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Monday, January 05, 2009
The Promised Rant
There were two pieces of news within the WELS recently that disturbed me.
The first is the WELS equivalent to Jesus First (Church and Change) has invited a Baptist, Ed Stetzer, to speak to them about, what else, missions! The problem, however, isn't that Dr. Stetzer wants to reach others for Christ, but that the man isn't Lutheran. He's going to bring his Baptist perspective to a Lutheran gathering. The man sees no role for the sacraments. We can think we can "spoil the Egyptians," but this type of thinking is leading us into the same place the American Church has now landed: Christless Christianity. Oh, there are people who do not like this. The District Presidents got together and grumbled a little, but nothing happened. No one was disciplined, and life goes on. I wish someone in the WELS would grow a spine.
The second piece of news is more disturbing. By digging a little, I also found more interesting side tidbits to this story. Paul Kelm received and accepted a call to Parish Services. The Director of Parish services, Bruce Becker, issued this call after being directed by Synodical President Mark Schroeder not to add staff due to the economic woes. President Schroeder didn't know about the call until Kelm's name showed up on the call list. How in the world am I supposed to put the best construction on that, especially when it has leaked that Becker kept President Schroeder in the dark on purpose.
Here's a few tidbits to the story (some of which you may already know). John Parlow, Pastor of St Mark Du Pere and Green Bay, WI, has been caught not once but twice plagiarizing sermons from Baptist websites. In case you are wondering, I still have in my possession the proof that this occurred. This is where Paul Kelm was called from. Even better, St Mark is a member of the Willow Creek Association as well as the WELS. This begs the question why hasn't President Engelbrecht and the rest of the Northern Wisconsin Praesidium come down on St. Marks and her pastors harder and with more fury than God came down on Sodom and Gomorrah? This is a clear violation of fellowship principles! Why aren't WELS pastors screaming their lungs out about this instead of just privately complaining about this when among themselves? Who will be our St. Nicholas, a man who became so angered by Arius' false theology about Christ that he stood up and slapped him?
Just to light a fire under some church workers, look at who else is part of the Willow Creek Association. Yes, welcome to the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago! Parlow has somehow united us all to the ELCA, LCMS, the spawn of Calvin, the spawn of the Radical Reformation, and to Rome. Happy Day!
As another historical tidbit, the Gloria Patri (Glory be to the Father...) was brought into the Church's canticles to fight Arius' poisonous doctrines on Christ. That is why we sing it it in every Psalm and canticle.... Oh, wait. We use Christian Worship. They only left it in the Psalms. (Stay tuned for another segment of "why our hymnal sucks, especially after the LCMS put out the LSB" after these important messages).
Note: edited because the author can't spell Du Pere nor can he keep from using just one definite article.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "More Admonitions Like This Are Needed":
(Thankfully I'm a member of a district that, so far, has been mostly free of the influence of CG heresy.)
Are you joking? Who cares what district you are a part of?? The SYNOD, of which you are a part, allows this apostasy to continue. Please wake up and shake up those pastors who are firmly grounded in God's Word. Encourage them to stand up and heed the admonition to 'Put on the armour of God'. If God be for you, who can be against you? Even the retired pastors, who can surely see the synod's decline from when they were on active duty, stand up and be heard! Help show where Synod has strayed and how to get back on track. Maybe a current pastor with a church fears some kind of punitive actions, but these retired guys have nothing to lose. God still has a purpose for them in His church and this very well may be it. STAND UP AND BE HEARD!!
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More admonitions will do nothing. Since the false teachers will not listen to God, they will not listen to man. Drive them out. Banish them.
Is there a God-fearing pastor left in WELS who will do the work of the Lord? Or have they all sold their souls to the synod?
>>>Is there a God-fearing pastor left in WELS who will do the work of the Lord? Or have they all sold their souls to the synod?<<<
There really isn't much that God-fearing pastors can do. The district president has all of the power to oversee doctrine in the synod. If I were a member of the Northern Wisconsin District, I could work to elect another district president, one who will uphold Scripture and the Confessions. As a member of another district, however, there's really nothing that I can do. (Thankfully I'm a member of a district that, so far, has been mostly free of the influence of CG heresy.) The WELS claims to value grassroots input, but the average pastor or layman really has no power whatsoever.
