Monday, February 23, 2009

Thou Shalt Not Steal
Maybe Mequon Should Close Too



Hmm. How am I going to teach that commandment?
The kids have googled my sermon series.
Ski is a follower of Craig Groeschel - from the very liberal Methodist and Disciples of Christ denominations.



Kelm got hired at The Love Shack for his skills in copy and paste.


Ichabodians, tell me you did not see it coming.

Paul Kuske and LPR were doing the Rock and Roll scene (badly) 20 years ago. Now The CORE emerges as a cruder, simpler, more childish version of all previous experiments. WELS is always experimenting with safe sects. In fact, so many pastors experimented with safe sects that they have left the Lutheran Church altogether to join their Babtist and Pentecostal brethren.

But do not be alarmed. You do not have to join another denomination now. You can join one of the WELS Church and Chicanery congregations across the synod. C and C is a non-geographical district managed by Church and Change/Parish Services.

Here is the proof.

Go to The CORE website, which is easy to remember:


http://www.gotocore.com

Look up: What will the pastor talk about this week?

The dates and topics are all lined up.

Starting on February 22nd, there are four on kaleo. I am guessing that Ski was not the best Greek student, since English itself is a foreign language for him. And using Greek in a sermon title is very Junior-year.

Oh wait. I found the exact same set of sermons here:

http://open.lifechurch.tv/series/3445

Week 1 Called to Care
Week 2 Called to Generosity
Week 3 Called to Serve
Week 4 Called to Make Disciples

And another set of The CORE sermons are at the same site:

http://open.lifechurch.tv/series/19

Week 1 The Pain of Loss
Week 2 The Pain of Suffering
Week 3 The Pain of Rejection

The pain series is exactly the same as the website's, in the same order.

Note the FAQs from the website:

General Questions
Q: What is LifeChurch.tv Open?

A: LifeChurch.tv Open is a site where churches can access, download and use creative content for free. It includes much of the creative work that the staff at LifeChurch.tv has done over the past few years and will be updated with new content going forward.

Q: What type of resources are available on this site?

A: The content includes, but is not limited to, message series artwork, themed videos that are used to promote and brand a series (provided in full resolution), message outlines, and layered graphic files.

Q: What does it cost?

A: Absolutely nothing. We do require that you agree to a license agreement (it's free) and that you use the content in a non-commercial manner in an effort to "lead people to become fully devoted followers of Christ." We do not want attribution (our name or brand to be on it). If we want anything it is to hear about how it impacted people in your church or community...please come back to the site and let us know.

Q: Why is LifeChurch.tv making this available for free?

A: We are passionate about changed lives and if there is even a chance that some of our creative content is useful to other churches in a effort to reach people for Christ....we are extremely excited about the opportunity to make it all available.


Q: So I don't have to mention that I got this from LifeChurch.tv?

A: That's right. You can use the content in your church and we actually perfer that you do not give us credit. Basically, you can pretend it's your own.

Q: Can I get it sent to me in on a DVD or CD or something else that I can hold in my hand?

A: No. We are only providing this content throught this website for you to download. It is free, and we are not able to mail or send it to you in another format (even if you were willing to pay us). Sorry if this is an inconvenience, but it is the only way that we can provide it to everyone and still stay focused on the vision that God has called us to.

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Thou Shalt Not StealMaybe Mequon Should Close Too":

Wow. Thanks for the research.

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GJ - I am wondering, "Why waste all that money on The Sausage Factory when the graduates are just copying sermons from the websites of false teachers - without any discipline."

Only recently Kelm gave a paper at Mequon on how to improve seminary education. He is an example of their complete failure.

This Just In - From the Church and Chicanery Grapevine



This is one of the nodes of the Church and Chicanery grapevine.
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District VP Don Patterson organized the trip to see Brother Stetzer at the pan-multi-denominational Emerging Church fest.


Joe Krohn, who is best buds with Patterson, bragged that Doebler is OK with the Conference of Pussycats, that Rock and Roll got another grant.

The grapevine tells me the grant from the Antioch Foundation was not as juicy as applied for. Rock and Roll got $20,000, which was either 20% or only 10% of what they applied for. Doubtless they studied the grantsmanship lessons hard at the last Church and Chicanery conference. But alas, Antioch is not Texas-oriented and everyone is short on cash.

So maybe Joe was providing spin on the Rock and Roll story.

I can never remember the exact URL of Rock and Roll, so I use the original URL, churchfromscratch.net. That still goes automatically to the fancy-dancy website.

Ski's is even fancier, with Flash movies.

Both WELS pastors are copying sermons series from non-Lutherans. But that is not news, is it?

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "This Just In - From the Church and Chicanery Grape...":

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WELS Votes Oscars for Worst New Mission...Ever



The CORE goes multi-Oscar in WELS. Read below.


Anonymous said...
Some say spelling and grammar are no longer relevant...maybe Reverend Ski really is in touch.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

If WELS allows this place to continue as one of their 'churches', I believe that is going to be the last straw for me and my family. I wouldn't have to travel 20 miles to my nearest WELS church. There's an Assembly of God just down the street and I can go there and save the gas. I am watching this place and mostly Synod's reaction to it very closely. It's going to tell us all if they are serious about cleaning their house or just turning it over to the squatters.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

The man in love with false teachers of all kinds. At the same time, he despises orthodox teachers. (Deutschlander was presenting at the pastors' conference for which Ski commented: "Ugh!" Apparently skipping Deutschlander to go to sit at the feet of a heretic wasn't enough. Now he has to say "ugh" to Deutschlander's presentations, too.) He loves the worship and methods devised by false teachers who do not know or understand the means of grace. He fawns over their writings. So Why should I be stupid enough to believe that Ski is orthodox? Does he rilly thinck everywon else is as stewpid as he is?


