Thursday, June 4, 2009

Ice Cream, Ice Cream, Ice Cream



Craig Groeschel, Life Church, trained at a Disciples of Christ seminary. Like the Babtists, the Disciples are opposed to
infant baptism and baptismal regeneration.
Screaming is a substitute for content.
Look at those neck veins pop.


Bishop Katie's Blog:

On Sunday Ski said or rather shouted (if you were there you know I’m serious) “Churches want to put out their hand to help people out of the mud, but that’s not what our Savior does. Our Savior climbs in the mud with you and pulls you up and helps you out. That’s what we’re about.”




The Buffalo Bills sound better.

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Look what I found at The CORE website -

The Core's:
Confessions


We all have sicknesses within us that seem to eat us up inside. These range from anger and bitterness to envy, guilt, and pride. The first step in receiving forgiveness for these sins that lurk deep within is confessing them. Please use the form below to anonymously confess the sickness that is eating at you from within. Also, please feel free to read other people's confessions using the tags on the right side of the page and pray that God may give those individuals the strength to heal from their sicknesses.

Use the form below to make your anonymous confession:

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GJ - Posted with the confession form is a graphic almost exactly like the one I downloaded from Craig Groeschel for The Sickness Within. Don't worry - I signed the license agreement.

The sermon theme for this Sunday is: The Sickness Within, Control. That happens to be in the same order as the one I downloaded from Craig Groeschel. When other denominations copy Groeschel, they even use the same number for each sermon. Control is #4, while pride was #3.

The Sickness Within - Control - Watermark Community Church.
"This podcast is a production of Watermark Community Church. Our church was designed for those who had given up on the local church."

Does that sound like Ski? Just a little?

Ichabodians, members of WELS have given vast sums of money to clone a Groeschel/Stanley cell in Appleton, in Fox Valley where they hardly need one more WELS congregation. Or one more Emerging Church. A-town has several of those. Ski went to the Alliance one several times, as he Tweeted.

Naturally, the money was given directly to this badly needed mission in Fox Valley, to finance:


  1. A huge movie theatre with a myriad of sub-woofers.
  2. Two full-time staffers who do minimal work.
  3. Five conferences Ski has attended, not to mention three at least attended by Katie.


Church and Change has been doing this for a long time, diverting funds for their own pet projects, or draining the synod coffers directly. Ask them how they do this. They are the dominant element at The Love Shack, The Sausage Factory, and Martin Luther College. The provide seminars for their disciples at their conferences.

So, when more pastors are canned permanently due to lack of funds, count up the money Church and Change has diverted to their Wild Hair Missions Department.





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Vatican laments drop in confessions


VATICAN CITY (AP) - A Vatican official is lamenting that many faithful no longer confess their sins, and says some confuse a psychologist's couch for a confessional booth.

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GJ - Ski, Groeschel and the Antichrist are singing from the same page of the hymnal on this one. I think anonymous Internet confessions are the way to go, especially since Ski can check on the IP addresses, find out who wrote them, and shake them down for bigger offerings. Hey, it worked with Schwan.

PS - Why am I posting Ski's borrowed sermon themes faster than they Tweet them at The CORE? Can't two full-time staffers find time to send out the name of the latest borrowed sermon?




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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Ice Cream, Ice Cream, Ice Cream":

Don't worry about Ski baptizing babies, Craig. He doesn't use the sacraments at all.

All his new members already were baptized in other WELS churches, where he is drawing them from (how strange for a "mission" congregation). And as for the Lord's Supper, he's just as ashamed of that as he is of his Lutheranism.

So don't worry. He's just like you.

13 comments:

Brett Meyer said...

The CORE (WELS), "The first step in receiving forgiveness for these sins that lurk deep within is confessing them."

As pointed out many times before Ski and his ilk have incorporated the Methodist, Baptist, Universalist decision theology into their doctrine and practice. The fact that anyone defends, condones or ignores this rot is indicative of the true condition in the WELS. Schroeder can say what he likes but unless something is done publicly to stop the public false doctrine and practice of The CORE as Scripture commands be done he is as guilty as they are.

Well done WELSians.

Anonymous said...

Just look at that building. That is how WELS throws around money, and then cries poor. What is wrong with this picture folks? Is there or is there not a serious management problem at WELS?

Anonymous said...

"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest": a case study of CORE.

Anonymous said...