>>>There really isn't much that God-fearing pastors can do. The district president has all of the power to oversee doctrine in the synod. If I were a member of the Northern Wisconsin District, I could work to elect another district president, one who will uphold Scripture and the Confessions. As a member of another district, however, there's really nothing that I can do. (Thankfully I'm a member of a district that, so far, has been mostly free of the influence of CG heresy.) The WELS claims to value grassroots input, but the average pastor or layman really has no power whatsoever.<<<
Sir, you are describing Nazi-like control. That explains why when I look around I see pastors pandering to corrupt DPs.
Which WELS District's are relatively free of Church Growth heresy? And, isn't each district in doctrine and practice fellowship with all other districts?
"There really isn't much that God-fearing pastors can do."
This isn't true.
Ephesians 6:10-20, "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."
False teachers are ransacking God the Father's House, His Church, on your watch.
In Christ,
Brett Meyer
Here are the worship principles for St. Mark De Pere.
The document in question can be found here:
http://stmarkpartners.org/downloads/Biblical.pdf
"Made to Worship: Biblical Prescriptive Principles for Corporate Worship at St. Mark"
1. Worship in truth and spirit. – John 4:23
2. Worship the true God only. – Matthew 4:10
3. Worship in an orderly fashion. – 1 Corinthians 14:40
4. Men are to be the spiritual teachers/preachers in a congregation of men and women. –
1 Timothy 2:11-12; 1 Corinthians 14:26ff
5. Strive to do all to the glory of God. – 1 Corinthians 10:31
6. Edification of the Church. – Ephesians 4:11-12
What's missing here? No Law, no Gospel, no means of grace, no forgiveness, no Christ. But I'm sure you'll feel really good about yourself and learn how to be a "good person" and have a "happy life" if you go to this church. Make sure to bring your vomit bag if you do.
And it gets worse. Here is the St. Mark's website description of their worship styles: (http://stmarkpartners.org/content/category/9/33/78/)
"St. Mark Lutheran Church exists to make a meaningful and relevant impact on the lives and hearts of people who live in the Northeast Wisconsin area. We offer hope, healing, and spiritual solutions to people wherever they are in their journey. For spiritual seekers, those investigating the gospel message, our goal is to help you find practical answers to your spiritual questions. For everyone, we want to provide availability and easy access to a variety of experiences that help you grow spiritually.
Because we believe the message of God’s love and forgiveness is the most thrilling, inspiring, life-changing message of all time, we want to do everything possible to reach people with that message. Therefore, we strive to make our presentation of Christ creative, relevant, understandable, memorable, and engaging. We want to help you connect with the personal hope and practical help that God can give us.
Therefore we offer two "styles" of worship: contemporary and traditional, that you can explore, learn, and grow spiritually in a way that is memorable, engaging, and that suits your personal style."
Funny. I always thought the church existed to proclaim the Gospel to lost sinners and administer the word and sacraments. Welcome to our Brave New World in WELS.
(Thankfully I'm a member of a district that, so far, has been mostly free of the influence of CG heresy.)
Are you joking? Who cares what district you are a part of?? The SYNOD, of which you are a part, allows this apostasy to continue. Please wake up and shake up those pastors who are firmly grounded in God's Word. Encourage them to stand up and heed the admonition to 'Put on the armour of God'. If God be for you, who can be against you? Even the retired pastors, who can surely see the synod's decline from when they were on active duty, stand up and be heard! Help show where Synod has strayed and how to get back on track. Maybe a current pastor with a church fears some kind of punitive actions, but these retired guys have nothing to lose. God still has a purpose for them in His church and this very well may be it. STAND UP AND BE HEARD!!
>>>Are you joking? Who cares what district you are a part of?? The SYNOD, of which you are a part, allows this apostasy to continue.<<<
No, I think you misunderstood my point. My point was that pastors have no ability to discipline or remove people like Parlow or Kelm who teach and practice false doctrine. They have no power to take any official action, particularly when in another district.
Obviously we can (and do) work unofficially to speak against such things and warn about such things, but all official power belongs to the district president.
So, let's say for example, that a pastor in Kalamazoo supports CG from the pulpit this Sunday. I can send a letter calling him to repentance, but that's about it. I can't make him stop, I can't discipline him, I can't remove him. Only the DP can. And if the DP refuses, then there's nothing I can do about that either. I'm not a member of that district who would be able to vote him out of office. I'm not a delegate to the convention who could bring a motion there. What else would you have me do?
What else would you have me do?
Can you not contact our synod president and inquire as to why this is allowed to go unchecked. Is it possible to go over the head of the DP? I've had questions synod related in the past and emailed Pres. Schroeder directly. He responds quite quickly. Is this an option for you?
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