Thursday, May 14, 2009

Here I Swing:
I Can Do No Other
Ich kann nicht anders schwingen




Brett Meyer was kind enough to reinterpret the Diet of Worms, with Ski demonstrating how he puts Luther's doctrine into practice.

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Brett Meyer has left a new comment on your post "Here I Swing: I Can Do No OtherIch kann nicht ande...":

1 Corinthians 10:20-21, "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils."

Luther, "If it is not in accordance with My Word, it is not the Christian Church. For what could induce the Christian Church to change and undermine the Word of its Lord? The true Church would say: I cling to the Word of my dear Lord Christ. I insist on this. According to this Word I will make my decisions. I will not hold with those who do otherwise. This the Christian Church has always done in previous times. It condemned heresy and all false doctrine not according to its own opinion, as the pope and his people do, but according to the Scripture and Christ's Word."

Luther, "4] For what shall I say? How shall I complain? I am still living, writing, preaching, and lecturing daily; [and] yet there are found such spiteful men, not only among the adversaries, but also false brethren that profess to be on our side, as dare to cite my writings and doctrine directly against myself, and let me look on and listen, although they know well that I teach otherwise, and as wish to adorn their venom with my labor, and under my name to [deceive and] mislead the poor people. [Good God!] Alas! what first will happen when I am dead?"

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Here I Swing: I Can Do No OtherIch kann nicht ande...":

We must be careful about how we present Ski to new readers. I wouldn't want to give new readers the idea that Ski would threaten violence against people.

• Soak up evangelism funds -- yes.
• Deprive souls of the pure Gospel through an Enthusiast focus on distracting music and Babtist tactics-- yes.
• Create discord and confusion within the WELS community -- yes.
• Open a church within one block of another WELS church and within two blocks of TWO empty churches -- yes.

• Risk chipping Rosebud, no.


+ Diet O. Worms

11 comments:

Brett Meyer said...

1 Corinthians 10:20-21, "But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils."

Luther, "If it is not in accordance with My Word, it is not the Christian Church. For what could induce the Christian Church to change and undermine the Word of its Lord? The true Church would say: I cling to the Word of my dear Lord Christ. I insist on this. According to this Word I will make my decisions. I will not hold with those who do otherwise. This the Christian Church has always done in previous times. It condemned heresy and all false doctrine not according to its own opinion, as the pope and his people do, but according to the Scripture and Christ's Word."

Luther, "4] For what shall I say? How shall I complain? I am still living, writing, preaching, and lecturing daily; [and] yet there are found such spiteful men, not only among the adversaries, but also false brethren that profess to be on our side, as dare to cite my writings and doctrine directly against myself, and let me look on and listen, although they know well that I teach otherwise, and as wish to adorn their venom with my labor, and under my name to [deceive and] mislead the poor people. [Good God!] Alas! what first will happen when I am dead?"

Anonymous said...

Well done, Brett!

When we see how much these Enthusiasts adore their intense photography on their websites, the best way to enjoy them is to mock them.


+Diet O. Worms.

Anonymous said...

Somehow I cannot imagine Ski doing anything to help Luther or the Reformation. It took far more character than the word awesome carries.

Brett Meyer said...

Chemnitz, "Let him therefore who is concerned about his life not be taken in by the friendliness of heretics to agree with their doctrine. Neither let him be offended at my faults, who am a teacher, but let him consider the doctrine itself."

Luther, "Perhaps you look about and think: What, could so many people be wrong all at once? Beware, and do not let their number trouble you; hold fast to God's Word; He cannot deceive you, though all mankind be false, as indeed the Scriptures say, Psalm 116:11: 'All men are liars.'"

Luther, "It is true, the injury is not so glaring, and it appears to be much worse if a person's head is struck off, than if a false prophet or writer comes forward; but a false sermon, yea even a false word, which comes whirling along in God's name, will cut off a great number of souls, so that an entire city or country may fall under it."

Luther, "All the others also say that they are teaching the Word of God. No devil, heretic, or sectarian spirit arises who says: I, the devil, or a heretic, am preaching my own views. On the contrary, all know how to say: This is not my doctrine; it is God's Word."

Anonymous said...

"Luther, "All the others also say that they are teaching the Word of God. No devil, heretic, or sectarian spirit arises who says: I, the devil, or a heretic, am preaching my own views. On the contrary, all know how to say: This is not my doctrine; it is God's Word.""

That is what is so scary about WELS these days. For example, "when you give to WELS you are giving to God." Even if this were true, it is wide open to deception and abuse.

Anonymous said...

Ski impatient with the Holy Spirit takes matters into his own hands. Now something will get done.

Anonymous said...

As we move from bible thumping to head bashing...

Anonymous said...

We must be careful about how we present Ski to new readers. I wouldn't want to give new readers the idea that Ski would threaten violence against people.

• Soak up evangelism funds -- yes.
• Deprive souls of the pure Gospel through an Enthusiast focus on distracting music and Babtist tactics-- yes.
• Create discord and confusion within the WELS community -- yes.
• Open a church within one block of another WELS church and within two blocks of TWO empty churches -- yes.

• Risk chipping Rosebud, no.


+ Diet O. Worms

Anonymous said...

Putting peoples' beliefs and souls at risk does real violence against people!!!

Anonymous said...

Poor Ski is swinging away like a blind man.

Anonymous said...

Did I miss something? Who is Rosebud?