Sunday, July 19, 2009

Hope for WELS?





Like Don Patterson,
Jim Huebner represents everything wrong with WELS.
He was "harmless as Second VP,"
so now he is mentioned for First VP,
which means
SP-in-Waiting in WELS.
At what point is a false teacher harmless?



Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Michigan Lutheran Seminary Could Close: Thank Your ...":

All WELS pastors are corrupt to one degree or another. They are part of the deception because they do not tell the truth and stop paying tribute to synod.

Wow...that's painting them all with a broad brush. I'd say there are plenty deceptive pastors/administrators but to say ALL pators are corrupt, that's a stretch. In any case, either WELS shows it's (sic) members that somebody is going to finally take the bull by the horns and start holding the feet of the C&C to the proverbial fire, or I predict there could soon be a mass exodus of WELS members. The synod convention in Saginaw would be the perfect time for somebody to step up to the plate. Thanks to the internet, many eyes will be watching this and looking for a definitive outcome. I feel like it's do or die time for my beloved WELS.

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GJ - Insolvency has a wonderful way of focusing attention on fundamental problems.

Young Jon Balge mentioned having a "fuller knowledge of Christ" at one meeting. I said, "I think we have too much of that already." Nobody would engage on the topic as long as the money seemed to flow from insurance grants and St. Marvin of Schwan.

Eighteen years ago, the Ohio Conference let a Fuller-trained seminary professor endorse Fuller, Church Growth, and "spoiling the Egyptians." The somnolent or spineless faculty (Brenner and Brug included) let Valleskey publish his odious and disgraceful essay in their Quarterly, where an "analysis" of Church Growth was merely an endorsement.

The Little Sect on the Prairie had a spasm of rejecting CG, but Orvick got someone to deliver a Halleluia Chorus for Valleskey's essay.

Missouri "studied" CG and found it wonderful. Barry-McCain did nothing to stop it, so the movement swept Kieschnick into office.

Now everyone gets to pay the price of ignoring false doctrine and unionism for 20-30 years.

I think there are a significant number of WELS pastors who want to do what is right according to the Scriptures and Confessions. Another group is neutral, still in the Baby Blue Eyes stupor which is so carefully nurtured in WELS. The Chicanies will do everything possible to oppose, water down, and overturn anything against their little circus, which makes so much noise, uses up so much loot, and accomplishes nothing except ruin.

If a First VP is elected as a compromise with the Changers, or with the excuse of "balancing" the leadership, then the final results will be victory for the Shrinkers. God will continue to use the Changers to punish the synod for its laxity, torpor, and stupidity.

My perspective is limited, but I think the convention will be successful, as long as the laity and pastors continue the fight afterwards and support correct doctrinal decisions.

Bring your Aderman FIC to Saginaw, mark it up, and drop it off at the speaker's podium - with your name on it. Things like that will make a difference.

On the positive side, encourage the laity and pastors who want to follow the Confessions. I know they exist and work for what is correct according to the Scriptures.

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Does the propagandist below mean the CLC with David Koenig and Paul Tiefel? They love every doctrine except Luther's. And yet, in the area of legalism, the CLC clergy make the Pharisees look like Evangelists.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Hope for WELS?":

There's always the CLC (sic). Why not join since that's how you feel. All of your thoughts and beliefs seem to line up with a more conservative church body so why not leave wels and join it? Why stick around and complain?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Hope for WELS?":

I believe that those of us who know Jon Balge fairly well also know that he was probably (99% sure on this)making a tongue-in-cheek comment -- a pun, if you will -- and your quote should more properly read, "a Fuller knowledge of Christ." So, it was a good joke followed by a good comeback.

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GJ - He meant "fuller" and I chose to make it Fuller in my response. I knew Jon quite well, and he was always good for a joke.