Monday, March 8, 2010

Good Discussion on Extra Nos



Sasse, not to be confused with Sassy.
Fuller grads need some extra help in theology.


Extra Nos has a good discussion on Universal Objective Justification. LP Cruz is good at sorting out arguments because he comes from a non-Lutheran background. He is analytical, fair, and patient.

Many Lutheran clergy think they know non-Lutheran doctrine because they remember a few slogans from their MDiv classes. Since they repeat these slogans to one another, they think they know Protestant doctrine.

I thought WELS was bad with their repeat-after-me doctrinal classes, but Missouri is just as bad. Making no intellectual progress, 20 years after graduation, is nothing to brag about.

This verse alone defeats UOJ:

KJV John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

The UOJ Stormtroopers would have us believe that everyone in the world is justified, forgiven, absolved. How can the wrath of God remain on those who are justified, forgiven, and absolved?


What keeps a UOJ Stormtrooper from infidelity? Nothing.
He is already forgiven.

2 comments:

bruce-church said...

Glad to see Ichabod is taking up the election issue, and not just the UOJ issue.

Even though plenty of people think that the UOJ stance is questionable, they presume that Walther and Pieper were dead right on the election issue. However, there are some other possibilities they ought to consider and try to rule out, if they can, namely:
1) The Synodical Conference is wrong and the General Synod was right.
2) Both are wrong and don't hold to the true Confessional Lutheran position.

In either of the above possible scenarios, the Synodical Conference is wrong.

Brett Meyer said...

Bruce I see UOJ playing a huge role in the Synod views concerning the doctrine of Election. What specifically is your contention?