Wiscnews
Following a meeting last Sunday in which male members of St. John's Lutheran Church voted narrowly to fire St. John's School Principal John Hartwig, some parents are planning to remove their children from the school, even as Hartwig himself urges families to stand by St. John's.
Media coverage of the decision, following accusations by church leadership that Hartwig had distributed materials questioning Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod doctrine about women's role in the church, has focused in part on the church's decision to exclude women from both speaking and voting at the meeting.
That decision, and the doctrine on which it was based, is one of the main reasons parent Jennifer Hopper says she has enrolled her daughter Kyla, a second-grader who has attended St. John's since kindergarten, in the Baraboo School District.
"If they didn't want our opinion on our child's education ... then they didn't need our money either," Hopper said. "She'll be starting at North Freedom as soon as spring break is over."
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GJ - I questioned the WELSian promotion of adulterous pastors and false doctrine, and they struck back hard.
At the moment there are several WELS positions on women usurping authority:
A. Women already serve as pastors and no one does anything about it.
B. Women teach men at Mary Lou College and at various WELS events dominated by Church and Change leaders.
C. The W/ELS boards of doctrine are not man enough to reject women consecrating Holy Communion.
The feminist crowd will take care of Hartwig, but that will not make the newspapers.
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B. Women teach men at Mary Lou College
So? As long as it's not teaching a religion course, what exactly is wrong with this? Is having a woman teach an early childhood education course really out of the ordinary? Would you rather a balding, cranky, ill-qualified 60-something man teach early childhood education? How is a woman teaching a course like early childhood, math, phy ed, etc. any different than a teacher in a WELS grade school teaching students a subject?
With tongue firmly planted in cheek, I ask the rhetorical question - what is the big deal anyway? All of this is adiaphoron anyways. I was at a voters' meeting where a $2.5 million expansion(without cost overruns) was voted upon. Women were not allowed to vote, but they sure were allowed to speak. And speak they did. I witnessed the Oprah-fication of the church that day. The women there did not need to the right to vote. They were so tearful and mouthy that they laid a big guilt trip on the shoulders of the men who could vote. The one man who did publicly oppose it was tagged teamed by the senior pastor and the stewardship chairman after the meeting. The voters who did approve it did so out of fear and possible retribution. Pardon my sexist slant, but it appears that so many of the alpha babes think that congregational polity is a participatory democracy. Then, we have "Mad Jack" Cascione......
I believe the point about Pastor GJ was making about MLC was taken out of context.(some-what) Women can teach men at a teachers college. Remember the old NWC was the pre-Sem. School, and now those men,for the most part, attend MLC. Pastor Jackson is NOT against women teaching men. I agree that the ladies at St. John's should have been allowed to have their questions read or voices heard. However, the actual voting should be the males. When we as women take over the men's job, then where is their head-ship that was appointed by God? Perhaps Mr. Hartwig is a professinal and nice person. Maybe the people, who voted for the firing, have a closeness to Mr. Hartwig. There is also some history concerning Mr. Hartwig that pre-dates the latest incident. The deconesses and womens leadership movement is in with the C&C crowd. Look it up and it is plain as day!
In Christ,
from WELS church lady(not teaching, just suggesting!)
So much for unified theology and doctrine in WELS. You take your chances with the church that you decide to attend.
Sheer inconsistency of application and practice of doctrine! Only the anointed ones may deviate and get by with it. Take Ski and Jeske as examples.
I agree whole-heartedly, sadoc. I'm still waiting to hear the verdict from WELS leadership on how Jeske can be affiliated with LC-MS and WELS at the same time.
Wistex, Satan sanctions it.
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