Showing posts with label Rick Curio Objective Justification book.. Show all posts
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Monday, March 11, 2019

UOJ Enthusiasts Should Shiver in Fear -
Hale's Defense of Halle Pietism Is a Disaster for Their Side.


Rev. Philip Hale was installed as Associate Pastor at Zion in August, 2015. He previously served as pastor at St. Paul Lutheran Church in Bancroft, NE in 2007-2015. He was also called to St. John Lutheran Church in Lyons, NE as part of a dual parish in 2012. Pastor Hale graduated from Concordia Theological Seminary in Fort Wayne, 2007, following a vicarage in Fredericksburg, IA. He graduated from the University of Texas at Austin with a degree in electrical and computer engineering. After working briefly as an engineer in Austin, he entered the seminary. Pastor Hale was born in Oklahoma and raised in Keller, TX. In 2007, Christ gave Philip his blessed wife Aubri. God has given them eight children: Lily, Clara, Gerhardt, Esther, Ephraim, Mercy, Martha and Josephine.

The book is Aspects of Forgiveness, The Basis for Justification and Its Modern Denial, by Philip Hale. published by Amazon. The title itself is dishonest. An honest subtitle would be - The Basis for Objective Justification and Its War Against Justification by Faith.

Hale continues this deception throughout the book, constantly upholding the late, false Calvinistic or Pietistic Objective Justification against "those who deny it."



Is this a clumsy effort to poison the well? I pointed out recently that the OJ Enthusiasts resort to "OJ deniers" so they do not have to say Justification by Faith.

This book is an extended argument against Pastor Paul Rydecki (WELS, ELDONA). There are a few potshots at me, but Hale never stops long enough to make an intelligent point with proper citations and warrants for his claims. A video game - right up his alley - portrays this as the Death Blossom: mow down the opposition in every direction with random fire.




The biggest problem Hale has is a lack of reading comprehension, the curse of the present generation - who lack a thorough education in language, rhetoric, informal logic, Hebrew, and Greek.

The second problem, almost as significant, is loading his argument with all the authors on his side - a very shallow group - ignoring the actual meaning of some statements, and dismissing objections fatal to his cause. He avoids the Biblical, doctrinal anchors for Justification by Faith the way a vampire avoids garlic. Some call this cherry-picking, a clever term for this logical fallacy.

If I Were Hale
If I were Hale, I would start with Genesis 15:6, Abraham believing God's Promise of a Messiah and a Kingdom as numerous as the stars. Abraham was Justified by Faith, I would concentrate on why Abraham is such an important figure in the New Testament. Abraham would have to be exiled or demoted by some extensive, imaginative exegesis.


Next, I would address Romans 3 - 5 and Romans 10, but really concentrate on Romans 4 through 5:2, to prove that Abraham is not our example of Justification by Faith and that Paul did not mean to say we have peace, forgiveness, and salvation through Justification by Faith (Romans 5:1-2, for Mequon, Bethany, and Ft. Wayne graduates).



I would not cite Galatians against Justification by Faith, because even the dimmest dimwit knows the little epistle was written specifically about Justification by Faith. Hale's efforts are like warning people not to get into real estate like Donald Trump, because they will never get anywhere.


Finally, I would fight like a madman to make people forget the Chief Article of the Christian Faith and who endorsed it in the Book of Concord. I would make them forget Melanchthon. Mrs. Ichabod just said, "They already have." OK, that is taken care of. And I would get people to think all the serious scholars who wrote about the Reformation as Justification by Faith to burn those horrid books.

Page Through the Little Tome
Hale thinks Diers, Oh Jay Webber, and Jon-Boy Buchholz are experts on Justification. He quotes Rick Curia's OJ Autograph Book like it is the Bible. I am glad Curia collected all that nonsense, because he was cherry-picking like a fanboy, not even pretending to study an issue. Curia found OJ fool's gold long before Church Growth found - Oh! Oh! - CG principles.


Unanswered Questions

Why does Hale ignore Thy Strong Word, (available free) - written against Church Growth and Objective Justification - the research beginning when he was still using a three-wheeler?

Why did Hale quote from this blog but fail to cite it? Has Paul McCain ordered him not to mention this blog's URL, as he did with the ill-named Steadfast Lutherans?



How does a seminary graduate avoid the Book of Concord so perversely while raking up every bit of false doctrine from any OJist he can find? The implied answer? - the Synodical Conference, starting as an OJ Sex Cult absolved by Walther, trumps the Book of Concord.

Helpful Hints for the Misinformed Seminarians and Their Barthian Professors

Hale certainly does not know that the Atonement and Justification are different. The Atonement is the reconciliation, and it also called the Redemption with two different Greek words. Ransom is another synonym.

The Old Testament Gospel is Isaiah 53 - the Atonement. Where does it say that God absolved the sins of the world? No where. There is an obvious difference between Christ the Savior paying the price and this Gospel creating faith which receives the message of forgiveness.

Justification by Faith of Jesus - solve that puzzle and you might begin to grasp the meaning of the Bible. Until then, the OJists will continue to drift downward into mainline apostasy, coveting those big empty churches and seminary buildings of ELCA and the UCC.

