Friday, June 5, 2009

Questions about WELS and Asia




Read this eye-opening report on our buddies, the Chinese Communists.

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "ELS and WELS Remember the Tiananmen Square Slaught...":

"Graduates without jobs at The Sausage Factory are told to go teach English in Red China if they want jobs."

Actually, pastors with jobs also clamor for $$ to take excursions to China as well.

Case in point, read Mark Cordes' account of teaching "all three languages from Genesis 1" to Chinese students for 2 weeks (http://www.nycrossofchrist.org/home/140001589/140001589/Mission%20Connection%20Article.pdf) with Leon Piepenbrink and his Babpist nephew.

My three questions are:

1. Don't we already have a seminary in Hong Kong, missionaries with Chinese language skills in Taiwan, and Friends of China and Kingdom Workers already working in China? Why does Piepenbrink need to accumlate more vacation pictures and rack up more frequent flier miles? Who is paying for his jet-set ministry?

2. Did the WELS coffers purchase his Babpist (sic - should be Babtist - the errant spelling implies an angry Babtist) nephew's plane ticket? His nephew is "also serving as interim minister for Palo Verde Baptist Church." (http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/8260.php)

3. How much money was spent with the result that "By the end of our two weeks,some who had requested triple the hours of instruction could pick out several Hebrew words and explain them"? If this minimal instruction is all that is required for an all-expenses paid trip to China, where do I sign up?

4. Why is Piepenbrink allowed to set up ministry posts in Thailand without informing the WELS missionaries already working in Thailand? (http://www.hmongministry.net/missionworkinthailand.html) Why spend the $$ to fly all the way to South East Asia when we ALREADY HAVE MISSIONARIES THERE?

5. Who is allowing this insanity to continue?

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

The WELS hierarchy blesses this insanity and others.

Anonymous said...

Surprisingly the technology exists today to do most of this instruction over the internet. The days of needing to jet-set all over the world are no longer necessary.

The same holds true for Christian Day School education in this country. Today it is no longer necessary for a congregation to spend $3 to $5 million on a Cbristian Day School. Classes a couple of evenings and weekends each week is all that is necessary.

Do you think for a minute WELS will go along with it? They want you to hire pastors and teachers, and buy supplies from NPH in addition to erecting monuments to their endeavors.

Anonymous said...

I guess you are right. Egomaniacs drove the synod into the ground. The challenge right now then is what can be salvaged from the mess -- assuming the old know-it-alls will not demand their way again. Any ideas out there?

Anonymous said...

There are no more missionaries in Thailand that I know of. They are coming home. They are leaving trained workers behind who they no doubt will continue to mentor, but the two that were in Chiang-Mai are gone as of June 30th.

Brett Meyer said...

What can be salvaged? Christ's Church is founded on the eternal Holy Scriptures and that foundation is the only thing that's important. Everything else will burn. In my opinion it's not a matter of saving the Synod or parts thereof. It was only the true Christians within it that made it worth anything at all. Those Christians need to remain faithful to Christ's pure doctrine, contend for it, endure in the faith, reprove, rebuke and exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. By doing so in the wisdom of the Holy Ghost they will remove the false teachers, doctrine and practice from their midst or seeing that the organization is rotten will depart in order to obey Christ's command. Faithfulness to Christ's doctrine must be more important than fellowship with men. The Lord's will will be done.

1 Corinthians 11:19, "For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you."

2 Timothy 4:1-8, "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry. For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."

In Christ,
Brett Meyer

Anonymous said...

Your five questions make it clear that WELS has no idea what it is doing.

Anonymous said...

No doubt religion will serve as a very powerful tool for helping to control a restive population. WELS will see little or nothing in return, a lot of promise sure but that is about it.

Anonymous said...

Leave it to WELS to sidle up to evil in all forms in exchange for a feeling of power.

Anonymous said...

DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING TO MAKE SENSE IN WELS, AND YOU WILL BE FINE. Opportunists run the organization.

Leon Piepenbrink said...

What a delightful surprise to find that there are questions here about my ministry! More surprising still is the fact that the fine, dedicated Christians who have raised these questions are evidently too afraid to identify themselves but remain comfortably 'anonymous.' Also surprising is that no one has addressed these questions to me directly, though my email address is public knowledge. Evidently Matthew 18:15-17 has been rescinded. Just as well, that is a bothersome teaching anyway.