How much money is coming out of WELS coffers to support the CORE?

Anonymous said...

Who knows with the creative accounting at WELS? Ask Gurgel.

Anonymous said...

WELS is what it is due to the apathy and complacency of its members. If the members do not the care, the leaders certainly WILL NOT CARE.

Brett Meyer said...

The CORE (WELS), "The first step in receiving forgiveness for these sins that lurk deep within is confessing them."

Luther, "He who perverts this order and acts accordingly is certainly not of God."

"8. Do you ask: "What then am I to do? How shall I make myself good and acceptable in person to begin with? how secure that justification? The Gospel replies: "Hear Christ and believe in him, utterly despairing of yourself and resting assured you will be changed from a Cain to an Abel and then present your offerings." just as faith is proclaimed without merit or work on your part, it is also bestowed regardless of your works, without any of your merits. It is given of pure grace. Note, faith justifies the individual; faith is justification. Because of faith God remits all sins, and forgives the old Adam and the Cain in our nature, for the sake of Christ his beloved Son, whose name faith represents. More, he bestows his Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit changes the individual into a new creature, one with different reason and different will, and inclined to the good. Such a one, wherever he is, performs wholly good works, and all his works are good; as taught in the preceding epistle lesson.

9. Then nothing else is necessary to justification but to hear and believe in Jesus Christ as our Saviour. But that is not a work of the natural man; it is a work of grace. He who presumes to attain justification by works, only obstructs the way of the Gospel, of faith, grace, Christ, God and all good. On the other hand, nothing but justification is necessary to render works good. The justified man and none other does good; all he does, being justified, is good, without distinction of works. Therefore, the order of man's salvation, the beginning and the sequel, is first to hear and then believe God's Word as supreme, and then to act. Thus shall man be saved. He who perverts this order and acts accordingly is certainly not of God."
http://www.trinitylutheranms.org/MartinLuther/MLSermons/Galatians4_1_7.html

Also,
Luther, "The first duty of man is to believe in God and to honor Him with his faith. Faith is truly the height of wisdom, the right kind of righteousness, the only real religion. This will give us an idea of the excellence of faith."
http://www.bibleteacher.org/luthercom_3.htm



In Christ,
Brett Meyer

UOJ Post Script:
Luther, "Therein God concludes all man's works, previous to his justification, evil and ineffectual; he requires justification and goodness on the part of the individual first. Again, he concludes that all persons in the state of nature and of the first birth are unjust and evil."

Luther, "Reason shouts that all this is preposterous. Are you surprised that reason thinks little of faith? Reason thinks it ludicrous that faith should be the foremost service any person can render unto God. Let your faith supplant reason. Abraham mastered reason by faith in the Word of God. Not as though reason ever yields meekly. It put up a fight against the faith of Abraham."
http://www.trinitylutheranms.org/MartinLuther/MLSermons/Galatians4_1_7.html

Luther, "Faith truly honors God. And because faith honors God, God counts faith for righteousness."
http://www.bibleteacher.org/luthercom_3.htm

MLC President Mark Zarling, "Perhaps such a distinction is helpful if it assists us in understanding the glorious Gospel: In Jesus, God has declared the entire world righteous and forgiven, irregardless of whether or not the world believes it. Such is the jewel described by objective, universal, or general justification."

Mark Zarling, "The reason there is confusion in regard to the role of faith is rather simple. Satan is always trying to get men to pat themselves on the back…We need not concern ourselves in preaching about faith. Simply present Law and Gospel. Warn sinners that unbelief damns, and rejection of Christ will bring eternal torment. Then comfort them with the glorious objective reality that all sins are already forgiven in Christ."
http://www.wlsessays.net/files/ZarlingJustification.pdf

Anonymous said...

Church and Change is a ripoff. Stay away from it.

Anonymous said...

Church and Change has turned religion into a mockery.

Anonymous said...

Is CORE for real? Communist brainwashing did not ask for such confessions.

Anonymous said...

How perverted is CORE going to get?

Anonymous said...

Don't worry about Ski baptizing babies, Craig. He doesn't use the sacraments at all.

All his new members already were baptized in other WELS churches, where he is drawing them from (how strange for a "mission" congregation). And as for the Lord's Supper, he's just as ashamed of that as he is of his Lutheranism.

So don't worry. He's just like you.

Anonymous said...

Another Vein-Popping Phony.