 The Faith of Jesus: Against the Faithless Lutherans

Wednesday, March 9, 2016

Dare To Defend Halle Pietism - The Source of the Term Objective Justification .
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How can God send anyone to hell? http://dtbl.org/24O2Tp0

http://higherthings.org How could God send anyone to Hell? Pr. Borghardt answers that He doesn't. Christ died for everyone. Those in Hell have rejected that....
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George Borghardt Greg, this sounds like ELDONA's differences with the LCMS. Since your church body rejects objective justification ("Christ died for all"), then you were already going to reject this video. But, I do thank you for watching smile emoticon

I hope some day our churches are able to be in communion again. Peace!

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Gregory L. Jackson Your opposition is to the Scriptures and the Book of Concord, not another group. But why stay on the subject?
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Ron Pederson If the forgiveness of sins is not already there, accomplished, what is faith to believe? Or does my faith bring forgiveness into existence? But faith isn’t what brings the forgiveness of sins into existence. On the contrary, it is the forgiveness of sins that brings our faith into existence. Our Catechism has a name for it: The means of grace.
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George Borghardt What Christ won on the cross is delivered to me in my baptism. Faith which is born of the gift trusts the word of God in the water. AC III-V
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Gregory L. Jackson Sorry George and Ron, this was settled by St. Paul, Romans 4:24. Stay with that. Focus. Read the chapter in English and Greek. Abraham is the example of righteousness through faith.
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Ron Pederson What is received by faith must be the same as what is offered by God. And if it isn’t, then my faith is the cause for a change in what God offers.
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Gregory L. Jackson That is your rationalistic statement, Ron, not what the Word of God teaches. There is a difference. One should not start with Walther and Stephan as the last word on justification and then filter everything through them.
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Ron Pederson Just for clarification: atonement, redemption, reconciliation, grace, the sins of the world are paid for or won, etc are all in the same genus as objective justification. They are all different expressions of the same thing?
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Gregory L. Jackson You are stuck on the universal Easter absolution of the world, via Halle Pietism. The irony is that your favorite term, Ron Pederson, is from the Calvinist translator's explanatory note in Knapp's Halle lectures: Objective Justification.http://ichabodthegloryhasdeparted.blogspot.com/.../knapps...
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George Borghardt Ron, you are right on this one...

Greg is from Eldona and his little best-viewed-on-Netscape website demonstrates why we aren't in communion together. There's no reason to engage him in his pet topic.

Thank you for the Gospel you confessed here: Christ died for all -- even those who don't believe in Him. That salvation is delivered to us in His gifts. Faith receives, we are saved. Rejection damns.

He needs to do some research on his website design while he's Google-ing the real meaning of universalism. Frames are so 1990's. lol smile emoticon

Have a great day! Happy Laetare Week!

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Ron Pederson Thanks. And I enjoy your short, well done pod-casts.
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Gregory L. Jackson George, you should post a Pietistic love-fest alert. I am not from ELDONA, but why let the facts cloud your sui generis fallacy? Justification by Faith is the Chief Article, something you both deny. If you want to call this my pet topic - thank you. It is the subject of Luther's best book, the Galatians Commentary, which you two have definitely not read, or if you did, missed the point entirely.

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Paul Rydecki Our churches will only be in communion again, 
Paul Rydecki Pastor Borghardt, if you stop spreading lies about my diocese and our doctrine, and if you bring your doctrine back in line with the Scriptures and Lutheran Confessions, which teach justification by faith alone, not salvation apart from faith. We teach that Christ died for all. We do not teach that God has declared all men righteous or saved anyone apart from faith, and we certainly do not teach, as you do, that God condemns no one to hell.


George Borghardt I'm sorry. I was putting the best construction on your stuff. There's folks in Eldona just like you who deny objective justification. You are probably friends with them.

In all seriousness, you seem like a person who loves theology. You got a lot of zeal. Learn to listen before you spend time misrepresenting what others teach. I can't be teaching universalism while saying rejecting Jesus lands us in hell. That's just an ignorant observation.

I forgive you for slandering me.

Take care!

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Gregory L. Jackson George, according to you and your Halle Pietists, I am already forgiven and saved. It is not slander to rebuke false doctrine. You need to study Luther's Large Catechism, his Galatian's Commentary, and Romans 4. You studied Greek? Read it in Greek - logizo - counted righteous, not before or without faith. You will not own the Universalism you spout, so I will name you a crypto-Universalist. That is more precise.


George Borghardt Never said before or without faith, my friend. Faith saves cuz Jesus saves. Next response gets you blocked smile emoticon
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Gregory L. Jackson I. AM. TERRIFIED.
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Gregory L. Jackson Don't worry, George. I have preserved the thread on my old-fashioned, Book of Concord friendly blog.




Paul Rydecki For those who are willing to investigate the facts of Pr. Borghardt's slander of the ELDoNA, our public confession is readily available. http://eldona.org/our-confessing/
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George Borghardt Hey... Lookie smile emoticon. Aren't you Paul Rydecki? Didn't you get kicked out of WELS for denying objective justification? smile emoticon

The gangs all here!

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Paul Rydecki I'm just glad you're helping the world to see what OJ really teaches (e.g., salvation apart from faith in Christ, that God doesn't send people to hell, etc.), and how eager you are to mock the Gospel of Christ and those who confess it. It's easier for the flock of Christ to identify the wolf when the sheep's clothing comes off.


George Borghardt Thanks! Have a great day. My confession is just fine! smile emoticon. Enjoy your days guys! Have fun storming the castle!
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Gregory L. Jackson Not a castle, George, a slime pit of UOJ. The Slough of Despond.