Friday, March 19, 2010

Jeske's Name - 14 Times,
Jesus' Name - Once:
Jeske's Face - Thrice,
Jesus' Face - Zero!


Counted by a WELS layman.


John has left a new comment on your post "Jeske's Name - 14 Times, Jesus' Name - Once:Jeske'...":

Jeske makes an effort to do what?

His TV program is nothing more than a few couple of minute snippet teasers from a DVD or series of DVD's that one must purchase from Time of Grace in order to get the complete class/series.

If this man was truly interested in bringing folks into the fold, he would encourage his watchers to seek out the closest WELS pastor/congregation for more information. He does not do this.

I haven't watched his program for some time. He never acknowledged on his program that he was a Lutheran pastor in all the times that I did watch. Does he continue to deny that he is a Lutheran pastor?

6 comments:

bruce-church said...

Link to Jeskeland:
http://www.timeofgrace.org/index.php

viewpoint said...

While Jeske has plenty of shortcomings, at least he makes an effort – unlike so many of his peers. WELS certainly needs more initiative from its pastors, and I am not talking about busy work or finding ways to look busy.

John said...

Jeske makes an effort to do what?

His TV program is nothing more than a few couple of minute snippet teasers from a DVD or series of DVD's that one must purchase from Time of Grace in order to get the complete class/series.

If this man was truly interested in bringing folks into the fold, he would encourage his watchers to seek out the closest WELS pastor/congregation for more information. He does not do this.

I haven't watched his program for some time. He never acknowledged on his program that he was a Lutheran pastor in all the times that I did watch. Does he continue to deny that he is a Lutheran pastor?

sadoc said...

John, the typical WELS pastor does not even do that much outreach.

wistex said...

"the typical WELS pastor does not even do that much outreach"

Yet another wildly irresponsible and unsubstantiated statement.

sadoc, what, in your view, constitutes "enough" outreach?

John said...

sadoc,

My point is that what Time of Grace does can hardly be called outreach. It does nothing to guide folks to any resource other than Time of Grace.

Is the sacrament of Holy Baptism available at Time of Grace? It is not.

Is the sacrament of the Lord's Supper available at Time of Grace? It is not.

Does Time of Grace guide folks to resources in their area where they can be properly instructed/catechized? It does not.

These facts lead this layman to believe that Time of Grace exists only to perpetuate Time of Grace.

As far as your comment about the typical WELS pastor not doing much outreach:

I want the shepherd called to tend the flock of which I am a member to do exactly that, first and foremost.

So what if a great shepherd is not so hot at outreach? Maybe the congregation needs to be sure that it has a great evangelism committee/board in place.