I listened to the videos posted below, where The Emergent Church leaders talk. Finkelstein is right - they are blabbing Process Theology, which is a way of talking about religion without believing in anything.
The Emergent Church is a natural outgrowth, as in cancer, of the Church Growth Movement. If you are ever forced to listen to ELCA leaders, you will find them talking just the way the Emergent guys do. This stuff was erupting in the 1960s and becoming institutionalized in the 1970s.
Some other Emergent leaders are: Richard Foster, Tony Jones, Brennan Manning, Brian McLaren.
For those of you who just starting reading Ichabod - Leonard Sweet was to be the keynote speaker for WELS Church and Change. The lagomorphs of the ministerium finally objected to something and the conference was canceled. Gurgel claimed there was no Church and Change anymore. Oh no. They just registered their next conference via WELS.net, with a Church Growth guy in charge of technology. They got bumped from the official synod website, but now they have hired Babtist Ed Stetzer to be their next keynote speaker. Stetzer, below, is the wide-body version of Sweet.
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My opinion for what it is worth. Church and religion need to get right with the Lord before trying to find the right way to attract more members. They don't want to do what Christ says in the bible, e.g., witness & testify of Him, go out and spread the Word, etc. Instead followers expect a proxy sytem of ministers to do it. Unfortunately most ministers don't want to do it either. They just want to preacher and administer the sacraments -- i.e., stay in their comfort zone.
Is it any wonder then that memberships decline? Is it any wonder that members get tired of footing the bill for another building or a new technique that fail at spreading the Word?
Instead, lay persons sit back and let the blind lead the blind.
Hi Anon,
Your comments also speak volumes and show everyone your lack of understanding of what the Sacraments are and what the Sacraments do.
"They just want to preacher and administer the sacraments" (sic)
"JUST?" What else is a minister to do? Oh yeah, be a visionary, cheerleader, money guru and counselor etc. etc. Please. There is an incredible level of responsibility with those things which would put most of us laymen way out of our comfort zone. Who has faithfully corrupted your understanding of what a minister is? Yes, I have too heard that we are all ministers and to a certain as all being part of the universal priesthood of all believers yes, BUT..............
Yes be a witness, give answer to the Faith that you have and be able to accurately speak the truth, but "PROXY SYSTEM" ?? This is a slap in the face to God and to the called ministry. I still can't swallow the WELS Bible study course that explains how we are all "ministers." I think, and the kind Dr. may need to inject some comments, but I do believe that the LORD has always worked by his servants into the ministry by calling them as seen from Aaron on down the line.
NOW THEN
Perhaps you will enlighten us on the sacraments and non-believers?
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