Minnesota Ablaze! was already promoting Jeske's Time of Generic Grace in December of 2008.
Sample Agreement The Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod Recognized Service Organization
Section 1. Recognized Service Organization
… RSO agrees (a) to foster the mission and ministry of the Synod, (b) to engage in programs in harmony with the Synod and (c) not to act contrary to the doctrines and practices of the Synod …
https://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/Service %20Opportunities/RSO%20Agreement.pdf
Mark Jeske has been double-linked on the WELS.net website (for buying TOGG trinkets, etc) and enjoying donations from WELS members, and yet he never acknowledges his own synod or even Lutherdom.
So now he is pledged to support the work of the LCMS, in his new capacity as the CEO of an RSO.
But, my anonymous minders think he is staying in WELS while promoting the LCMS.
Someone said that Jumpin' Jack Jeske insisted on sermons that made non-Lutherans squirm.
But Mark Jeske gives sermons that make Lutherans squirm in embarrassment.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Kieschnick Strategy in Taking Out Jeske":
What makes Jeske getting RSO with no LCMS clergy on his board even more strange is that Todd Wilken could not get RSO with the LCMS for "Issues, Etc". (See Todd Wilken's comment in the Brothers of John the Steadfast link in the main post).
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#8 by Todd Wilken — September 4, 2009 @ 11:54 am
Funny, we asked the Board for Communication Services to grant Issues, Etc. RSO status back in 2001-02, and were denied.
When we raised the subject again later, KFUO management threatened to fire us if we pursued it any further.
TW
#9 by Rev. Thomas C. Messer — September 4, 2009 @ 12:05 pm
Todd,
Not funny, but sad. But, I mean what you know. :)
Not funny, but sad. But, I mean what you know. :)
#10 by Rev. Thomas C. Messer — September 4, 2009 @ 12:29 pm
"Confessions of a Church Growth Enthusiast will prove to be one of the most significant writings of these latter days of the 20th Century." Gerald B. Kieschnick, President, Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod.
Two points here:
1) That Kieschnick is an ardent proponent of the Satanic Church Growth Movement (CGM) should be no shock to anyone.
2) Everything he has done as President of the LCMS has been consistent with his personal love affair with the CGM. We can argue against PK's positions (indeed, we must), but we can't argue with his consistency. He has done everything in his power to move our synod in the direction he believes it should be heading, and will not apologize for doing so. "Issues, Etc." had to go to make way for those who will promote the agenda PK is pushing ("Time of Grace," for example). This is not an exercise in "conspiracy theorism," but is a simple recognition of the facts. PK is a CGM advocate. Period.
Disclaimer: For those who may be offended at my use of "Satanic" in describing the CGM, please know that I am not claiming that PK is Satanic, but that the movement he so enthusiastically embraces is such. A movement which advocates that the church must treat the Gospel like a product to be marketed and repackaged in a way that is more appealing to the unchurched (consumer) has to be, by definition, of the devil.
Two points here:
1) That Kieschnick is an ardent proponent of the Satanic Church Growth Movement (CGM) should be no shock to anyone.
2) Everything he has done as President of the LCMS has been consistent with his personal love affair with the CGM. We can argue against PK's positions (indeed, we must), but we can't argue with his consistency. He has done everything in his power to move our synod in the direction he believes it should be heading, and will not apologize for doing so. "Issues, Etc." had to go to make way for those who will promote the agenda PK is pushing ("Time of Grace," for example). This is not an exercise in "conspiracy theorism," but is a simple recognition of the facts. PK is a CGM advocate. Period.
Disclaimer: For those who may be offended at my use of "Satanic" in describing the CGM, please know that I am not claiming that PK is Satanic, but that the movement he so enthusiastically embraces is such. A movement which advocates that the church must treat the Gospel like a product to be marketed and repackaged in a way that is more appealing to the unchurched (consumer) has to be, by definition, of the devil.
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Kenneth J. Schmidt has left a new comment on your post "Kieschnick Strategy in Taking Out Jeske":
I hope Jeske leaves WELS. I do, however, feel sorry for the faithful remnant in my former church body, the LCMS. They will have to deal with yet another wannabe Baptist in a position of power. I hope the rest of the snake-handling, holy rollers in Church and Change go with him.
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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Quiche-Nicked Jeske RSO Swears To Promote the LCMS...":
It is deeper than you know. Patterson is flying in on Jeske's coattails also: Jeske_wanna_be
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Did Norma Boeckler draw that picture? That is an instant classic.
"But, my anonymous minders think he is staying in WELS while promoting the LCMS."
Wouldn't WELS have something to say about that?
Why would WELS want to keep a pastor on its roster who is so blatantly claiming affiliation with the LCMS, with which synod the WELS is not in fellowship?
Jeske is a member of WELS by his choice. He should be an honorable man and leave the WELS now that he has voluntarily and publicly chosen to affiliate himself with the LCMS.
It is deeper than you know. Patterson is flying in on Jeske's coattails also: Jeske_wanna_be
Where are the WELS officials to condemn what's going here with Jeske? Are they turning a blind eye or is there concern among them enough to excercise a little church disapline Jeske's way? This is the stuff that should be getting snuffed out if we are to remain that confessional church Pres.Schroeder was talking about in his convention report. I'd like to see him give Jeske and his ilk the boot but surely wouldn't wish them even on the LCMS. Then they could fill their positions with these pastors still awaiting calls. Problems solved.
It is the Links tab on Patterson's site that shows all the relationships.
What tangled webs are woven.
President Schroeder and the WELS must make informed, Christian decisions.
The membership of the WELS must be well informed.
Any action to remove Jeske could be made to appear legalistic.
An honorable man, truly concerned about the sheep and lambs in both synods would leave on his own. He would not act so as to leave the impression that the decision was made by anyone other than himself.
Rev. Mark Jeske, are you an honorable man?
>>I hope Jeske leaves WELS.<<
Don't count on Jeske doing the right thing. He thumbs his nose at such an idea.
It is time to remove the parasite before he hurts more members. Failure to do so makes other WELS leaders just as culpable as Jeske.
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