Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "The Ichaslang Lexicon":
I think that you should be angrier, more negative. I love the way that you quote Luther as if he were God. Do you have any scripture quoted in here? You talk about growth as if it were a plague - fine, go ahead and ignore it, and 20 minutes after you start moldering in your grave (something everyone can celebrate) - the last Lutheran can turn out the lights.
You are so dim. It's about saving people by preaching Christ and him crucified. The word can go out in so many ways. It is his message, not the methods - you worship the methods, not the message. It's about changing lives through the Gospel, not about keeping sad old traditions alive. It doesn't have to come from a pulpit, with organ music droning in the background with lifeless stiffs mouthing the words from their comas. Get real.
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GJ - I hope the innocents see the real spirit of Church and Change in this comment.
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Some Scripture for Mouse, via Brett Meyer:
2 Peter 2:12-22, "But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire."
1 Peter 3:12-17, "For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil. And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing."
Jude 1:10, "But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves."
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Church and Change Takes Off the Mask, Reveals the ...":
"It doesn't have to come from a pulpit, with organ music droning in the background with lifeless stiffs mouthing the words from their comas. Get real." And yet "it is his message, not the methods." Such logical inconsistency! If the method supposedly doesn't matter, why such disdain for historically tried and true methods, which are centered on "his message" (better said, the Word of God)? It reminds me of postmodernism - there is no absolute truth... but if you don't believe that, you're wrong.
It is just the same pattern of upheaval as always: tolerance, acceptance, dominance, oppression. First they sought "only tolerance" of their false ways, but then they wanted acceptance on an equal footing. And now, apparently, they have both an attitude of dominance and even the gall to oppress God-centered worship. Hopefully it is just the conceited attitudes and oppression of some and not the reality among the church at large.
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