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

"Ugh! Pastor's conference."

Ugh! THE CORE.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

-How can he fit his Enthusiastic church into the parameters of the WELS-

The question should be WHY would he want to? Why not go find whatever flavor of church wants this stuff and blend in over there?


Norman Teigen has left a new comment on your post "WELS Church and Change Mission Check-List":


I thought that this was funny. Of course, if my mug were posted I probably wouldn't think it so funny. You have probably found a few [new?] career, that of satirist.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

this guy has got to go! reminds me of a clock on my wall...cuckcoo, cuckcoo


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

Hey Ski... if you want to 'do church' at your imax theater.. knock your socks off, Ski! No ushers to stop you from anything you want to do on your so-called alter or aisles. You'll answer for this abomination some day. i just hope and pray you're not getting a single penny of the rank and file's hard-earned offerings.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

He seems proud of his friends outside the WELS fellowship. Wonder when the last time he talked to President Schroeder about this project and got his thoughts on it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of his fellow WELS pastors must be shaking their collective heads at this. You know, maybe it's not a bad idea to close MLS afterall. If this is the kind of pastors they're churning out over there, I say shut it down! How can he fit his Enthusiastic church into the parameters of the WELS. Isn't there a Baptist or Pentecostal church somewhere that can take this clown off our hands??


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

I don't think Reverend Ski is a suitable representation of either the graduates of MLS nor of the residents of his former home--the Michigan District.

The only thing more Northern Wisconsin than his doctrines and practice is his spelling.

This is what happens when a kid gets an associate pastor call to St. Marcus.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

Anon @ 10:54 wrote:

"Isn't there a Baptist or Pentecostal church somewhere that can take this clown off our hands??"
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They took him off the hands of St. Peter's for many Sundays before The CORE was finished :-)


Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

I wonder if all you WELS people commenting on this blog have addressed "Ski" porsonally (sic) about his unionism. If you haven't, you have no business talking about it on this rag.



Matthew 18 variation, revealing no knowledge at all about Matthew 18 in the Large Catechism, not to mention what the LC says about the Eighth Commandment and published false doctrine.


Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Whoopy-Worship: Best Learned at Non-Denominational...":

Anon @ 1:37PM wrote
I wonder if all you WELS people commenting on this blog have addressed "Ski" porsonally about his unionism. If you haven't, you have no business talking about it on this rag.
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I have. To no avail. Now are you going to weigh in on the matter or is a misapplication of the 8th commandment all you have to offer?


Anonymouse has left a new comment on your post "WELS Votes Oscars for Worst New Mission...Ever":

You are misrepresenting what the Large Catechism is saying about the 8th Commandment, Greg, and that's what condemns you! Yes, public offense should be corrected publicly, but IT HAS TO BE MADE TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS COMMITTING THE OFFENSE. You have no idea if Ski is reading your rag or not. If I were to start a gossip blog and talk to everyone about Greg Jackson and his past public sins (yes, you do have some, and you know it), but you didn't read my blog--that would not be public admonition. That would be gossip and a breaking of the 8th Commandment. The shoe fits--are you going to put it on before it's too late?

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GJ - Actually, Mouse, or Joe, I do know he is reading it. He tweated his pals about someone who wrote about him and asked him to be a friend on Facebook. That dude could only be me. You are certainly getting the Large Catechism wrong. Luther's point was that he did not have to sit down with the Antichrist, hold his hand, and tell him why he was wrong. What is published can be addressed publicly, and Ski just cannot stop blabbing in public. Ski is doing WELS a favor, because he says openly what the rest of Church and Chicanery says secretly.

And by the way, a group of pastors went to see Kelm about his false doctrine. Kelm made it very clear he was not moving off his Deformed stance. I published Church and Chicanery list-serve material showing that Kelm would not even listen to the kindest possible words, the pleading requests, of fellow pastors about the Leonard Sweet invitation. In fact, he announced he would no longer answer any communication about Sweet.

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The Indicators - Do I Have the Right Website?



The Indicators seem to be lapsed South Babtists.


On You Tube.


Ski and Company bragged ton Twitter hat The Indicators went back to Kentucky after performing for The CORE.

Slow Monday. The Indicators head back to KY and some much needed rest for The CORE
staff.


Is this the group?

I have linked that website, but I am not sure it is the right one. I do not want to copy the content. Please prove me wrong, someone.

A doctor of divinity has informed me that my googled guess was correct:

Leaving the ski's hands down the best people in the world. We love them and the copious amounts of cheese we just purchased!
about 4 hours ago from twitterrific

watching the oscars 4 hours late...appleton, wi style. after kicking off the core in style. the core a church you actually want to go to.
about 15 hours ago from web


The three (3) followers are:

pastorski


kstrandlund


DCFF / Derby City Film Fest



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    God is working around here: The Core, St. Matthew, in my home, my personal life, my family, the next few weeks God is going to something big
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    Jammin' for the Lamb at St Peters this weekend - can't wait!
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    Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The Indicators - Do I Have the Right Website?":

    Only a legalist would take offense that these folks might have been at The Core. Heaven forbid they might hear the Word and be saved. Thankfully Christ did not take such a stance. He frequently supped with tax collectors and all kinds of characters of ill repute.

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    GJ - Christ did not allow people to mock the Word of God. He tossed the money-changers from the Temple area And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise. KJV John 2:16

    And Paul -

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