KJV21, and TMB. Forget the New KJV, which I have shown before to be Babtist. The luv of the New KJV among the micro-mini-sects suggests they are Justification-by-Faith starved, just like WELS. If you want to find those blokes getting an education, it is always at a Babtist conference or college, Baylor included.

Romans 3:22King James Version (KJV)

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 3:2221st Century King James Version (KJ21)

22 even the righteousness of God, which is by faith of Jesus Christ, unto all and upon all those who believe. For there is no difference,

TMB - by faith of Jesus Christ.

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Matthew 28:19King James Version (KJV)

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Matthew 28:1921st Century King James Version (KJ21)

19 Go ye therefore and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost,

TMB

Go ye therefore and teach all nations

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1 Corinthians 10:16King James Version (KJV)

16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

1 Corinthians 10:1621st Century King James Version (KJ21)

16 The cup of blessing which we bless: is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break: is it not the communion of the body of Christ?

TMB

...is it not the communion of the blood of Christ?...communion of the body...

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1 Peter 3:21King James Version (KJV)

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

1 Peter 3:2121st Century King James Version (KJ21)

21 The like figure to this, even baptism, doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

TMB

...baptism, doth also now save us

Conclusion So Far

I use the KJV all the time, so I do not read the KJV21 or TMB often. They are synoptic in agreeing with the KJV, which is the intention. I see only minor, inconsequential differences in these comparisons.

Taking Away the Excuse - No Perfect Translation - for the New NIV. Video - Introduction to the KJV

I have not seen the whole documentary about the KJV, but I wanted to post it so I could watch it later.

False assumptions lead to massive problems. For proof, watch fail videos, such as "I can swing from this vine or rope into the river, even though I have no upper body strength while carrying a lot of Fritos and Little Debbies as dead weight." Fail.

All objections to the NIV forced upon WELS and LCMS members were met with, "There is no perfect translation."

And yet, when the synods discuss translations, they never include anything with "King James" in that wannabee group. I never call the NIV or New NIV a translation, because both are paraphrases and exercises in bad creative writing.

The laity will have to carry their own weight on this, because most clergy are ill-informed, too eager to fit in, and too worried about feeding their bellies to engage in an honest discussion about translations. Contrary to the assumption built into synodical talk, few clergy have a working knowledge of Hebrew and Greek, or even Greek, which is easy to learn and apply daily.

People do not need advanced language training to deal with these issues. The pivotal man in ruining the art of Bible translation was Eugene Nida, who had a PhD and all manner of posts and positions so he could ruin with translations his way. Lesson learned - it takes a PhD and leverage to ruin the Bible.

By the way, when I was but a lad, still wearing short-pants and riding a trike, this comment came up all the time, "There is a new way to translate - dynamic equivalence, not like the word for word of the KJV." 

New - that magical word. Any package at the grocery store with new on it will sell better than its peers. There are even rules about how often some package can put a new banner on it.

The NIV has new built into its title, but even then the entire thing had to be fixed up by people even more dishonest than the first bunch.

The Beck Bible had to be fixed, so Beck Began God's Word for the Nations. The GWTN had to be fixed, changed all over the place, until it emerged with another name.

Just between you and me, far too many people have smelled the scent of money in Bible printing. Like the manufacture of cars, the key is the break-even point. Once a new Bible reaches the break-even point, all additional sales are nothing more than printing money. Or - total revenue minus the cost of paper and ink. Why so many new Bibles? Why so many new hymnals? Same answer.

However, mentioning the KJV or any form of it
will toss the speaker into the justification by faith dungeon.